The Summer of Discontent - Begins

Rail Strikes in progress…

Supply line issues.

Picking Putin as a whipping boy one final time (sanctions have improved the Russian economy, raised the ruble, and written off Russia’s national debt - all pluses)

And we Western idiots - have voted for the very politicians that have now made all this possible.

Not “Brexit” to blame.

I blame Boris’ mad scheme to placate the Left with his very government who were voted in by gaining the support of the Right.

We could have just left Green stuff on the shelf, let Putin have his win without our interference, and done Brexit in quick order after the referendum - But no.

Now we have Keir Starmer about to stand on Picket Lines I hear…

Neither Boris nor Starmer will likely gain one single extra vote from Left OR Right acting in the way they do though!

This country hungers for the different kind of change that can only come from a total regime change right here in Britain.

How about a nation run by it’s main wealth creators, business people, and local heroes?

ENOUGH of the Career politicians already - Every damned one of them! :imp:

Reversing Brexit - which should be supposedly impossible - is now looking likelier by the hour. “Gotta go back in, to strengthen NATO don’tya know”

Reversing Ukraine’s fate at Western Expense - might be happening in spades according to the lying Western Media - but militarily - it’s loss is already a fate accompli, and Ukraine by this point - will be lucky to keep what is West of the River. The Liberal Woke Elite bits, not the Agricultural and Industrial heartlands that were not listened to this past decade.

We really have gone and cut off our collective noses to spite our faces now - haven’t we?

Even Theresa May’s answer to (likely faux flag throwdown) “Novichoc” attacks - was to carry on demolishing our power stations, rather than raise the top rate of tax, and use that money to boost our military.

Putin is supposed to be our enemy isn’t he? Can we afford such an enemy? - It sure don’t look like it!
Fertilizer, Gas, Oil, Wheat, and now even a Ruble shortage… What could possibly be any upside for the west from any of those, let alone all of them?

All Scotland can think of is Indyref2, rather than boosting their economy by becoming a huge exporter of energy
Means dropping “Not in my back yard” policies though, and Green as well, bearing in mind we have unlimited Oil and Coal around the northern parts of these Isles in particular…

Ireland? Dare we cede Ulster to the IRA-Run ringmasters now?

What happens next if we do?

What happens next if we don’t?

This country hungers for the different kind of change that can only come from a total regime change right here in Britain.
How about a nation run by it’s main wealth creators, business people, and local heroes?

Winseer, I would suggest that successive regimes here since 1920 have progressively made total change less and less feasible.
Frightened by the Russian Revolution, they passed the first laws restricting private ownership of firearms. Over the years the legislation has been made more and more restrictive and costly, with the aim (propagandised as “to increase safety”) of eliminating possession of arms by anyone but police and military.

In parallel, police and military personnel have been reduced to and even below realistic numbers, overall control has been largely handed to politically correct or ‘safe’ individuals.

The civil service/local authorities and quangos have been packed with those who are happy to enjoy fat salaries and gold-plated pensions and will resist any action that rocks their boat.

The possibility of any organised popular movement changing things has been eliminated, the ordinary individual is helpless, voting only changes the name of the winner, nothing else.

I’m sorry for future generations, even more depressing I struggle to think of a country where long-term prospects are much better.

The irony is sweet that Russia, the bedrock of the former Soviet Union, is proving the main resistance to the new world order WEF WHO and assorted Blofelds who wish to rule the world to suit themselves.

No point in voting in this country for the forseeable, arguably there hasn’t been any point in doing so for the last 2 decades or more, but people insist on voting the same as they always do, and still, after all these years watching the ruination of what this place once was, expect a different result each time.
Laugh at the lunacy of it all or cry over what could have been and the destruction that is coming, i’m fast coming to the conclusion the winos have the answer, get ■■■■■■ every day and don’t worry about it all.

I agree with Buckstones, voting the red blue orange yellow or green team into number 10 (and more worryingly number 11) makes not one scrap of difference,they will do whatever the above overlords of the western world tell them or bribe them to do or say.

Juddian:
The irony is sweet that Russia, the bedrock of the former Soviet Union, is proving the main resistance to the new world order WEF WHO and assorted Blofelds who wish to rule the world to suit themselves.

