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Renewing categories.

Postby Roop298 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:07 pm

My c and e is due to expire this month. As I'm for an op soon I wasn't planning to renew until I'm fit again. Are then any issues if there's a break in service so to speak?
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Re: Renewing categories.

Postby tachograph » Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:18 pm

No problems with leaving it until you're ready to drive again.

Good luck with the operation ;)

Edit: Your HGV entitlement never completely ceases it's just suspended until you reapply for it with your completed medical form.



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Re: Renewing categories.

Postby Roop298 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:31 pm

Sooperdoop.
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Re: Renewing categories.

Postby acd1202 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:21 pm

Roop298 wrote:My c and e is due to expire this month. As I'm for an op soon I wasn't planning to renew until I'm fit again. Are then any issues if there's a break in service so to speak?


You must renew your licence without your ce, you cannot just carry on using the same card just because the car entitlement still has years to run, your licence expires on the date shown in box 4b on the front, it's free to do but you must renew it, then as tachograph says when you want your lgv back you take your medical and renew your licence again.
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Re: Renewing categories.

Postby tachograph » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:41 pm

acd1202 wrote:
Roop298 wrote:My c and e is due to expire this month. As I'm for an op soon I wasn't planning to renew until I'm fit again. Are then any issues if there's a break in service so to speak?

You must renew your licence without your ce, you cannot just carry on using the same card just because the car entitlement still has years to run, your licence expires on the date shown in box 4b on the front, it's free to do but you must renew it, then as tachograph says when you want your lgv back you take your medical and renew your licence again.

I don't think that's correct.

You don't have to renew the licence just because your HGV entitlement has expired, you need to renew your licence when the categories you want to use expire or before the date shown at 4b on the licence, whichever comes first.
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Re: Renewing categories.

Postby acd1202 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:34 pm

tachograph wrote:
acd1202 wrote:
Roop298 wrote:My c and e is due to expire this month. As I'm for an op soon I wasn't planning to renew until I'm fit again. Are then any issues if there's a break in service so to speak?

You must renew your licence without your ce, you cannot just carry on using the same card just because the car entitlement still has years to run, your licence expires on the date shown in box 4b on the front, it's free to do but you must renew it, then as tachograph says when you want your lgv back you take your medical and renew your licence again.

I don't think that's correct.

You don't have to renew the licence just because your HGV entitlement has expired, you need to renew your licence when the categories you want to use expire or before the date shown at 4b on the licence, whichever comes first.



Oh yes you do, 100% certain after having had to do some very quick form filling just a few weeks ago after having fallen foul of this believing as you do, then my car insurer asking if I realised I don't have either a licence or therefore insurance. A call to Swansea confirmed that they were correct. Your licence expires on the date shown in 4b, the end.
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Re: Renewing categories.

Postby stu675 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:39 pm

acd1202 wrote:
tachograph wrote:
acd1202 wrote:
Roop298 wrote:My c and e is due to expire this month. As I'm for an op soon I wasn't planning to renew until I'm fit again. Are then any issues if there's a break in service so to speak?

You must renew your licence without your ce, you cannot just carry on using the same card just because the car entitlement still has years to run, your licence expires on the date shown in box 4b on the front, it's free to do but you must renew it, then as tachograph says when you want your lgv back you take your medical and renew your licence again.

I don't think that's correct.

You don't have to renew the licence just because your HGV entitlement has expired, you need to renew your licence when the categories you want to use expire or before the date shown at 4b on the licence, whichever comes first.



Oh yes you do, 100% certain after having had to do some very quick form filling just a few weeks ago after having fallen foul of this believing as you do, then my car insurer asking if I realised I don't have either a licence or therefore insurance. A call to Swansea confirmed that they were correct. Your licence expires on the date shown in 4b, the end.
You've just contradicted yourself then. Because the op didn't say his 4b was expiring, only his CE.
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Re: Renewing categories.

Postby acd1202 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 2:49 pm

My c and e is due to expire this month. As I'm for an op soon I wasn't planning to renew until I'm fit again. Are then any issues if there's a break in service so to speak?[/quote]
You must renew your licence without your ce, you cannot just carry on using the same card just because the car entitlement still has years to run, your licence expires on the date shown in box 4b on the front, it's free to do but you must renew it, then as tachograph says when you want your lgv back you take your medical and renew your licence again.[/quote]
I don't think that's correct.

You don't have to renew the licence just because your HGV entitlement has expired, you need to renew your licence when the categories you want to use expire or before the date shown at 4b on the licence, whichever comes first.[/quote]


Oh yes you do, 100% certain after having had to do some very quick form filling just a few weeks ago after having fallen foul of this believing as you do, then my car insurer asking if I realised I don't have either a licence or therefore insurance. A call to Swansea confirmed that they were correct. Your licence expires on the date shown in 4b, the end.[/quote]You've just contradicted yourself then. Because the op didn't say his 4b was expiring, only his CE.[/quote]

No I haven't, he didn't need to say. The expiry date in 4b is always the same as the first category expiry date. Therefore if the OPs ce is coming up for renewal his 4b date is also expiring.
Many, including me until recently believed that as long as the category for the vehicles you are driving is in date you have a valid licence. It isn't, every time any category expires your licence must be renewed.
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Re: Renewing categories.

Postby stu675 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:10 pm

acd1202 wrote:

Oh yes you do, 100% certain after having had to do some very quick form filling just a few weeks ago after having fallen foul of this believing as you do, then my car insurer asking if I realised I don't have either a licence or therefore insurance. A call to Swansea confirmed that they were correct. Your licence expires on the date shown in 4b, the end.
You've just contradicted yourself then. Because the op didn't say his 4b was expiring, only his CE.


No I haven't, he didn't need to say. The expiry date in 4b is always the same as the first category expiry date. Therefore if the OPs ce is coming up for renewal his 4b date is also expiring.
Many, including me until recently believed that as long as the category for the vehicles you are driving is in date you have a valid licence. It isn't, every time any category expires your licence must be renewed.
Ok thanks! Agreed now after looking at mine.
So if I want to let my ce lapse in 5 years I can renew my license but won't need a new photo yet.
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Re: Renewing categories.

Postby ROG » Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:26 am

DVLA just sent me a new licence when my LGV expired without the C categories on it as the 10 year photo had not expired
The weird bit was that they extended the 4b so it had a new 10 year expiry on it :!:
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