STATE OF PLAY as of 18th October 2022

We now live in a country where our entire political class thinks it is worth sacrificing Britain’s economic future on behalf of a “Nationalist Socialist” (Actual “■■■■”) foreign regime that isn’t our ally, isn’t a member of NATO fighting a country that is a nuclear superpower that we simply cannot afford to have as our enemy.

Yet it is done, and “Newbie” Liz Truss intends to spend further clips of £5,000,000,000 at a time prolonging Zelensky’s futile efforts against the increasingly desperate (we’re told) efforts of Putin’s Russia bearing down upon them there…

At the end of all this, even if the “Best case sceario” is achieved (Putin hands himself over to the Hague, where he can be injected behind the eyeball in his remand cell the moment he says “I’ll be defending myself”) WE, Britain - lose and never get what we “invested” back again. There isn’t going to be some friendly EU beaurocrat installed in the Kremlin to turn what used to be “Russia” into some kind of winding-down energy giant state that’ll once again burn their own furniture to keep warm at winter - something we are going to find out how to do before long…

The entire fertilizer shortage, future crop failures in the Eurozone, High Gas and Oil prices, no taxes on any oil giant whatsoever, rising national insurances despite NO access to the NHS for those who’ve already paid in for years - all comes down to “how much money we waste abroad”…

It isn’t all about Putin not achieving “loser’s consent” though…

We’re also wasting £13,000,000,000 on “foreign aid”, most of which goes towards luxuries for “friendly” foreign dictators, such as Ricep Erdogan, who has managed a pretty good double game himself, allied with Putin AND NATO at the same time, taking billions off the UK and the EU to “slow down the flow of illegals” - which doesn’t seem to have worked at all…
“Injunctions” even from this new Home Secretary Bravermann we have, allegedly more “right wing” than even Preti Patel she replaced - are clearly not working, either.

To coin a phrase, “If you’re not prepared to crack some heads when the chips are down, the only loser at the table - is YOU”.

People think “If you don’t ever give loser’s consent, you cannot ever be a loser”. Wot a load of rubbish!

Our future pensions, which we’ve not touched, not gambled away, - are about to BE gambled away by a “Margin Call” on those pension funds who’ve been stupid enough to buy very-low yielding bonds on margin… I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: If you lose YOUR pension “Maxwell Mirror Group Style” - you don’t get it back again just because “It’s not fair!” any more than Mirror Group pensioners did when Maxwell ended up face down dead in the Atlantic, no doubt bumped off by the Deep State of 1991, to shield themselves from banking liabilities that would arise should the connection ever be made that "How come Maxwell was able to pledge money not his to trade short currency options on margin, which caused the huge losses that brought down the mirror group pension fund, but not strangely the bank that permitted the ILLEGAL trades that should and could have been “busted” by the derivatives exchange at the expense of the errant broker bank for Maxwell’s trading in exchange for “immunity for grand prosecution for fraud”.

The Public, then as now - get to lose - consent given, or not. Billionaires may be bumped off, but they don’t languish in jail unless they are no longer billionires, of course.

Was Epstein murdered or extracted? - Either way, the official line “He killed himself in his cell” holds as much water as a string bag.

Billionaires - are only disposed of when it creates a fire break between BANKS and the Public baying for blood, over the latest of what are now very much everyday public swindles.

The big questions for the next five years - will be:

Which politicians get jailed for killing people, stealing public money, giving public money to actual criminal factions, waging illegal wars, hiding the assets of foreign criminals, and of course spending public money covering it all up… Expected Answer? - NONE. Any journalist with any reputation coming up with an expose - can expect to “accidentally fall under a tube train” which is the British equivalent of “Falling of a Balcony” in Russia…

“Conspiracy Theorists” who used to be ignored are now persecuted more than actual terrorists… Hmm…

NONE of this, however - can happen without consent. NOT the consent of the Majority, nay MORAL majority - but rather the consent of the creeping, insidious, godless, truthless “Center Left” that have been in the ascendant on this planet for some decades now. It seems as memory of “Wartime” fades, so with it, as the last veterans of the last world conflict all die off - we see areplacement of “Patriotism” with instead “passive consent” where it is only possible to rob the public, murder key players, keep actual guilty millionaires immune from prosecution forever.

Bad things happen to good people - because the passive left permits it.
There was no outrage when the Center Left got rid of Corbyn, no outrage when the Republicans waved through the fraud that got rid of Trump, and no outrage when the Remainer Conservatives got rid of Boris despite not having a clue what to do next, nor do right where Boris had got it completely wrong…

“Lies” are not important in politics. You’ve “Lied” the moment you didn’t deliver, and it becomes apparent - you never intended to deliver.
Blair lied about the need to kill a million Iraqi civililians to get “one bad dude dictator” - which was a 100% successful operation, providing you thought it was worth it, no one YOU knew or loved got “killed” for the sake of a handful of world leader’s “Ego”. “I only did what I thought was right”.

Boris lied about “Getting Brexit Done”. He stopped trying the moment he got the full majority he needed to complete Brexit, and flipped over to his new Wife’s cause of “Busting this country off Fossil Fuels” instead, which instantly made us hostil to the notion of Cheap fossil fuel imports from Putin’s Russia…“I know, let’s come up with a reason to hate Putin, this guy who’s killed less people YOU care about than Peter Sutcliff” don’t forget…

Perspective Perspective… Perspective…

We’re told to expect even higher gas prices next April now…
Odd that: The wholesale price of Gas has been steadly dropping these last few months, so the issue really should be “Howcome that drop in price - isn’t being passed on, even “trickledown” passed on will do…!!”