That ^^^^ struck a chord with me! I should have seen that sooner, but by God Juddian you’re only bloody right!

the maoster:

Juddian:
The irony is sweet that Russia, the bedrock of the former Soviet Union, is proving the main resistance to the new world order WEF WHO and assorted Blofelds who wish to rule the world to suit themselves.

That ^^^^ struck a chord with me! I should have seen that sooner, but by God Juddian you’re only bloody right!

Echoes of past times…
A “strong man” leader, changing constitution to suit himself, rallying religious imagery, stopping free speech in his own country, using nationalistic excuses to invade a foreign country…

twitter.com/antenafm_/status/14 … 3599122433

Yep, the “new order” of the most peaceful period in European history is over.

^^^ never one to pass up an opportunity :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Actually I’ll rethink that one my friend. I didn’t click on the link until after I’d posted (yeah I know :smiley: ) so was expecting the usual swipe at Bojo or Farage but instead saw the swipe at Putin. So I’ll amend my post thus; never one to pass up the opportunity to peddle populist propaganda! Well, with the exception of Brexit of course’cos you were on the losing side there :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Cue “we’re all losers blah blah blah”

the maoster:
peddle populist propaganda!

“I want a high wage economy”
“What! You want more pay? Think of the economy!”

I got more pay thank you despite the best efforts of you remainer Luddites :smiley: :smiley:

the maoster:

Juddian:
The irony is sweet that Russia, the bedrock of the former Soviet Union, is proving the main resistance to the new world order WEF WHO and assorted Blofelds who wish to rule the world to suit themselves.

That ^^^^ struck a chord with me! I should have seen that sooner, but by God Juddian you’re only bloody right!

It was said of Brexit “Putin wants Brexit - therefore this is the main reason for us NOT to want it”.

It was said “Brexit would weaken NATO”.

Nope. I disagree. NATO was weakened by the collapse of the Soviet Union.
At that time, Yeltzin’s Russia was on it’s collective knees, defaulting on it’s foreign debt, and it’s citizens burning their own furniture to keep warm across the next harsh winter(s).

Putin has also been described as a “Making Russia Great Again” leader, which smacks of trying to compare him to Trump in the usual negative way, not to mention declaring Putin of the Right rather than the Left/Communist/New World Order bent.

The difference that Putin has made over the past 20 years since he’s been in effective total control of his own country - is just that though. He HAS made Russia great again - hasn’t he?

He’s implemted the results of a referendum in Dombass region with the efficiancy that only an Autocrat’s method can achieve.

The West, rather than put boots on the ground with their bloated, overstaffed, and over influencial NATO could achieve - have decided to go to a mere Lies and Propaganda war instead, hoping (and succeeding?) in painting this picture of Putin as the “Next Hitler” as the link above suggests he now is…

We’re all forgetting one thing though:

We are assuming we’ve been told the TRUTH about stuff. Not just Russia and Ukraine - but the whole damned world politik right now… Everything!

Pick apart a lie here and there, and add them all together - and the answer isn’t the same conclusion that the Western rulers would have us believe.

For example, I don’t think Putin is hell-bent on the “Conquest of the world” for example. If he were going to attempt such, he would have surely assassinated all the western leaders as they’ve been coming and going from the Ukrainian’s government-in-exile venue (which I doubt is “Kiev” btw)

Surely also, Putin would have also taken over the entire country using his ally Belarus by this point as well?

Belarus - is there to act as “No Fly Buffer” in that NATO cannot stick anti-aircraft units there - without them getting attacked by Belarus’ forces, as would befit an actual invasion by NATO that this would represent.

Ditto TURKEY - supposedly a NATO member that has refused to go to war in the Black Sea on NATO’s orders… because Erdogan too - happens to be an Autocrat who cares for his country, rather than a compromised liberal who’s alcohol you woudn’t drink at his poorly organzized ■■■■-up in a brewery, because it would be tainted with Methanol just to get rid of all those who turned up…

Anyone who can and should go up against the “New World Order” - needs to start and continue AS an autocrat, rather than wasting all their country’s energies on stopping such an “Autocrat” in their tracks, as our once-hero-of-the-Right Boris Johnson has managed to achieve, clearly labelling him as part of the problem, rather than part of the solution.

