adam277:
https://youtu.be/iwt1U4yIkBQPeter sums it up perfectly. Why vote for people you do not like?
I mean the current state of affairs are frankly tragic. I consider myself more right wing now… But I would vote for Corbyn over Starmer or Sunak any day.
Because even though I disagree with his politics… He believes in them… As messed up as that sounds… I want a politician that believes in what they are saying.
Corbyn wants a socialist country for sure and he has barely changed message in the past 30-40 years. What does Starmer want? [zb] knows. What does Sunak want… well whatever keeps him in power.But I am very bitter when it comes to politics. My first vote was around the early 2010s. It was for the Lib dems because they promised to scrap university fees. At the time it was super important to me… We all know how that turned out.
But on the brexit point. The failure of brexit lies with the politicians. The MPs wanted full control of every single law. 99.99% just wanted control of the borders. We could of had a good deal with the EU and kept the borders under control… Yea, would of been a big ask to try and keep access to the single market without open borders but a deal was there to be mad.
We are in a worse spot now thanks to the tory party. The opportunity of brexit is only being used to benefit the wealthy.Should we rejoin the EU though? No of course not. Not that they would take us back in anyway. A lot of EU countries benefited when we left the EU why would they let us back in and risk that? Germany might want us back in and a few others but largely it will be a long drawn out process that is not worth the hassle we need to move on.
Maybe Starmer can strike some deal but no doubt it will be a [zb] deal. So either way we are screwed no matter who is in power.to paraphrase peter again
Voting legitimizes the voting system and those who gain power, by voting you are giving power and legitmacy to whoever wins the election.
We always had control of our borders. We were not in Schengen and under EU rules anyone from another EU country not finding work within 3 months could be sent home. Under the Dublin agreement we had the ability to send some asylum seekers back to other EU countries without hearing their claim. Our Government chose not to implement control for reasons known to them.
Brexit has only benefitted the disaster capitalists and those not wanting their tax affairs to be examined. The EU proposed implementing Tax transparency laws in 2020 and the city ran scared!