Euro Drivers Info Point

[SHYTOT]

Quick Q for you guys what weight fire extingisher is required to travel througout europe

[jimti]

I don't know if there is a set size, all of mine were different, but all were big enough to be able to hit an intruder round the head with

[brit pete]

If carrying ADR--HAZ goods 2 X 6Kg ones are required
if you carry no ADR--HAZ goods a smaller one normally
a 3kg type, better is the 2 X 6kg AS THEY CAN HELP ADVERT
a small fire turning into a raging bonfire,

[dieseldave]

If carrying ADR--HAZ goods 2 X 6Kg ones are required

Sorry Pete, but the small part I've quoted from your info isn't quite correct.

ADR's requirements for fire-extinguishers depend on the permitted GVW of the vehicle. (ADR 8.1.4)

[brit pete]

okay DD i admit I was only describing for vehicles over

7.5tn is this any better
ADR para 8.1.4 concerns fire extinguishers. The table below sets out a summary of the minimum requirements. Note that dry powder extinguishers are specified because it is known that they are suitable for tackling fires of class A (solids such as wood, paper etc), class B (fires involving liquids) and class C (fires involving gases).
Vehicle (max permissible mass) Minimum dry powder fire extinguisher provision
Up to 3.5 t 2kg for cab
plus 2 kg

vehicles
over 3.5 t and up to 7.5 te 2 kg for cab
Total 8 kg (usually one 6 kg but other provision is acceptable as long as there is one 6 kg)

vehicles
Over 7.5 te 2 kg for cab
Total 12 kg (including at least one 6 kg)

and this little addition
Any vehicle carrying dangerous goods under the” small load” limit or carrying only infectious substances


all this was taken from this LINK


ME I ACT LIKE A BOY SCOUT ; be prepared better too much as not enough,,

[SHYTOT]

But what about non hazardous freight

[dieseldave]

okay DD i admit I was only describing for vehicles over

7.5tn is this any better
ADR para 8.1.4 concerns fire extinguishers. The table below sets out a summary of the minimum requirements. Note that dry powder extinguishers are specified because it is known that they are suitable for tackling fires of class A (solids such as wood, paper etc), class B (fires involving liquids) and class C (fires involving gases).
Vehicle (max permissible mass) Minimum dry powder fire extinguisher provision
Up to 3.5 t 2kg for cab
plus 2 kg

vehicles
over 3.5 t and up to 7.5 te 2 kg for cab
Total 8 kg (usually one 6 kg but other provision is acceptable as long as there is one 6 kg)

vehicles
Over 7.5 te 2 kg for cab
Total 12 kg (including at least one 6 kg)

and this little addition
Any vehicle carrying dangerous goods under the” small load” limit or carrying only infectious substances


all this was taken from this LINK


ME I ACT LIKE A BOY SCOUT ; be prepared better too much as not enough,,

Hi Pete,
That's spot-on now mate.

I can also tell you that the fire extinguisher requirements aren't going to change once ADR 2011 comes into force, so we'll be carrying on with what you've quoted in the link for at least the next two years.

[Simon]

But what about non hazardous freight

I don't think there is a REQUIREMENT under the law to carry a fire extinguisher in the UK, BUT a 2kg powder extinguisher in the cab, mounted securely, accessible and where it cannot be accidentally be let off, would be a sensible thing to carry. It could easily save your life or someone else's.
These small extinguishers are only to put out small fires inside your cab.
Don't try and put out a tyre fire with it, you'll be wasting your time.
Don't try and put out a load fire with it, thats what the fire brigade is for (and GIT insurance).
If you look in the back and notice some small flames, close the doors to try and limit air from getting in (almost certainly pointless, but why give the fire free access to oxygen?) and call out the fire brigade.

By the time you get to your cab, collect your extinguisher, carry it round to the back, open a door, set off your extinguisher and point it at the fire, the fire will be so big you may as well just pee into the wind. Use the time to phone for help, clear your gear out of your cab and tell everyone else to clear off sharpish (not necessarily in that order).

[brit pete]

TYRE--TREAD PROFILE


PLEASE read the link it is worth it as some country's have

a deeper profile limit than you may know of,TYRE--TREAD

[SHYTOT]

Lets try again is a fire extinguisher required to transport non haz goods throughout Europe?
if so what is the minimum weight required?