Putin - we cannot afford to have as our enemy, as our forthcoming economic collapse here in the west - has already proven.

We’ve not even had the fallout yet as to those western banks that have donked away their casino bets shorting the Ruble when the west of the world, mainly EASTern - clearly thinks, demonstrates, and shows otherwise.

They’ve lied, they’ve cheated, they’ve plotted… But the West have yet to motivate their citizens to do the one thing that might have actually worked to combat Putin, right or wrong: COMBAT.

With Hitler - it was fairly simple:
The guy was a complete nutter with an axe to grind, rather than the level-headed chess player that can think four-dimensionally, let alone “ouside-the-box” like Western leaders do, forever electioneering, and taking chances only with their political futures, rather than their very lives each and every day.
There cannot be many other leaders of note in the world today that are not living under the proverbial “Sword of Damocles” eh?

It isn’t Boris, Macron, Biden, or any other lesser faction that have made the slightest bit of difference though.

France now has a parliament of Hard Left vs Hard Right rather than the liberal centerist majority bloc that Macron (and his deep state backers) were hoping for.

Meanwhile, back here in blighty - we’re not bothered about “Immigration” nor “Brexit” nor “Left and Right” any more - are we?

“Putting food on the table” and “keeping the lights on” USED to be about earning enough to buy that food, and pay those energy bills…

But now?

Where’s the Rage? Where’s it BEEN up until now…

A de facto second FULL lockdown - is seemingly upon us.

There’s no job security any more, we’ve got the Bank of England bullying workers into submission with “threats of further rising interest rates” if Unions don’t accept below-inflation pay rounds…
Why should they? Why should WE?

The old “Winter of Discontent” back in 1979 - involved the Truckers, in particular the tanker drivers.
It’s all there in the history of the period, but it doesn’t get pushed to the forefront by those who would want you to pay attention to the narrative, that “Thatcher wouldn’t have got in” without it.

I agree with Buckstones above that moves have been made since WWI to prevent real change in this country.
I think their game is up though, and the world players - have thrown the kitchen sink at their selfish hidden agendas - for the last time.

In any case, I’m not talking about the traditional violent, armed revolution here:
I’m simply talking about what America tried to do in 2016 but got knocked back by yet another “kitchen sink lob” by the powers that refuse to step down.

Trump - was about doing what it said on the tin. “Can’t have THAT can we?” - the deep state cried!

It would be good of the entire world to stop listening to the elitist crowd, and listen rather more to the people that are NOT politicians, but try and fail every time to eke out a single seat in our parliaments.

Such energies put into refusing such “upstarts” their single seats, like they allowed the Greens to get and hold (because Green DOES suit their agenda)

The only way for this country to do this peacefully now - is to vote for anyone and everyone NOT the main three parties on our ballot papers. Let’s do it peacefully, and give the powers the right drubbing the so rightfully deserve, before it’s too late.

Boris - has already written off the forthcoming by-elections, and Tory back benchers are plotting to find another way to remove him, now that “rules” state he cannot face another “No Confidence” motion within a year now.

And yet Starmer - who says he’s going to stand on picket lines… Tries to be NOT Boris (for a change!) and take Labour into the old direction, which will just further exclude them from future government imo.

Lefties - don’t waste your votes on Labour -
find another party.
START another party.
Not “Nationalist Socialist”, which our Tories seem to be helping out no end in Ukraine…

Right Wingers? - If that new fancy Left party is “Make Britain Great Again” enough - people like me will vote for you!

Keir Starmer has an opportunity to win over the entire country’s Brexiteers and Right here… But I suspect he’ll fail because he’s Sir Keir, rather than succeed because he’s full of Corbyn’s ideas, and surrounds himself with people that can implement them, rather than threaten us with them…

How about some kind of Imperial party, where anyone can rise, no matter how low-born they were… Anyone can get on, from all far reaches of what used to be called the commonwealth - the source for quality immigrants to this country, and sadly unrecognized until now. No more “Third World” interests, we make an “Egalitarian” declaration that any nation who wants to send it’s citizens over here in boats - has the option of becoming our citizens - by joining (or REjoining) us.

