Job!

Well hello all,

Been offered Monday to Thursday driving for Stowbart out of Newport, asked about doing what and it’s trunking out of the Hasbro building for Asda to stores or hubs.

Anyone here doing the same thing that can pass on tips.

Thanks all.

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Well hello all,

Been offered Monday to Thursday driving for Stowbart out of Newport, asked about doing what and it’s trunking out of the Hasbro building for Asda to stores or hubs.

Anyone here doing the same thing that can pass on tips.

Thanks all.

No playing with the toys :exclamation: :laughing: :laughing:

Apart from the toys lol.

ROG:

Sattalk:
Well hello all,

Been offered Monday to Thursday driving for Stowbart out of Newport, asked about doing what and it’s trunking out of the Hasbro building for Asda to stores or hubs.

Anyone here doing the same thing that can pass on tips.

Thanks all.

No playing with the toys :exclamation: :laughing: :laughing:

Do you get more than minimum wage from Stobarts?

Hello,
I have not yet started the process to get the license but I would like to do trunking as it sounds like the best option for a beginner. I would like to hear from any drivers that have done this type of thing.
Best of luck with the job!

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Just an update on the above.

I didn’t last long with Stowbarts, I was diagnosed with sleep apnea and as soon as their transport manager heard this “Your still in probation, sorry bye”.

Nice guy.

But now after reading up on this what he did was discrimination.

Is it medically diagnosed obstructive sleep apnoea?
If so, that’s not discriminatory:
Once a diagnosis of OSA is confirmed, the driver must stop driving and must notify the DVLA.
commercialmotor.com/news/co … tting-help

More technically, see page 108 of the document located at
gov.uk/government/publicati … fessionals

Well because I told the transport manager I was diagnosed with it and he said bye bye that in my mind is discriminatory against myself due to sleep apnea.

Why not wait and let the process go through its motions and then decide.

Now I’m of the opinion that if I mention this to new employers my job prospects are none existent and if I keep it to myself and they find out I could get the sack.

So you tell me why it isn’t discrimination?

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Well because I told the transport manager I was diagnosed with it and he said bye bye that in my mind is discriminatory against myself due to sleep apnea.

Why not wait and let the process go through its motions and then decide.

Now I’m of the opinion that if I mention this to new employers my job prospects are none existent and if I keep it to myself and they find out I could get the sack.

So you tell me why it isn’t discrimination?

On a probationary period an employer can get rid of you for virtually no reason with virtually no come back on them.

Discrimination

the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of ethnicity, age, ■■■, or disability

OSA on its own is not classed as a disability, however a person could be entitled to disability benefits dependent on a number of factors which may mean it COULD be classed as a disability and therefore a person would be entitled to disability benefits like PIP etc. Bit again you were on a probationary period and such would have no case.

You say you have been diagnosed with sleep apnoea, which means you cannot fulfill your role as a driver the job you applied for and were taken on for.

A company can of course offer to give a driver other duties in this scenario but are under no obligation to do so, or they can make you go on sick leave, which may be company sick pay or only SSP, until such a time as you can fulfill your duties again.

It is your responsibility to ensure you are fit to drive medically wise, no one else’s. Sleep apnoea is a very dangerous condition for yourself and for anyone else on the roads, it really is as simple as that. Would you want to knowingly risk falling asleep at the wheel of a truck and possibly kill someone/yourself and then end up in prison for it?

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Now I’m of the opinion that if I mention this to new employers my job prospects are none existent and if I keep it to myself and they find out I could get the sack.

Gov:
Excessive sleepiness means that you have had difficulty concentrating and have found yourself falling asleep - for example while at work, watching television or when driving.

You must tell DVLA if you have:

confirmed moderate or severe obstructive sleep apnoea syndrome (OSAS), with excessive sleepiness

either narcolepsy or cataplexy, or both

any other sleep condition that has caused excessive sleepiness for at least 3 months - including suspected or confirmed mild OSAS

You must not drive until you’re free from excessive sleepiness or until your symptoms are under control and you’re strictly following any necessary treatment

You must not drive and certainly must not take a driving job from a prospective employer until the situation is under control and being managed adequately.

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Now I’m of the opinion that if I mention this to new employers my job prospects are none existent and if I keep it to myself and they find out I could get the sack.

