Well that’s ironic

I drove past a Scottish sounding fast food restaurant a few days ago, huge banner on the side of it saying (to the effect of)…

STAFF WANTED £10ph +£2ph overnight

And yet so many haulage firms are paying £10ph, when will they learn…

But the drivers from MB delivering to the stores are on £17+ph im sure.

Here we go, so better then flipping the burger.

As a greedy money-grabber, I say that’s not a bad screw :smiley: . Based on a 40hr week, the extra for weekends makes it an effective hourly rate of £25-26/hr+. But what type of work is it? If it involves getting any sort of sweat on then I might have to edit my initial comment :smiley: .

Pffffft overtime at single rate…you are getting screwed!

Have to laugh at the top it says shift pattern 5 on 2 off.
Then right near bottom of the advert it says weekend working
1 day required every other weekend. So how is that a 5 on 2 off shift? Its 5 on 2 off 6 on 1 off.

I’d rather work a job on less pay for better hours really

^^^^

It is every weekend. What is the definition of working a whole shift to receive an extra £50 , would that be 15hours?

edd1974:
Have to laugh at the top it says shift pattern 5 on 2 off.
Then right near bottom of the advert it says weekend working
1 day required every other weekend. So how is that a 5 on 2 off shift? Its 5 on 2 off 6 on 1 off.

I’d rather work a job on less pay for better hours really

Seems pretty clear to me : tue to sat or sun to thu.

cav551:
^^^^

It is every weekend. What is the definition of working a whole shift to receive an extra £50 , would that be 15hours?

Not at 40 hours per week unless the other 4 shifts are less than 6 hours.

W/end work would rule me out.

To be honest, it’s difficult to sell our “overworked and underpaid” sobstory to a lot of people…

Try explaining your day to a hospital porter, who, halfway through your pittyfull story, interrupts you because “he needs to see to Mr. Johnson in cubicle 5 who’s soiled himself again”. (Long shifts, always on your feet, cleaning up sick and sjit, paid minimum wage)
Try to explain how hard done by you are, when the goods in staff dont treat you with due deference, to a care worker who has to tell the family that their child has died…
Try to impress on a warehouse worker, on a zero hour contract, not knowing how he or she will feed their kids next week, that you are dangerously overworked, and not even paid an enhanced overtime rate…
Point out to a single mum, trying to juggle two or three part time jobs to feed her kid(s), that working 15 hours a day is not on in this day and age… (get kids up, fed and to school, two or three hours cleaning in the morning, clean house, do laundry etc, a few hours on the till in the afternoon, get kids from school, feed them, put them to bed, and cleaning or a bar job in the evening. All for minimum wage, or less. And it’s usually their kids, who are sent to school clean and fed)…
Theres a lot more than these few…

We should fight for more for all, not pretend we have it hard. We have it easy.

edd1974:
Have to laugh at the top it says shift pattern 5 on 2 off.
Then right near bottom of the advert it says weekend working
1 day required every other weekend. So how is that a 5 on 2 off shift? Its 5 on 2 off 6 on 1 off.

No it isn’t. The advert says one day every weekend, not other weekend. Sunday to Thursday or Tuesday to Saturday satisfies 5 on 2 off with one day every weekend.

the nodding donkey:
We should fight for more for all, not pretend we have it hard. We have it easy.

This. I’m constantly thinking of how hard I’m done by as I’m wailing along to whatever is on the radio driving down the road looking at the scenery being paid to do it. Sure a few jobs, pretty much confined to those involving handballing do have parts of the day when you do have it hard for an hour or so out of your day but for the most part the only hard thing about this job are the long hours and silly o’clock starts/finishes.

the nodding donkey:
To be honest, it’s difficult to sell our “overworked and underpaid” sobstory to a lot of people…