Law and Order - the old fashioned ways. Capital Punishment for only the most heinous of crimes, when elected for by a 12:0 jury to act as “Check and balance”.
Infrastructure rebuilding programmes that are at the very heart of what made the British Empire great, NOT the slavery, NOT the poor H&S, NOT the over-stated harsh punishments that brainwash the public into thinking that “Imperialism” didn’t work when it clearly did.

Do we let British Imperialism stay in it’s grave, put there by two world wars in the same lifetime?

…Or should we consider a new brand of “Anti Globalist” imperialism that is a United Empires of the World?

Should we join Russia, China, Egypt, India, Brazil and other countries in forging out that new world, doing what’s best for people everywhere, rather than letting a few lying elites have their way every time?

We are getting poorer by the hour now - because we’ve made the proverbial K-KB3? duff opening move on the world stage, with Putin only needing to carry on conventially to continue bringing more hardship to all of us…

Crop failures - not enough fertilizer.
No more EU food mountains to buy from - Ukraine has a HUGE agricultural output - that is now going on the backs of trucks into deeper Russia.
Banking failures - who knows how much they lost doing their “Casino Banking” think shorting the Ruble only for it to climb to decade highs now against ALL currencies?

Job Losses - we will be better insulated than most folks in our profession, but I can see a deflationary crash ahead, where money is worth MORE than the inflation lie that suggests it’ll be worth less…

In my mind, this “Fake Inflation” is just being touted to get us all to spend what is left of our already-depleted savings…

…taking away everyone’s SAVINGS - is like disarming the average German Citizen shortly after Hitler came to power.

You can’t say to a person with savings “Take this crappy job, or you and your family will starve, as we now control the food supply!”

People who fear inflation - go on a spending spree whilst they still can. They think their £50,000 in the bank - won’t buy a box of matches by Christmas… Oh yeh?

In a DEflationary economy - money is worth more, but no one has got any!

Hoard everything then, I would humbly suggest.

Your job - is only as good as your legal contract of employment says it is.
The Rail workers - are likely to find out in short order - that “contracts” can be BROKEN however.

40 years since the miners tried and failed to bring down Thatcher’s Tories…
I don’t think the RMT stand a chance of getting anything more out of Boris Johnson by the end of this, other than a promise from him to “Step down in the autumn of next year” at which point he can run off with his full five year pension rights…

There’s NOT going to be an election this year OR next folks. Boris would not DARE!

Think: 1994. That year saw a sharply rising housing market, a resumed Grand National after the lost one the year before… and the rising of Blair, who took over Labour after the untimely demise of John Smith RIP.

Recession - but we couldn’t get rid of Major’s Tories for another THREE years at that point.
Thus, I suspect it is now: We’re stuck with Boris for another year at least, and the Tories will have plenty of time to pick a new leader before (as it stands) losing the 2024 general election, most likely to be held in the Autumn unless the Tories can pull a rabbit out of the hat by then… I don’t think they can this time folks! :frowning:

They’ve had over a decade to become the Government of the Right we OF the Right thought we elected.

Sick of “Green”, Sick of “Politican Correctness”, Sick of “Elitism”, sick of “Diversity is a Strength”, sick of the ESTABLISHMENT of which Labour, Tory, and Liberal - are still all part, alas.

Winseer:

the maoster:

Juddian:
The irony is sweet that Russia, the bedrock of the former Soviet Union, is proving the main resistance to the new world order WEF WHO and assorted Blofelds who wish to rule the world to suit themselves.

That ^^^^ struck a chord with me! I should have seen that sooner, but by God Juddian you’re only bloody right!

It was said of Brexit “Putin wants Brexit - therefore this is the main reason for us NOT to want it”.

It was said “Brexit would weaken NATO”.

Nope. I disagree. NATO was weakened by the collapse of the Soviet Union.
At that time, Yeltzin’s Russia was on it’s collective knees, defaulting on it’s foreign debt, and it’s citizens burning their own furniture to keep warm across the next harsh winter(s).

Putin has also been described as a “Making Russia Great Again” leader, which smacks of trying to compare him to Trump in the usual negative way, not to mention declaring Putin of the Right rather than the Left/Communist/New World Order bent.