So you tell me why it isn’t discrimination?

Totally troll-tastic, but I’ll play along as if it wasn’t obvious :unamused:

It would be entirely correct for an employer to (i) not offer a job or (ii) to sack someone who lied about a health condition. How this towrag did not get sent down is beyond me
ibtimes.co.uk/glasgow-bin-l … an-1614691

So what you’re saying in your opinions is that anyone with sleep apnea should not drive at all end of story?

My licence with all categories are valid and issued by DVLA and they have no issues with it.
My results are all under control so no issues with that.
I wear a mask at night and have done so every night since I’ve had the machine and will do so with no issues.

So the only issue I see is being classed as a danger in other peoples opinions to other road users regardless of what the DVLA say and my specialist.

So I might as well give up my current driving job, give up my car and just vegetate.

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So the only issue I see is being classed as a danger in other peoples opinions to other road users regardless of what the DVLA say and my specialist.

Simple solution to that if its not a safety issue = TELL NOBODY :bulb: :question:

Your argument is remarkably similar in tone to the one about a year ago where someone was claiming they could take “medical cannabis” and be an HGV driver :unamused:

This isn’t about opinions, it’s about “the rules”, including this
gov.uk/government/publicati … fessionals

HGV licence categories can be invalidated by subsequent health developments, so what is written on a licence is only part of the picture. Categories C and C+E can be, and often are, suspended by the TC and DVLA on a variety of health grounds they believe increase the dangers on the road, as listed in the pdf found at the link above.

EDIT: However, if you have informed the DVLA and have something in writing from them, that might be different. But you didn’t say this at the start of the thread, simply having the entitlements visible on the licence isn’t enough.

Lol I can’t do that I’m to bloody honest for my own good, hence why I’m going through the correct procedure.

My 12 months review ain’t up until June 23 and I’m well WAY under the minimum figures it’s just bloody annoying that I feel targeted.

It’s a waiting game now and all happy as Larry all down hill from here.

ROG:

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So the only issue I see is being classed as a danger in other peoples opinions to other road users regardless of what the DVLA say and my specialist.

Simple solution to that if its not a safety issue = TELL NOBODY :bulb: :question:

Sorry to hear of your condition, but glad it is being managed effectively.

I know you can’t apply for unfair dismissal without 2 years service. If thinking about a discrimination claim, this doesn’t have the 2 years service caveat, however you haven’t identified a protected characteristic as far as I can see.

As I understand you feel the transport manager may have taken a prejudiced decision, but as is so often the case we sometimes find that what gets said on the forum isn’t quite what actually happened or important details are left out. It is difficult to comment without the full details, including what was declared on forms, if the medical situation was known about and what the company policy is.

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Well because I told the transport manager I was diagnosed with it and he said bye bye that in my mind is discriminatory against myself due to sleep apnea.

Why not wait and let the process go through its motions and then decide.

Now I’m of the opinion that if I mention this to new employers my job prospects are none existent and if I keep it to myself and they find out I could get the sack.

So you tell me why it isn’t discrimination?

On a probationary period an employer can get rid of you for virtually no reason with virtually no come back on them.

Discrimination

the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of ethnicity, age, ■■■, or disability

OSA on its own is not classed as a disability, however a person could be entitled to disability benefits dependent on a number of factors which may mean it COULD be classed as a disability and therefore a person would be entitled to disability benefits like PIP etc. Bit again you were on a probationary period and such would have no case.

You say you have been diagnosed with sleep apnoea, which means you cannot fulfill your role as a driver the job you applied for and were taken on for.

A company can of course offer to give a driver other duties in this scenario but are under no obligation to do so, or they can make you go on sick leave, which may be company sick pay or only SSP, until such a time as you can fulfill your duties again.

It is your responsibility to ensure you are fit to drive medically wise, no one else’s. Sleep apnoea is a very dangerous condition for yourself and for anyone else on the roads, it really is as simple as that. Would you want to knowingly risk falling asleep at the wheel of a truck and possibly kill someone/yourself and then end up in prison for it?

Well here’s your first tip right here. Watch out for yourself. In a company full of people covering their own rears. Cover your own too.
That goes for any job though and hopefully you have experience of big companies making sure they are not culpable in any circumstances.