(Live UK gas price chart - Interactive)

In short, we get lied to all the time, we then get told "Starmer is 30 points ahead in the polls, the Tories will be down to double-digits of seats if the election were held now.

How can THAT be remotely truth though■■?

It assumes at very least that former Tory voters will switch straight to Starmer… Wot? - Lifetime Tory voters as well? Pull the other one!!

It assumes that Starmer has a different vision for Britain’s future than “Promising more of the same”, and then blaming Tory cuts for putting any future NOT Austerity out of HIS reach as PM…

Right now, I’d vote for Keir Starmer - if he came up with some “Rank Breaking” policy changes of his own. Taxing Energy companies on it’s own - isn’t the answer, of the Tories would have done this, and saved their own skins months ago…

Rank Breaking - Corbyn has said it… “Make peace with Putin’s Russia”. In addition, “Let’s cut Ukraine loose, we’re not in the Eu any more, it’s not our problem, we cannot afford to have that prescence on the international stage any longer”.

By pretending we’re still a bigshot nation in the world - we’re hurling towards oblivion at an ever-faster pace.

“Borrowing” only works - if you borrow to build something that turns a profit in the end.
I can’t remember the last time we did that in this country.

By rights, lenders to this country - could and maybe should have objected to lending us further funds to wage stupid proxy wars that we cannot ever win…

…Who’s to say that is exactly what is happening right now?

China, lender to Britain - doesn’t approve of us helping Ukraine against their ally Putin - so they are winding down their bond purchases, and THAT in fact is the reason that interest rates are rising faster than this country’s banks can cope with right now…

There might be a house price crash indeed, but if you see a £250,000 house fall to £50,000 in the next five years - no young person will be able to go “Yippee - Affordable housing at last!” - because that hapless idiot who votes Labour and hopes their parents will leave them their house soon - will find the mortgage payments on £50,000 @ 18% (where rates were in 1992) is £750 per month interest only mind… You’ll be asked by the lending bank “Can you afford £750 per month payments?” and you say “YES” - How come you didn’t buy that house @ £250,000 five years ago, when you could have had a 5 year fixed for lower payments than that then?

"Oh, I thought house prices were gonna drop, and I built up my deposit for years, not realizing that the price would rise above what I could borrow, because I wasn’t prepared to take the plunge, and just buy a freaking house when I actually wanted to live in one!"

Our politicians - continue to lie to us of course.

Anything they have lost control of - likely they didn’t control it in the FIRST place.
“Wrong Decisions” that are costing lives and our entire country’s future - don’t get “U-Turned” quite as easily as the weakest PM we’ve ever had…
The Tories - get to OWN that - because they didn’t HAVE to boot Boris, they didn’t HAVE to switch leaders multiple times without calling an election, and they WON’T reform our political system now in time - before a future post-apocalypse revolution changes it FOR us.

A country that has lost a third of it’s population - is easier to govern, BUT is rather more insistent on “instant gratification” FROM that government as well.
The ultimate END to “Jam Tomorrow” poltics - destroy the future, so there IS no tomorrow!

Two possibilities.

  1. You are a crackpot. We all chuckle, and move along.

  2. You are right. We are buggered. There’s nothing we can
    do, other than drive over the cliff, cigar in one hand, drink
    in the other.

the nodding donkey:
Two possibilities.

  1. You are a crackpot. We all chuckle, and move along.

  2. You are right. We are buggered. There’s nothing we can
    do, other than drive over the cliff, cigar in one hand, drink
    in the other.

You’re only buggered - if you carry on consenting by refusing to vote for a drastically different future that can only come from an anti establishment party.

I can only envy the MAGA movement in America which is full-whack in the faces of the political establishment as we speak. It has become a juggernaut that even the kitchen sink thrown at it next month - won’t stop it now.

Meanwhile, over here - our political establishment refuses to let even a single “upstart” seat be won by any party that deepstate doesn’t prior approve of. Even the greens are permitted their single seat, a nexus for us to all be buggered chasing the non-dream of a fossil fuel-less future that won’t do anyone any good except those that have made their entire fortunes from this total con.

For most of us at the ballot box - we only have that “4th option” of someone like Lord Buckethead, because it is just sooo expensive to stand in a seat these days.

We never had our own Trump. Boris being called “Britain’s Trump” didn’t materialize in the end, him prefering to fund foreign nazis and his wife’s non-working green agenda and defunct NHS rather than the “Get Brexit Done” which would have prevented pretty much everything bad that has happend to us since Boris got elected…

(1) Total lockdown of airports, rather than leaving them open so Big Pharma could peddle their nonsense “Vaccines” that at best, don’t work and at worst - actually harm people.

(2) Pull up that damned drawbridge as per the mandate that the Brexit vote was supposed to represent. Hey presto, whilst we’re at it, no-papers illegals - can’t get here any more neither.

(3) Support Trump’s America instead of Biden’s Fraud. Trump not being ousted - prevents both disasters that have since ensued in Afghanistan and Ukraine.

(4) No need to support any foreign proxy wars anywhere neither, because we don’t do the bidding of foreign controllers (deep state) any longer - again, what the Brexit vote was supposed to deliver, but never got touched in the end. Boris dropped Brexit the moment he won his majority.