[dieseldave]

Lets try again is a fire extinguisher required to transport non haz goods throughout Europe?
if so what is the minimum weight required?

Hi SHYTOT,

IMHO, Simon has answered your question, and the only thing I can add to that is that I'm not aware of any other actual legal requirements for fire-extinguishers in any other country.

To my way of thinking, it might be an idea to have a 2kg powder extinguisher on board, on the basis that it's judged as being capable of putting out a fire in the cab or engine of a vehicle.

[SHYTOT]

Dieseldave Simons answer said IN THE UK my question was throughout Europe not just the UK

[brit pete]

shytot i give you a answer its carry one why because it
MAY save your life or some one elses , I have looked but
can not find at present a list, however some country's have
it as Law for cars and no remark is made about Trucks,
nearly every one in commercial transport who likes to
be safe than sorry has one in the cab, okay some one would
say its money out the window,but The insurance company would say
well done, may keep the premium down when you have a fire,,

[SHYTOT]

brit pete your answer started with ADR 8.1.4 i was not asking about ADR regs.
My question was are there any countries in Europe that require trucks to carry a fire extinguisher
if so what weight, but from reading your answers it would appear they are not required as for carrying an extinguisher for the sake of it no way if its law we do it, if not we dont, as for hitting someone over the head no we dont do that either, and if one of our trucks caught fire our drivers attitude would be like 99% of employed drivers (**** it let it burn)

[brit pete]

well Norway is one country that says a fire extinguisher
is required, Denmark,Croatia Sweden are others I am trying to find
a link that will show all of the country,s in one,
Hope this helps

[dieseldave]

Dieseldave Simons answer said IN THE UK my question was throughout Europe not just the UK

Hi SHYTOT,

Sorry mate, but I did mention that I wasn't aware of the requirements in other countries just above, because I realised that you meant 'abroad.'

[brit pete]

Here is another LINK which will be handy for those
using the AUSTRIAN-MOTORWAYS

[brit pete]

This is a link for those who are interested in the use of anti-skid matting
when securing your load on the trailer .
Anti-Skid matting

[brit pete]

here is some sites which will help for Slovinia

LINK

LINK-2

LINK-3

LINK-4

LINK-5 TO THE POLICE;

LINK-6

LINK-7

[brit pete]

ROAD CHARGES NOW to be charged in POLAND
please read the following
Have just been given this site below from the German site I use please read all those
who go to or through POLAND it may effect you ,,,

Here is the LINK
it is very informative and is in ENGLISH so be warned
as fines will be raised against those who do not
complies with the Road charges ,

[brit pete]

this link below is in ENGLISH and will be a great help to all those who TRANSIT
or travel in the RHUR--POTT AREA ;
RUHR-PIOLT

[Simon]

I found it and it can be really useful:
http://truckmapa.wagaciezka.com/

On the right you have check box, check the boxes to show:
Drogi krajowe 11,5 tony/oÅ› - National roads with 11,5 tons axleweight permitted.
Drogi krajowe 10 ton/oÅ› - National roads with 10 tons axleweight permitted
Drogi wojewódzkie 10 ton/oś - Departamental with 10 tons axleweight permitted
Drogi krajowe 8 ton/oÅ› - National roads with 8 tons axleweigt permitted
Drogi z ograniczeniami - Roads with local limits
Mosty z ograniczeniami - Bridges with limits.

On all other roads max 8 tons axleweight is permitted, unless signposted otherwise.

Do we have something like that for UK?

[orys]

ROAD CHARGES NOW to be charged in POLAND
please read the following
Have just been given this site below from the German site I use please read all those
who go to or through POLAND it may effect you ,,,

Here is the LINK
it is very informative and is in ENGLISH so be warned
as fines will be raised against those who do not
complies with the Road charges ,

There is also the issue that the MAUT system seems to be faulty, and sometimes it does not inform you that you run out of money and should top it up. If that happens, you have to pay penalty for every gate you were passing, and to appeal from that it's a bloody menace. Of course the autorithies claim everything is all right, but almost every week there is a case of someone having to pays 100 000s of zlotys penalty... So be careful and make sure you have always enough money on your box.

[Ianham]

Hi, I've just done my first trip over the water. When I got off the ferry I wasn't sure if I should alter the time on the tacho to local time? My mate said to leave it on uk time, but I didn't think that was right. Any advice is gratefully awaited. Cheers.