The difference that Putin has made over the past 20 years since he’s been in effective total control of his own country - is just that though. He HAS made Russia great again - hasn’t he?

He’s implemted the results of a referendum in Dombass region with the efficiancy that only an Autocrat’s method can achieve.

The West, rather than put boots on the ground with their bloated, overstaffed, and over influencial NATO could achieve - have decided to go to a mere Lies and Propaganda war instead, hoping (and succeeding?) in painting this picture of Putin as the “Next Hitler” as the link above suggests he now is…

We’re all forgetting one thing though:

We are assuming we’ve been told the TRUTH about stuff. Not just Russia and Ukraine - but the whole damned world politik right now… Everything!

Pick apart a lie here and there, and add them all together - and the answer isn’t the same conclusion that the Western rulers would have us believe.

For example, I don’t think Putin is hell-bent on the “Conquest of the world” for example. If he were going to attempt such, he would have surely assassinated all the western leaders as they’ve been coming and going from the Ukrainian’s government-in-exile venue (which I doubt is “Kiev” btw)

Surely also, Putin would have also taken over the entire country using his ally Belarus by this point as well?

Belarus - is there to act as “No Fly Buffer” in that NATO cannot stick anti-aircraft units there - without them getting attacked by Belarus’ forces, as would befit an actual invasion by NATO that this would represent.

Ditto TURKEY - supposedly a NATO member that has refused to go to war in the Black Sea on NATO’s orders… because Erdogan too - happens to be an Autocrat who cares for his country, rather than a compromised liberal who’s alcohol you woudn’t drink at his poorly organzized ■■■■-up in a brewery, because it would be tainted with Methanol just to get rid of all those who turned up…

The Machiavellian Massacre – Mass Murder in the Italian Wars

Anyone who can and should go up against the “New World Order” - needs to start and continue AS an autocrat, rather than wasting all their country’s energies on stopping such an “Autocrat” in their tracks, as our once-hero-of-the-Right Boris Johnson has managed to achieve, clearly labelling him as part of the problem, rather than part of the solution.

Putin - we cannot afford to have as our enemy, as our forthcoming economic collapse here in the west - has already proven.

We’ve not even had the fallout yet as to those western banks that have donked away their casino bets shorting the Ruble when the west of the world, mainly EASTern - clearly thinks, demonstrates, and shows otherwise.

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They’ve lied, they’ve cheated, they’ve plotted… But the West have yet to motivate their citizens to do the one thing that might have actually worked to combat Putin, right or wrong: COMBAT.

With Hitler - it was fairly simple:
The guy was a complete nutter with an axe to grind, rather than the level-headed chess player that can think four-dimensionally, let alone “ouside-the-box” like Western leaders do, forever electioneering, and taking chances only with their political futures, rather than their very lives each and every day.
There cannot be many other leaders of note in the world today that are not living under the proverbial “Sword of Damocles” eh?

It isn’t Boris, Macron, Biden, or any other lesser faction that have made the slightest bit of difference though.

France now has a parliament of Hard Left vs Hard Right rather than the liberal centerist majority bloc that Macron (and his deep state backers) were hoping for.

Meanwhile, back here in blighty - we’re not bothered about “Immigration” nor “Brexit” nor “Left and Right” any more - are we?

“Putting food on the table” and “keeping the lights on” USED to be about earning enough to buy that food, and pay those energy bills…

But now?

Where’s the Rage? Where’s it BEEN up until now…

A de facto second FULL lockdown - is seemingly upon us.
Rail and Tube strikes; Return of Ghost Town Britain during worst biggest rail strike for 30 years | Daily Mail Online

There’s no job security any more, we’ve got the Bank of England bullying workers into submission with “threats of further rising interest rates” if Unions don’t accept below-inflation pay rounds…
Why should they? Why should WE?

The old “Winter of Discontent” back in 1979 - involved the Truckers, in particular the tanker drivers.
It’s all there in the history of the period, but it doesn’t get pushed to the forefront by those who would want you to pay attention to the narrative, that “Thatcher wouldn’t have got in” without it.