Try explaining your day to a hospital porter, who, halfway through your pittyfull story, interrupts you because “he needs to see to Mr. Johnson in cubicle 5 who’s soiled himself again”. (Long shifts, always on your feet, cleaning up sick and sjit, paid minimum wage)
Try to explain how hard done by you are, when the goods in staff dont treat you with due deference, to a care worker who has to tell the family that their child has died…
Try to impress on a warehouse worker, on a zero hour contract, not knowing how he or she will feed their kids next week, that you are dangerously overworked, and not even paid an enhanced overtime rate…
Point out to a single mum, trying to juggle two or three part time jobs to feed her kid(s), that working 15 hours a day is not on in this day and age… (get kids up, fed and to school, two or three hours cleaning in the morning, clean house, do laundry etc, a few hours on the till in the afternoon, get kids from school, feed them, put them to bed, and cleaning or a bar job in the evening. All for minimum wage, or less. And it’s usually their kids, who are sent to school clean and fed)…
Theres a lot more than these few…

We should fight for more for all, not pretend we have it hard. We have it easy.

Nice one. :bulb: We’d all do well to think sometimes.

cav551:

the nodding donkey:
To be honest, it’s difficult to sell our “overworked and underpaid” sobstory to a lot of people…

Try explaining your day to a hospital porter, who, halfway through your pittyfull story, interrupts you because “he needs to see to Mr. Johnson in cubicle 5 who’s soiled himself again”. (Long shifts, always on your feet, cleaning up sick and sjit, paid minimum wage)
Try to explain how hard done by you are, when the goods in staff dont treat you with due deference, to a care worker who has to tell the family that their child has died…
Try to impress on a warehouse worker, on a zero hour contract, not knowing how he or she will feed their kids next week, that you are dangerously overworked, and not even paid an enhanced overtime rate…
Point out to a single mum, trying to juggle two or three part time jobs to feed her kid(s), that working 15 hours a day is not on in this day and age… (get kids up, fed and to school, two or three hours cleaning in the morning, clean house, do laundry etc, a few hours on the till in the afternoon, get kids from school, feed them, put them to bed, and cleaning or a bar job in the evening. All for minimum wage, or less. And it’s usually their kids, who are sent to school clean and fed)…
Theres a lot more than these few…

We should fight for more for all, not pretend we have it hard. We have it easy.

Nice one. :bulb: We’d all do well to think sometimes.

+1

Maybe some of those single mothers should have kept their knickers on. Hospital workers and care home staff like drivers ought to be paid more.

alamcculloch:
Maybe some of those single mothers should have kept their knickers on. Hospital workers and care home staff like drivers ought to be paid more.

Agreed. My sympathy meter isn’t even flickering for the former. You make your bed in life…

DCPCFML:

alamcculloch:
Maybe some of those single mothers should have kept their knickers on. Hospital workers and care home staff like drivers ought to be paid more.

Agreed. My sympathy meter isn’t even flickering for the former. You make your bed in life…

Not all single mothers are chain smoking, bacardi breezer swilling, kincker dropping slags (have I missed any of your prejudices?). Some are where they are, because they were left holding the baby.
You can set out to make your bed as much as you like, if life kicks you in the teeth, it matters not. Sneering at those dumped in the gutter doesn’t make you a better person.

I recall that it used to be some kind of semi-sanctioned government policy to blame single mothers for everything wrong with this country :unamused: but I was brought up with the notion that “it takes two to tango”.

Another +1 for Nodding Donkey’s post.

the nodding donkey:

DCPCFML:

alamcculloch:
Maybe some of those single mothers should have kept their knickers on. Hospital workers and care home staff like drivers ought to be paid more.

Agreed. My sympathy meter isn’t even flickering for the former. You make your bed in life…

Not all single mothers are chain smoking, bacardi breezer swilling, kincker dropping slags (have I missed any of your prejudices?). Some are where they are, because they were left holding the baby.
You can set out to make your bed as much as you like, if life kicks you in the teeth, it matters not. Sneering at those dumped in the gutter doesn’t make you a better person.

IF that is the case then fair enough, but nearly all of them got themselves into that situation through choices of their own making. In fact many get themselves into that situation deliberately so that I can fund their lifestyle through taxation.