[orys]

I think under the skin it operates at the same universal time anyway, so altering woudl only changing it for your reference... I think you don't have to. But I stand to be corrected.

[Ianham]

Orys, Sorry I forgot to say I'm still on the analogue charts. I don't know if that makes a difference.

[orys]

If you change time on the tacho, you will be one hour of rest short... You woudl then have to make notes on the charts... I would leave it on UK time.

[Simon]

Hi, I've just done my first trip over the water. When I got off the ferry I wasn't sure if I should alter the time on the tacho to local time? My mate said to leave it on uk time, but I didn't think that was right. Any advice is gratefully awaited. Cheers.

Analogue tachographs ALWAYS stay on home country time. Look in GV262 for official confirmation. Your mate was right.
In winter it should be set to GMT, in summer BST.

Digital tachographs always stay on UTC (which is the same as GMT for ordinary folks like us).
This is the time which will be printed on any printouts and is the internal time of your digi-tacho.
You can alter the displayed time to show BST or ECT if you like. When you do, there is a large black spot next to the time on your tacho display. If it's set to display GMT there is no black spot.

[Silverwolve]

New Driving Bans Europe and other Infos 2014:

Here is a Calender with driving bans for France und Italy inclusive all driving ban times
http://www.tunnelmb.net/v3.0/pdf/Calendario-2014_GB-DE.pdf

other Informations for France with driving bans in the PDF :
http://www.bison-fute.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/EN_12015-1_depliant_interdiction2014_6P_08-01_Pour_BAT.pdf
http://www.bison-fute.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/Brochure_vehicules-lourds_2014.pdf

Driving Bans Austria 2014:

The most driving bans are the same than the last year.Only a few points are plus.

New truck driving bans in Austria Austria is close more streets for trucks.


From 1 April, bans apply to heavy traffic over 3. 5 tonnes in Upper Austria and Salzburg's Salzkammergut region.
From 1 April, bans apply Salzkammergut in the Upper Austria and Salzburg for the heavy transport over 3. 5 tons, say the truck traffic. The basis for the bans is an opinion, that indicates that the truck traffic over the Pötschenpass and Wolfgang Lake Road has been disproportionately since 2007.

The Salzkammergut road (B145) between Bad Goisern and the Pötschenhöhe is a driving ban for motor vehicles over 3. 5 tonnes. The Hallstatt road (L 547) over the Koppen pass will be blocked as well for the transit of trucks. Although the L 547 is not suitable for heavy traffic, the team could try however, to use the road, dodging reportedly on the part of the authorities.

In the Federal State of Salzburg, bans also apply to truck on the Wolfgangsee Highway between Koppl and Strobl and IM Ennstal between old market and Mandling from 1 April. A geographic area within the target and source traffic is intended to ensure that the regional traffic is not cut off. Immediately at the beginning of the zones notice boards indicate the prohibitions, as well on the highways in the area of the relevant slopes in the Salzkammergut.

In the first weeks of the ban controlled very intensively, to bring the scheme quickly into the consciousness of the truck driver, warned the State Governments.
Thats a Info by a big trucker Newspaper in Germany.

New driving bans at the Felbertauerntunnel in Austria :
By 12. 12. 2013 a new regulation - was adopted by the Bezirkshauptmannschaft Lienz valid following content to 25. 04. 2014 -: 1. Allgemeines ban on vehicles over 27t GVW 2. Fahrverbot for cars with trailer 3. Fahrverbot for trucks with a total length of more than 12 m 4. Fahrverbot for buses with a total length of more than 12. 30 meters 5. Fahrverbot for bicycles and motor bikes on the spare road
http://www.felbertauernstrasse.com/de/
http://www.felbertauernstrasse.com/images/Neue_Verordnung_Winterregelung.pdf

Here is a page where you can calculate a route in Austria and you can see if there are driving bans on your route:
http://lkwfahrverbot.wkoratgeber.at/

Mauttariffs Skandinavia:
Bridge Tolls Danmark/Sweden http://www.storebaelt.dk/english and http://de.oresundsbron.com/page/977

Street and Bridgetolls in Norway: http://easygo.com/en/location/norway

Driving bans Greece:
http://www.aisoe.at/index.php?id=35&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=239&cHash=c93d6b84f2d0f24978abdd0ecbced22e

https://www.wko.at/Content.Node/service/aussenwirtschaft/gr/Wochenend_Fahrverbote_2014_.pdf

Driving bans Turkey:

Truck driving bans apply regardless of the total weight of all Sun - and holidays, as well as at the beginning and end of the longer-lasting religious holidays (z. B on the occasion of Ramadan Festival) in the period from 7: 00 until 10: 00 and from 16: 00 until 10: 00.