I agree with Buckstones above that moves have been made since WWI to prevent real change in this country.
I think their game is up though, and the world players - have thrown the kitchen sink at their selfish hidden agendas - for the last time.

In any case, I’m not talking about the traditional violent, armed revolution here:
I’m simply talking about what America tried to do in 2016 but got knocked back by yet another “kitchen sink lob” by the powers that refuse to step down.

Trump - was about doing what it said on the tin. “Can’t have THAT can we?” - the deep state cried!

It would be good of the entire world to stop listening to the elitist crowd, and listen rather more to the people that are NOT politicians, but try and fail every time to eke out a single seat in our parliaments.

Such energies put into refusing such “upstarts” their single seats, like they allowed the Greens to get and hold (because Green DOES suit their agenda)

The only way for this country to do this peacefully now - is to vote for anyone and everyone NOT the main three parties on our ballot papers. Let’s do it peacefully, and give the powers the right drubbing the so rightfully deserve, before it’s too late.

Boris - has already written off the forthcoming by-elections, and Tory back benchers are plotting to find another way to remove him, now that “rules” state he cannot face another “No Confidence” motion within a year now.

And yet Starmer - who says he’s going to stand on picket lines… Tries to be NOT Boris (for a change!) and take Labour into the old direction, which will just further exclude them from future government imo.

Lefties - don’t waste your votes on Labour -
find another party.
START another party.
Not “Nationalist Socialist”, which our Tories seem to be helping out no end in Ukraine…

Right Wingers? - If that new fancy Left party is “Make Britain Great Again” enough - people like me will vote for you!

Keir Starmer has an opportunity to win over the entire country’s Brexiteers and Right here… But I suspect he’ll fail because he’s Sir Keir, rather than succeed because he’s full of Corbyn’s ideas, and surrounds himself with people that can implement them, rather than threaten us with them…

How about some kind of Imperial party, where anyone can rise, no matter how low-born they were… Anyone can get on, from all far reaches of what used to be called the commonwealth - the source for quality immigrants to this country, and sadly unrecognized until now. No more “Third World” interests, we make an “Egalitarian” declaration that any nation who wants to send it’s citizens over here in boats - has the option of becoming our citizens - by joining (or REjoining) us.

Law and Order - the old fashioned ways. Capital Punishment for only the most heinous of crimes, when elected for by a 12:0 jury to act as “Check and balance”.
Infrastructure rebuilding programmes that are at the very heart of what made the British Empire great, NOT the slavery, NOT the poor H&S, NOT the over-stated harsh punishments that brainwash the public into thinking that “Imperialism” didn’t work when it clearly did.

Do we let British Imperialism stay in it’s grave, put there by two world wars in the same lifetime?

…Or should we consider a new brand of “Anti Globalist” imperialism that is a United Empires of the World?

Should we join Russia, China, Egypt, India, Brazil and other countries in forging out that new world, doing what’s best for people everywhere, rather than letting a few lying elites have their way every time?
Ukraine has a HUGE agricultural output - that is now going on the backs of trucks into deeper Russia.

What’s the difference between a so called United empires of the world and globalism.
Russia is China’s main ally.
Putin is a loyal Communist who served the Soviet Union at a high level.
Yep Ukraine’s grain exports can now get to its main and largest market China even easier now via Russia than under Zalensky also a Chinese puppet.
While the west’s ( globalists’ ) foreign policy is also based on political and economic appeasement of Putin’s main ally China.
While NATO is clearly weaker because of the change in US defence policy from mutually assured destruction to prancing around on Russia’s borders with conventional weapons obviously also increasing the threat level in Russia’s view.
In the knowledge that Russia is too big to defeat conventionally and it would have nuked us anyway if it did think it was going to lose a war.
You seem to be confused Winseer.
Whatever is going on it’s all to do with agenda 30 which is all about a global system ruled by China.Somehow this mess all ties in with it.
To the point where Biden, Bozo, Zalensky, and Putin are running a false flag strategy eventually providing the pretext for our surrender.
Which would probably look like exactly what you’ve described by definition a Communist system run by Communist Russia and China with some big kick backs to the Soroses and Gates of this world.