To “Unbugger” ourselves then - we need to do what I suspect is about to happen in America three weeks from now.
A political bloodbath where the most anti-establishment candidate becomes our new PM
It is about time that a future “Event” actually did us some good, and overturned the regular order of things where we currently stand to be buggered whether we vote Left, Right, or Center.
Is there a candidate in any of the mainstream parties that could seriously shake up British Politics?
…That candidate, should they even exist (yet) - will appear on the stage with a radical, and very cheap idea: - To stop wasting money on anything which we have not actually voted for directly. Funding to the NHS? - Strange how billions upon Billions have not improved it one jot over our entire lifetimes… NHS stays in Hospital - used to be “A bit of rest” rather than the death row it has become for so many millions of us these days… There’s no need to fund foreign projects neither. Brexit - we spend the money here on ourselves, especially bearing in mind all those foreigners we’ve taken in over the years… Surely if we can’t do it for ourselves - we can at least do it as an excuse to fund them settling down here??

All three main parties are “Globalist DeepState Backed” as it stands, so efforts need to start being made to get some fresh people into Westminster, rather than buggering the public about with futile protests that less than 1% of the public support in any shape or form. Where are the protestors against the annual £13billion in foreign aid we waste? The £5billions we keep handing over to Ukraine, when they clearly are not spending it on fighting and dying even in their own war? Where’s the “protests” against tax rises? Benefit Cuts? Jailing people for mis-appropriating public funds? Without punishments - there can be no justice. We’ve now lost another so-called right wing home secretary who’s found out that “I want to crack down on crime, but the Deep State told me NO”. We need a MEGA movement in this country that can sweep all the whitehall corruption away - and soon. It won’t be Putin that nukes us - it’ll be Deep State run Western “Allies” if we’re not careful… “Faux Flag Throwdown”. Ukraine would quite happily stage a “nuclear accident” in THIS country - if it got us to go to WWIII with Putin… The sleeper agents are already here don’t forget. It’s about time we cut the buggers loose before we get buggered by our inaction against further deep state Evil in the world. :frowning:

Can’t disagree with much there, but sadly you’re preaching to a congregation that’s increasingly unable to think outside the narrative that is weaved by the propaganda dept of the state, ie the mainstream media in all its forms.

Anyone awake realises the 2.5 main political parties are doing the bidding of the state or rather whoever ownes the state and to whom its beholden, the enemies of the people are fantastically wealthy, western world ■■■■■■■■■■ wealthy and all powerful with tentacles inside the top layers of many western govts, the mass media is owned and controlled by the same people, anyone not complying or going against the narrative is vilified accused of doing what the enemy are themselves doing (the left has always done this, accuse others of what they themselves do) and if they become too much of a nuisance suicide fatal accident or death by convenient lunatic is a likely outcome if progressive ridicule cancelling ruination or a kangaroo court sanctioned stay in his maj’s criminal warehouse doesn’t lead to their convenient death one way or another.
On that subject Winseer, its probably a good thing posts such as your header here don’t get larger exposure.

The electorate don’t have the will to switch off the mainstream idiot box in the corner, compulsive, until they turn off the propaganda we’ll always elect whichever of the chosen team’s turn it is as we approach end times for the west. Does anyone here not realise Labour is supposed to take over now, subtle (sarc) hints like the most public suicide of a political regime as the tories are currently acting out?

I don’t include the east, Russia China India the middle east et al in this, they’re not planning to go down with the western ship and unlike when Gaddafi came up with a plan to give Africa its own financial systems the combined east are too poweful militarily for the west (America masquerading as Nato) to annihalate without resorting to world ending nuclear war…but don’t put it past the American deep state acting for the financial megalomaniacs to engineer this dreadful prospect yet, who knows how far they are prepared to go to take the natural resources alone.

On the Ukraine farce, does anyone not see the irony of our weasel nobody politicians talking tough to Putin/Russia when they can’t even stop illegals floating in over our very own God given moat**, how they use the once highly regarded Lifeboat Institution and the laughable border farce to ferry them in from allegedly the half way point, too humiliating for words but there they are threatening Russia and using sanctions guaranteed to backfire whilst borrowing £billions to chuck at the present Ukraine regime to keep in the USA deep state’s good books.
You couldn’t make any of this up.

** having just sacked the home secretary who showed keen to actually do her job, ie enforce the border…if sacking Suella Braverman doesn’t make people realise where we are truly at then there’s no hope for us, the irony of that particular Home Sec knowing the true value of secure borders and why we should control exactly who why and how many are coming here whilst the nation betraying class of politicians try their best to thwart any such restrictions surely must resonate, they won’t make that mistake again, no Home Secretary worthy of the title required thankyou

We’re being told of forthcoming rolling power cuts:

I suspect that either
(1) There won’t be any such power cuts, but people promptly pay their huge bills, so they don’t risk getting cut off at a flick of a switch, like good little model citizens…

OR…

(2) The power cuts - are just to take our minds off other aspects going wrong in the economy, with political events normally taking place in plain sight - now put out whilst half the country doesn’t have a battery-powered TV on to pay any attention to it… !!

Odd that the Government isn’t advising us to:
Stock up on Candles
Stock up on canned food, and other stuff that doesn’t need to be cooked
Wind-down, and empty the current contents of your chest freezers!!

That missing bold type one above, leads me to believe that (1) is more likely to be the case here than (2) of course…
Energy companies - are finding it harder to squeeze £500pm direct debits out of people, bearing in mind that money tends to fly out of one’s account to meet the higher mortgage payements nowadays… It isn’t politically feasible to murder people by the thousand by flicking a switch this winter - but hey - we’ve not had a winter with serious snow by the Autumn - since 2006!