Holidays: 1. Januar,23. April, 1 + May 19, 8th 10th August (Festival of breaking the fast), 30th, 19. September, 15-18 October (feast of sacrifice), 28th (half-day) and 29th October the weekly day of rest is Sonntag. Feiertage that fall on a day of rest, are made up mostly. A Saturday, follows the holidays this Saturday is a holiday.

The bans apply z. B on the E5 between Edirne and Istanbul from 7: 00 until 10: 00 and in the opposite direction from 16: 00 until 10: 00 on various sections of major roads.
-Rules for transport of dangerous goods: vehicles with dangerous goods (except ADR - classes 1 and 2) are allowed only the 2. Bosporus-bridge "Fatih Sultan Mehmet" (FSM) and happen only in the Knovoi and accompanied by between 2: 00 and 6: 00. The old Bosphorus Bridge can be not used, however, generally by truck.

-Local traffic restrictions: in the period from 7: 00 until 10: 00 and from 16: 00 until 10: 00 existing bans on all trucks in the cities while partly lifted, in practice it happens but every now and then, that the failure to comply with these restrictions will be punished for checks.

Driving the Fatih Sultan Mehmet bridge is prohibited for trucks in the period from 7: 00 until 10: 00 and from 16: 00 until 10: 00 on all days.

Driving bans Italy 2014:

http://www.rom.diplo.de/contentblob/439230/Daten/3798986/LKW_2014_pdf.pdf

http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=13&cad=rja&ved=0CDoQFjACOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.plose.it%2F15%2FDivieti%2Bdi%2Btransito%2B2014%2BD.pdf&ei=ULvFUuTzDsPNtAbDooCIBw&usg=AFQjCNF2aDVkzaqIlOxgE3TSqBvXWDY4Kg&bvm=bv.58187178,d.Yms

Driving bans in the regio of Bozen Tirol http://www.provinz.bz.it/verkehr/download/LKW_Fahrverbot_2014.pdf

Driving bans Switzerland 2014:

Driving bans at Sundays and holidays from Midnight to Midnight.Cantonal holiday prohibitions don't apply to transit.

Public holidays: January 1 - new year's day 21 18 April - Karfreitag April - Easter Monday May 29 - driveway 9 - Pfingstmontag 1st - national holiday begins - Christmas 26th - Stefan day night still General, ban from 10: 00 until 5 a. m. in the entire Switzerland.

additional restrictions: 17-19, 19-April 22nd, may 28-May 30, 7-10, 31. Juli - 2, 24-27 and 31 December October 2015 time from 22 to 5 am.
http://www.astag.ch/upload/docs/ASTAG/140101-IN-Fahrverbote-Schweiz-d.pdf

Blocking Gotthard tunnel :

The Gotthard road tunnel is blocked for maintenance work in the listed nights.

- from Monday evening, 31 March until Friday morning April 04. , 2014 from 19: 30-05:00 h (4 nights)
- from Monday evening, 2nd June until Friday morning, June 6, 2014 from 19: 30 - 05:00 h (4 nights)
- from Monday evening, 23 June until Friday morning, June 27, 2014, from 19: 30 - 05:00 h (4 nights) for July/August are no maintenance work is intended.

The Gotthard road tunnel is blocked in these nights each for any traffic. Approved cars, buses and trucks are derived via the pass (if not closed in winter). The vehicles are suspended from the North and South portals from 19 h 30. More infos on the website to the Gotthard road tunnel http://www.gotthard-strassentunnel.ch/

All Traffic Informations and Driving bans for spain (only spanish language) :
http://www.trafikoa.net/
http://www.cetm.es/cetm.asp and http://www.dgt.es/es/el-trafico/restricciones/

If i find more i will add it here.

[Mark_09]

Nice post!