To add to the question of false flag pretexts.The EU, NATO and Russia seem to be creating a non existent crisis over a supposed EU land blockade of goods travelling between Russia and Kaliningrad.When the place has a massive ice free sea port.

the maoster:

Juddian:
The irony is sweet that Russia, the bedrock of the former Soviet Union, is proving the main resistance to the new world order WEF WHO and assorted Blofelds who wish to rule the world to suit themselves.

That ^^^^ struck a chord with me! I should have seen that sooner, but by God Juddian you’re only bloody right!

Not often right it has to be said :blush:

Whatever else is said about Putin, you can’t deny he’s a patriot and like another bloke ‘they’ hated hysterically, wants what’s best for his country and people, i’ll never criticise anyone for that.

Juddian:

the maoster:

Juddian:
The irony is sweet that Russia, the bedrock of the former Soviet Union, is proving the main resistance to the new world order WEF WHO and assorted Blofelds who wish to rule the world to suit themselves.

That ^^^^ struck a chord with me! I should have seen that sooner, but by God Juddian you’re only bloody right!

Not often right it has to be said :blush:

Whatever else is said about Putin, you can’t deny he’s a patriot and like another bloke ‘they’ hated hysterically, wants what’s best for his country and people, i’ll never criticise anyone for that.

It depends if you think that a former KGB officer jumping into bed with raving Chinese Communists, the same Communists that like Zalensky we’ve also sold out to, is good for any country and the idea of national borders.
The truth is they are all doing what’s good for the Chinese Communist world ■■■■■■■■■■ agenda.Including Putin.
This wierd WW3 zb is a diversion and/or the pretext that Bozo and Biden will eventually use to sell us out when it all predictably goes horribly wrong.
No one with any military sense would want to serve up our forces on a plate on a front stretching from the Baltic to the Black sea.
Or bet that the US won’t fight to the last UK city if/when the nukes start flying.

Carryfast:
To add to the question of false flag pretexts.The EU, NATO and Russia seem to be creating a non existent crisis over a supposed EU land blockade of goods travelling between Russia and Kaliningrad.When the place has a massive ice free sea port.

What happens if Russia now decides to arbitrarily enlarge it’s Kaliningrad “border” so that the shipping lanes of NATO members - now fall inside that border?

Won’t that be the same old story again similar to the “Dombass Declaration of Independence”?

I’m not talking about any “Land Grab” here though.
I’m talking about the border being entirely expanded in the SEA, say, to the waters due north of Gdansk…

Trouble is, Gdasnk is kinda Polish, and that would effectively then be a permanent “sea border” blockade against traffic coming and going from the Port of Gdansk…

Don’t forget that Putin could enforce any such “blockade” with his rather large sub fleet as well…

Indeed, as a “Chess Move”, Putin need only get Nato members to declare that this “Lithuanian blockade isn’t any such thing, because it involves transport links outside of Russian territory” - which then plays right into Putin’s card draw of declaring the sea north of Gdansk as “Kalinograd Waters” thereby giving him exactly the same rights as Lithuania has blockading Kaliningrad to “blockade Gdansk”, and likely the ports of Liepaja in Latvia and Klaipeda in Lithuania as well.

Kinda makes this simulation/scenario - a bit more relevant now - doesn’t it?

The way I see it is that NATO are currently over-reacting to Putin’s moves, as Putin has yet to attack a NATO member directly.
NATO however, have very openly attacked Russian forces, killing hundreds if not thousands with their “donated” fancy weaponry, all the while “British” captured soldiers, technically “unlawful combatants” under EU laws - are going to face execution because their “country” cannot openly admit to their fighting for this undeclared war that now goes on between NATO forces and Russians, regardless of what motives Russia has in Ukraine.

Imagine if back in 1939 Chaimberlain at his “war declaration” point, decided that as we’re not an Empire any longer, we cannot possibly go to war against the new upcoming superpower that has already taken over the whole of Europe…
Germany offered Britain a peace after the Dunkirk evacuations… Which was thrown back in their faces, and arguably rightly so, as Britain was a formidable force at the time, unlike today…

NATO members have jointly thrown away their entire economies - based on the notion that “We can win a nuclear war against Russia”. Total poppycock of course, but they feel the need to justify their ongoing existance beyond the dissolution of the Soviet Union three decades back…

Fertilizer shortages combined with insect population collapse - will see famine upon us in short order as well, I predict.
It isn’t all about Gas and Oil, which can be sourced from other places, and at the end of the day “doesn’t matter if it gets delivered a week or two late”…

Try saying the same about food though.