The establishment are presumably hoping that we’ll have yet another mild winter this year coming up…

The price of gas continues to fall on the international futures market.
(Track it here)

It picked up a bit at the end of last trading week, but has still more than halved from the highs set earlier this year.

The price we pay at Retail of course - bears no resemblence to this, the wholesale price - just the poltiically “Price conditioned” amount we’ve been told to expect to pay because of “Putin’s War” which isn’t coming to an end anytime soon, thanks to all the deep state “donations” made on our western citizen’s behalf to deliberately prolong this war, to make sure we can get our cold turkey off fossil fuels, thus serving the already stale, and outmoded green agenda, which citizens can SEE isn’t working any more than the mass produced covid vaccines did. Big Pharma - have made and continue to make their billions. People are still dying, some of them of rather than despite the “vaccine” as well. There’s no longer any argument against that fact. It isn’t “Theory” anymore when you have a 2nd, third, or whatever jab - and promptly get covid, or if you are unlucky enough - even die from it. The main “Fraud” contiunes to be “Not that Covid is real”, but that it was man made, didn’t HAVE to be made at all, and the billions handed over to those to “fix” it - have been looted from Western taxpayers, and continue to be so. A curved ball politically, for people like Imran Khan or Bosonaro of Brazil - who are trying to stay in office despite Deep state moves against them… Khan - of course, has already been booted from office after his Agricultural deal with Putin… LIke the american establihsment are currently trying to do to Trump, there’s an effort in progress to prevent him every holding political office again, because “If the establishment don’t cheat, they cannot win” and they know it. Khan’s solid support base, similar to MAGA America - are not very happy about this neither, but you won’t see any coverage on BBC… The American side of protests simply lablelled it “Insurrection” to try and taint it in the eyes of the lesser-informed american public who don’t watch their TV beyond their biased “regular” channels.
Try this though…
https://tv.gab.com/channel/rt/view/hundreds-protest-against-pm-imran-khans-6354137c3e528ba3e1cd6f2e

https://tv.gab.com/channel/rt/view/climate-activists-in-washington-dc-protest-634aee4f542bb803daa9b9a2
(This is the “permitted” type of protest these days in America - one that isn’t classed as “Insurrection” because it is about rising prices, Trump being deposed, or foreign wars no one voted for…)

It’s odd how Sci Fi film rollouts, supposedly random stories of entire fiction - let slip these deep concepts of deep state vs regular people that are supposed to be on the same side, but end up at each other’s throats…

Admiral Marcus’ exchange with young Kirk, who is questioning “The Narrative” speaks volumes @ time index 1m:50s

“You spoke to him…”

That’s what mainstream want to stop people like Trump, Bosonaro, Putin, et all - doing to the rest of the world right now.
Kanye West and Trump are both in the “BS News” this week with tales of Anti-Semtic remarks that were actually about the lying, mainstream media… Anyone talking against robbin’ Banks - also gets routinely accused of “Anti Semetism” now as well, of course…

These people - the deep state (NOT any racial, national, social, or religious groups…) are hijacking the whole of humanity. The only way to fight back is to hijack their agenda away from them again…
The population needs to reject the Green Agenda, the deliberate depression agenda, the Covid Cull, and the supression of free speech and freedoms EVERYWHERE - before it is too late.
…If we don’t do it, we end up going to WWIII - as the “Bad Guys” of History, the third of the population that perished in such a conflict…

Who’s letting them? - Those we’ve been told to be distracted by, of course…
“Activists” making us believe that “Freedom of Expression” is still alive and well…
“Deep State Sponsored Token Protests about unimportant stuff” - more like…

It’s time we stopped listening to all the mainstream versions of events, and updating ourselves as to what’s really going on in the world.

I took the liberty of cancelling my BBC licence last month - a quick check BY them of THEIR IP records, satisfied them that I’d not logged into Iplayer or any other online streaming terrestrial TV site like C4 or ITV player neither… I get all my news off the internet now, and the first channels I ignore - are those who don’t actually report the news.

Give us the whole news, and nothing BUT the news - or go quietly into the night.

I’m sick to death of “Regular” fluff pieces, distraction pieces, never ever any criticism of deep state, and of course the lies and propaganda put out by our officials that actually have a mandate to governn.

I reckon we’re about to be saddled with Sunak in some shape or form, the Deep State prefered candidate to be ruining… I mean running this country.
The markets “like him” - which means we should question his motives.
What can possibly “please” the markets right now - other than “Total Austerity on Steroids” hmm??

We didn’t vote for THAT did we?

There’s not going to be an election ahead of 2024 neither, of course.

A lot of damage was done by the ERM freaks in 1992-94 where over 4 million Tory voters - got their homes re-possessed in this country. The news, facts, statstics are out there - if anyone can be bothered to look for them.

How long did it take for Labour to get elected with a majority as a consequence of this former “Tory Outrage”? - Five full years.
…And even then, it also took the sudden death of John Smith MP and a public school “Tory Lite” Toff taking over Labour - to achieve that election win.
The poster had it right - but it was too little truth, too late of course…

by Winseer » Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:11 am

Another Saturday night on the Absinthe…

the nodding donkey:

by Winseer » Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:11 am

Another Saturday night on the Absinthe…

And crack

So you idiots don’t actually have an opinion of your own, a counter argument, or any actual useful information for everyone else reading here? If there’s nothing here for you, then read another thread, and troll there instead.

Back to topic…

Boris - has two options now.

Go quietly into the night, and accept that his once deep-state handler has now beaten that old rule that says “He who wields the knife - doesn’t get to be Leader after”…

OR…

Come back in a couple of weeks, raise a vote of no confidence, precipitate an INSTANT election as a consequence, and then…
…Cross the floor (Ritually, since there is no actual Reform Party MP as of yet) to become the nexus for a future Westminer full of freshly elected RP MPs, consisting of Businesspeople instead of lifetime polticians…

Sunak - isn’t going to be left alone by the opposition, who will be going “General Election” every time Sunak stands up and says something they don’t like, which is going to be often for the “Austerity on Steroids” that is now coming…

Brexit wasn’t enough of a “Single Issue” for Farage to get any of his people elected, and I doubt very much if “Windfall Tax(es)” will be enough to get Labour winning more seats, let alone a majority. They will find it very hard indeed to get past Sturgeon’s block of SNP seats, don’t forget.

The party membership - elected the “Wrong Brother” with Ed Milliband…
They elected the “Wrong Leader” again with Corbyn…
The Tories then permitted May to become leader without a contest, because as a Remainer she wouldn’t have had grass roots backing otherwise…

The Grass Roots membership DID pick Boris, who then went on to win a decent majority…

The Parliamentary Party then saw fit to bring about Boris’ downfall, and asked the membership to pick their new leader, only for them to pick the “wrong one” again with Liz Truss…

Now Sunak - the Deep State Pick, the Parliamentary Pick, the Oligarch Pick, The Banker’s Pick - gets to become PM without a contest, and of course now
without a general election. He’s bulletproof until the end of 2024 unless Boris truly becomes “Churchillian” and brings the entire Tory Party edifice crashing down about their unworthy heads.

Has the hour now come whence the “Man of Sin” has been revealed, I wonder?

People that don’t believe anything, don’t “Survive” because they don’t believe in the death that is about to befall so many.
If you walk off a cliff and “don’t believe, nor understand Newton’s Theory of Gravity” - that doesn’t stop you being dashed to pieces on the rocks below.

If you believe in the NHS instead of God (because you’re a lefty) - that doesn’t stop you going into hospital - and not coming out alive.
“Death” is pretty inpartial, coming as it can from “Accident” or “Neglect” or “Too much dithering” or “Surgeon was on Holiday” or “Couldn’t get an appointment” - or even “Shouldn’t have fallen ill after Friday going home time for the non-24/7 staff”…

Hopefully Jeremy Hunt, not a politician I happen to like - might like to put in place the harsh transformation of the NHS that would convert it into the very 24/7 operation that of course our TRANSPORT industry very much already is.

Sack them all, and re-employ them on zero hours contracts at a considerbly higher hourly rate…

…That way, if you work your hours - you earn a lot more. If you put in overtime - you earn even more still…
BUT if you keep throwing sickies all the time, donk away your hours outside smoking, don’t clean the place properly, using the sluice cloth to wipe down tables and all, or do everything possible to keep patients from a speedy recovery
…You probably won’t be part of that new, KEEN intake of workers, who of course - won’t be needing a union membership for themselves any longer - will they?

The biggest danger to each other right now - is each other.

If it’s possible for our so-called “Centerist” politicians right now to set Left vs Right like they have, then anyone on EITHER side of politics - who seems to be getting “too far ahead” - ends up being brought down to earth with a bang, sometimes with fatal consequences…

We’re led to believe that there’s “more danger from the Far right than the far left”.

In actuality, the Far Right have been persecuted, jailed, off the scene for YEARS.

Far Left? - They get fed the illusion that they are only “one election from power” - and strangely, that election they are 100% to win - never seems to happen in the same timeframe universe, just as Keir Starmer’s 30-points-ahead-in-the-polls - isn’t going to materialize into an actual majority in our lifetimes. Sunak - might be kind to Keir Starmer and set it up so Labour DO actually win a majority in 2024 - but first he’ll have to destroy all the minor parties of Britain (Except the Greens, of course, as the Greens are the ONLY ones gaining from the political events that have unfolded around the world, this year so far…)

So that just leaves us with "Who is the real “Dungeonmaster” here…

Those that lie to both sides - and keep us at each other’s throats.

I don’t want to walk around a Leftist stronghold like Hackney or Toxteth for fear of being knifed, for example. Maybe I’m insecure, but looking at the comments I get on here sometimes - the best way to avoid coming to harm incoming from the opposite side of politics to oneself - would seem to be to avoid confrontations with such people that would see “Harm come” at the drop of a hat, should they be suitably “Triggered” beforehand…

On the opposite side, a Left-leaning Union member/industrial worker - might avoid places like Bayswater Road, for “Fear of being blown up by a jihadist” they’ve been brainwashed into fearing over the past years.
We’ll all be told things like “Zelensky Hero” and “Orange Man Bad” when in fact if history had gone the other way for both these two characters alone - we wouldn’t have 90%+ of the center-created problems we now have today.

Then we’ve got things like the Left being told that to despise the State of Israel is “Anti Semitic”, whilst the Right get told that “Despising Bankers” or “Jewish-Owned Media” is the same thing - Look at what has happened to Kanye West this past week…

If the Deep State want “Protection” they’ll always deflect.
If you’re a robbing, lying, cheating Banker/Politician/Estate Agent/Lawyer/Police Commissioner or anyone with the power to ruin the lives of another “on a whim” - then the moment YOU get accused of any “wrong doing” - suddenly the “Religion” or “Nationality” or “Race” becomes the “newspeak” reason for that perfectly sensible criticism to be totally condemned - and the whole issue is thus defected.

Notice how the “Racist” remarks did NOT come out for those who recently criticized Kwasi Kwarteng, our now-gone chancellor…

Notice how the “Nationalist ■■■■!” remarks did NOT come out for those who recently entered this country illegally, only to set up a business to syphon money out of the country, aided and abetted by the furlough scheme…

Notice how the “Islamophobic” label was NOT levvied at the Left for their criticism of the previous chancellor of short period - Sajid Javid

Notice how it was NOT considered “Racist/■■■■-like” to criticise former home secretaries Patel and Bravermann (Both women of different Culture AND Colour) for trying to deport actual illegal aliens from this country - to Rwanda.

The hypocrisy - abounds.

I would argue that from what the Tories have done these past few years, “box ticking cabinet ministers” aplenty the way they have…

Proves that positive discrimination - doesn’t actually work after all.
We don’t need Labour to carry on “proving that” all over again, neither. The best person should get the job - always.

Another reason, as far as I’m concerned - to reform politics by making it more about who will employ us in our futures, rather than who will tax us, and waste money on those things we didn’t vote for following their ascent to power…

Imagine a Parliament full of actual Employers, who only aim to stand as MPs for a limited period of their lives, not drawing pay like Trump set the example, and “putting something back for the good of the country” - above corruption, as a politician who works for free - surely cannot be bought??

END the “Professional” politician then, and let’s have a system of government that really DOES work for everyone except Criminals, Rival Nations, and the Wealthy Evil.

Gotta have that “Scapegoat” back - because without one, we carry on taking out our differences on each other.

Britain’s “Finest Hours” are always when we are at war/fighting, with us all to often losing any peace that might follow thereafter.

We won against Germany, only to lose the Empire.
Perhaps things would have been different - if we’d have made a “United States of Britain” which included all the Western Europe states that now continue to be part of the EU?

There wouldn’t have been any need for NATO that way, and the Soviet Union at our eastern border - would have presented a pretty decent “Balance of Power” almost Bond-Film like it it’s execution.

We knew where we stood in those halcyon days - didn’t we?

Nowadays however, we’re about 5000 times more likely to be murdered by a British-born person on the opposite side of politics to us - than by any KGB agent put out by Putin’s Russia, weather that’s really what did happen in the past in cases like “Salisbury” - or not. :frowning:

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Also, - “Have more UK citizens been murdered by Ukrainians over the years, than have ever been killed by Putin’s agents over his entire tenure as Russian Leader”?

Just askin’, like…

…and of course, when it comes to Ukrainians being killed, rather than doing the killing - no one kills Ukrainians like Ukrainians when the boot is on the other foot…

Meanwhile, back in the west - we’re told we are somehow “Domestic Terrorists” to even question the narrative on what’s really going on out there…

“Didn’t Believe the Lies?” - Propaganderist.
“Refused to re-tell the Lies?” - Domestic Terrorists
“Voted for those who tell the lies?” - Model Citizens

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Just a quick note to pass a word of thanks to our hard working moderators.
Well Done.

My read and expectations for tomorrow:

The Democrats are prepared to let a handful of seats fall.
They have instructed their friendly mainstream media to concentrate the public’s attention upon Red seats that can flip Blue rather than Blue seats that can flip Red.

All “toss up” states are either Red states/precincts trying to stay Red (if they do stay red, then “no change” init?)
…or… They are the states/precincts already written off.

Arizona
Georgia
Nevada

Pensilvania is a Republican HOLD following the seat being vacated by a retireing republican, so doesn’t count as a “Red Gain” even if Oz manages to beat Fetterman

(Pay attention to the segment 5m15sec in for the rest of that minute…)

As that stands then, the end score would be 53/47 to the Republicans IF we were being told the full picture here, which of course (I suspect) we’re not.

Wot about:

Washington State
Oregon
New York
New Hampshire
and
Minnesota

NONE getting much mention on the news, but where the so-called “Safe Seat” (Solid) Democrat holds are - only to now be in enough trouble that the big guns have come around to speak on the local candidate’s behalf, such as Hochal in New York, just a few weeks ago “so far ahead, she can’t possibly lose”…

Ahem.

For “Democracy” to win out here, there needs to be a few upsets against the Blues rather than the Reds tomorrow night. Not the “Middle of next bloody week” like some pundits are saying!

Preventing someone like Kari Lake from winning in Arizona - makes losers of the entire American republic.
Seeing a few big scalps fall among the “solid blue” areas though? - Could mark the beginning of a new era in America, where efforts are made to get Humanity into Space, stop all foreign wars, proxy wars, and aid for wars - and truly save HUMANITY which is a more lofty goal than even Trump’s “Save America” - don’t you think?

The Republicans are even rolling out “Pulling the plug on Ukraine” as an election pledge…

If the Democrats don’t get totally killed in a red-out bloodbath like the 1972 general election - I’d imagine that the “Maga Republicans” will be making loud noises for many months to come yet… On the other hand, that bloodbath actually being allowed to happen - might embolden the traditional Republicans to come forward, and think they can now “Go it alone - without Trump”.

Be careful what you wish for - EITHER side!

Most likely, I reckon the Democrats have already thrown the proberbial kitchen sink at “Keeping as many seats as they already hold - as possible”.

All this talk of “Taking days to find out the result” - sounds like 2020 all over again, where states like Virginia where the Dems are ahead, but their lead is being eroded by mail-in Republican ballots - The result got called VERY early indeed - whilst the Dems were still ahead, of course.

Take another state like Georgia on the other hand - Trump was massively ahead on “in person” votes, which would all have been counted by the early hours of the next morning - only then to be run over by the “mailed in ballot count” going on…and on… and on… - presumably until enough “extra ballots for the Blues” could be found that would deny Trump an apparent six-figure winning margin of votes if one actually closed the polls at the same time EVERYWHERE, rather than “based on what local election organizers wish”…

I would predict then that in all currently Blue areas - the vote will be called very early indeed for the Democrats if it looks like incomg mailed-in AND in-person ballots - look like they might run over the expected result. “Virginia” times around 200 different places then.

Watch for places like New Hampshire, Vermont, and Connecticut - all officially “Ignored” routinely by pollsters as "So solidly blue, that anyone voting Red there - just gets their ballot papers binned as an “antisocial abberation”.

Are the local people, the normally blue-voting (now former) middle classes, who’ve lost their jobs during the lockdown, not got what was promised them from their (former) beloved regime - going to stay at home, or even vote for a local Red candidate they actually like as a person?

In the French election a few months back, after Melenchon got knocked out, leaving just Le Pen and Macron on the run-off ballot papers:
A lot of disappointed Melenchon (Leftist) voters declared “I’m not now intending to vote in the run-off, but I won’t mind if someone “borrows” my now unused vote, and casts it for Macron” - not being prepared to vote for Macron to stop LePen themselves…

What if American Democrat voters - decide to “Stay at Home” this time around, but not tell anyone they’re not intending to vote at all this time?

The “Autovote appropriator” Democrat machine known to exist where “Dead people vote Democrat” (New England), “out-of-state people can vote Democrat” (Pensilvania), “Tourists can vote Democrat” (Nevada) or maybe a combination of all three (New York) - can only appropriate someone’s vote that ONCE existed as an eligable voter for that cachement area.

If the party doesn’t know or realize that they’ve lost a load of people that will now “Stay at home, and not bother” (especially if the weather goes on being as bad as it HAS been of late) - then their votes cannot be ‘borrowed’ quite so easily, lest anyone complain when arriving at a polling booth tomorrow “Sorry bud, according to our records - you’ve already voted!” “Would you like to lodge an objection, in which case we’ll look at YOU for committing possible voter fraud, or would you like to turn on your heel and walk away right now sir/madam?”

Most people have got more important things to worry about in these “strong blue” areas these days, like making their next mortgage payment, paying their doubled grocery bills, or filling their gas tanks at over $8 per gallon - the taxes being the highest in Blue-run areas, naturally…

“Oh well never mind”

  • is one possible outcome,

“People who have already lost everything - now lose it”

…is another.

Fingers crossed, the Democrats will get the drubbing they right royally deserve tomorrow, with the result so stark, so strongly swung to the Republican side - that “holding the result open for as long as possible” will merely bring the election scrutineers - very close to chucking a few key people in jail that should have gone there some two years back…

Up-and-coming Damien Thorn-like Gavin Newsome - GAINS should the Democrats get bloodbathed tomorrow.
He’s almost certinally to become the new Democrat Nominee for 2024 as a consequence, with Biden, Harris, and Pelosi - all gone by Christmas THIS year in the meantime.

“Rigged 2020” was as real as Hunter Biden’s Laptop was.
All the lies that were told to the contrary - were already, or will soon be exposed.
As of yet - no one has gone to jail, not even Trump for all the false witness bourne against him.

It is a crying shame that those lies being upheld on the mainstream media - also come to “zero punishments” for these people, “Masters of the Wokeverse” as they are, one and all.

I don’t think the Republicans would bother “Impeaching Joe” if they win big - they’ll more likely bypass Joe, and run an little “Inquisition” of their own… Against those who’ve actually lied and conspired under oath at any stage.
Of course, only those still in office by that point - need carry on worrying.

Nancy Pelosi - is already lining up herself as the next Ambassador to Italy, with the hope of shoehorning her daughter into her soon-to-be-vacant San Fransisco precinct seat.

If SHE is already heading for the lifeboats - What for all those diehards who insist that “American Elections, the home of the entire democrat process - has the 100% integrity you should expect”.

Those to leave last - will likely be the first to find themselves in jail for supporting the biggest conspiracy of all:

Converting America to Godless Communism

This could even be construed as “High Treason”, and a “Nuremburg” like Trial process ensues?

THAT is what the Democrats fear - most of all.

Let the rats leave the sinking ship - whilst they still can.
A number of Blue candidates - are already not intending to stand in 2024 as well, so without a full REFORM of the Democrat Party as Trump has reformed the Republican Party - how can they possibly survive?

“Democrat” - is NOT “Democracy” of course, and Biden should stop touting those two similar words as if they were.

I guess this belongs on this thread:-

I tried, really, I tried to read all these post but, well they’re all just too…….mental
Anyway, I’m off to fashion a tin foil hat, I’ll wear it tomorrow at a jaunty angle and think of you all

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GOG47:
I tried, really, I tried to read all these post but, well they’re all just too…….mental
Anyway, I’m off to fashion a tin foil hat, I’ll wear it tomorrow at a jaunty angle and think of you all

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I guess you’d better keep your tinfoil hat for what comes next after a whitewash that leaves every voter in the WORLD as an ongoing loser…

Both sides stood out in all weather to vote in an election that has delivered precisely “No Change Whatsoever”.

The only “loser” as such, is Trump’s 100+ candidates. It’s like the Left betting the ranch on Black, the Right betting their lives on Red - and the green double zero comes up, and “House keeps all bets”… It all looks fair and square, and it doesn’t really matter if it is or isn’t. To make losers out of us all - when that’s death’s prime purpose - might be a bit of political hubris too far, should disasters currently thought of as “Man Made” rather than “Natural” - continue to escalate around the world…

The way is thus paved now for Trump to run against De Santis in 2024 as an independent, that’ll hand the Democrats (due to the split vote) the fillibusting majority they’ve dreamt of for decades…
Doesn’t bode well for Right NOR Left, as the rest of us ordinary folk in the western hemisphere - now face years of economic depression, austerity, endless voters being ignored over the real issues of concern, and of course the slow attrition due to other means of bringing about our early graves “To get the world population down to 100m” for the Greensters “back to nature” agenda dontya know…

Fine, if you’re one of those 100million of course, but I’d point out that with the current world population reaching 80 times this number this week - Do you think you’ll make this “cut”?

Meanwhile, the Right will swallow it - providing they don’t lose their jobs, families, or houses…

The Left will swallow it - providing we’re nice to Illegals, sort our rubbish, lie down on the M25 occasionally, don’t upset any other so-called “Minorities” that may well be (under “Barbarism” at least…) more suitable to make this 100m “cut” I spoke of prior than we ordinary 50-something white male “gender one” plebs are… If only the Right could get away from “Covering themselves” all the time, and the Left could get away from this “Alturism” thing, where you’d happily walk off a cliff like a lemming - to save someone you’ll never meet from something you believe in even less…

I wonder what the Centerist minions will do - once they realize they’ve already been used and discarded, “thanks very much for letting us win” from the political class, that are the only ones celebrating this morning.?

All it would take now - is a faux flag throwdown assassination at what remains of the Kopped-27 Event, pushing Egypt into the same quagmire Putin is in - (another exporter of affordable energy - taken off the world market) to bring the doomsday clock from 5minutes to midnight to about 30 seconds to…

We may hit that 100m world population mark - sooner than we think!

“A tin hat” then - might protect you from alpha and beta particles, but in the end - most of us will have a matress leaning up against the wall to vainly protect ourselves from 1m celcius and gamma rays that can go through solid lead…

An irremoveable regime - always ends up being destroyed by total war.

Repeated time and time again over 6000 years of recorded history - a small fraction of the 2million years people have actually been living and dying on this planet, unable to leave it still…

Cool story…
One things for sure, we’re coming to end time but, you know what? When we’re all gone and turned to dust this big old planet will still be turning (and probably be a better place for it)

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Reads and sounds like the last wil and testament of winnie, should we be worried, it’s a big expression, is he posting to himself or his daily life in what he thinks, confusing

Bigtruck3:
Reads and sounds like the last wil and testament of winnie, should we be worried, it’s a big expression, is he posting to himself or his daily life in what he thinks, confusing

Why last will? None of this is happening to me - it’s happening to everyone else in plain sight, and no one gives a ■■■■…

If I were to speak up for only myself here - I could take an “I’m alright Jack” attitude…

Back to topic - What’s the betting that Jeremy Hunt (Wot a c—) is about to re-band everyone’s council taxes so that we all get re-banded at today’s property valuations, just before the crash about six months away, should interest rates continue to rise above 4% at this point…

Imagine… You’ve paid off your mortgage, got some savings left, no debt - only to now face TRIPLED council tax bills - that if you don’t pay with all your worldly assets denying you any “state help” and all - guess who gets the bailiffs around, and maybe even ends up in court?

I look on our roads, and wonder for the life of me how and why so many people are driving about in single occupant private cars…

They can’t all be “going to work” or “off to do some shopping”…

Busy Busy Busy - Doing WHAT? (Other than “Not Caring a jot” of course…)

If this recession doesn’t slow down the country quick enough - interest rates will continue to rise until we hit the earth with a jolt so hard - we’ll be set back half a century…

OR…

If my other theory was correct regarding China “buying less of Western Bonds, Ongoingly” - then interest rates will continue to rise until we get off China’s Mate Russia’s Back - and let Putin win his bloody war…
Every setback that Putin gets at this point - sets the entire western average citizen back - weather they’ve got debts outstanding - or not.

Another “Lockdown” isn’t out of the question - where people simply cannot afford to run cars, cannot afford to go to work, cannot afford to eat, cannot afford to stay warm in winter…

Let’s hope something else gives before we the Public - have to. :frowning:

Who are these people we’re told - just voted Democrat in an election that now approves Biden to hand over this amount of money to Ukraine on the very day we get another force-fed propaganda barage from the mainstream press?

It wasn’t Trump that required a “tiny non-event congress majority” and “no takeover of the senate” - it was this I suspect…

“We still hate Trump, and he’s not gone yet” - seems a daft reason to let the Democrats throw away everyone’s economic life in that cause’s name, surely?

“Was it Worth It”?

Where’s your sense of “Auturism” folks? :unamused:

De Santis might be able to get more votes than the Democrats in 2024, but not if Trump splits the votes to bring down the entire houses on BOTH sides…

How much longer do you think the Democrats will last - once they have the full dictatoral control of both houses they dream of?

“About as long as the rest of the world - two weeks” I reckons…