China - is in even WORSE shape, not having enough WATER for it’s thirsty population.
Indeed, China might be the best-defended nation on the planet - but it’s ability to send OUT that fighting force on “conquest” expeditions - can be brought to an abrupt halt by disrupting the main water supply import that China manages - by importing those foodstuffs that rely heavily on what they don’t have… Crop growing capacity, such as now been annexed by Putin in Eastern former Ukraine… A food embargo against China - would cause the starvation of 9-10 figures of the Chinese population, at which point they’d likely cave in, and go on an all-out massive expansion drive to acquire “foreign Crop Growing Facillities” like Putin just has… !!! That would involve an invasion of CALIFORNIA I would suggest, as an opening gambit of any forthcoming Chinese aggression, now firmly in bed with Putin’s Russia, thanks to decripit NATO thinking they could win this on bulls hit and unlimited funding alone

NATO are not going to win this one, unless they provoke and achieve a full nuculear exchange, which alas we mortal western plebs - neither voted for, not wanted compared to the choice of “Let’s get out of Paris accord before it breaks our economy” prior to “Let’s not bother with Ukraine, and cut them loose”. - they are not our allies like Poland were in 1939, and we cannot afford to go to war with a country that has us “covered” many times over for nuclear annihilation. :frowning:

My main reason for turning against Boris Johnson - are these two reasons stated above:

I’m stick of the way “Green Agenda” is ruining our economy, shielded by the lockdown, likely a manufactured crisis to cover the tracks of this wider agenda that involves the death of a quarter and a third of the world’s population, as foretold.
It doesn’t matter if you believe it or not. If you’re one of the billions of victims that “don’t make the cut” - then you won’t be able to gloat over “surviving because you didn’t believe in it”.

It’s a Noah’s Ark moment: Those preparing “get laughed out of the room”, and come banging on the door when those same multitudes realize that they got this wrong after all.

I would suggest to people that they stockpile stable food supplies, Eg. Tins.
There’s no point having an allotment growing “potatoes” that we cannot afford to boil in a pot any longer, because Stoves make that meal cost more than the ingredients FFS…

Juddian:

the maoster:

Juddian:
The irony is sweet that Russia, the bedrock of the former Soviet Union, is proving the main resistance to the new world order WEF WHO and assorted Blofelds who wish to rule the world to suit themselves.

That ^^^^ struck a chord with me! I should have seen that sooner, but by God Juddian you’re only bloody right!

Not often right it has to be said :blush:

Whatever else is said about Putin, you can’t deny he’s a patriot and like another bloke ‘they’ hated hysterically, wants what’s best for his country and people, i’ll never criticise anyone for that.

I’d go as far to say that Putin has become what the Western World’s Right thought they voted for, and never actually got from their elected “leaders”…

Autocrat
Make ****** Great again agenda
A lot richer than they outwardly give the appearence of
Getting quietly richer by the hour, not just by making vast profits from the sale of resources which you own in abundance, but also dumping national debts into the pockets of the international banking “industry” to have and to hold…

Putin has already used this “crisis” as a way of walking away from all that national debt, already exports Wheat to plenty of starving worldsters who cannot afford to “starve to let NATO have their way with their stupid embargos”.

Finally, we’ve seen this “Feint” on the battlefield that Putin sending in his “Pawns”, raw recruits on national service - not only gives the impression to the west that “Russia are beatable” but also “Russia cannot win”. Strange how NATO is still too chicken to outright attack Putin’s forces weapon v weapon though, rather than all this dishonest “phony war” propaganda and proxy battlefield weapons…

When the smoke clears, I would expect that one way or the other - the world’s center of power will have shifted decidedly EAST. It matters not if there is WWIII or not. Just that the rule of old-fashioned Eastern ways will ride roughshod over the Woke, Politically Correct, Genetically Weakened, Crushed Dissentor, and funded entirely by debt that can only continue whilst China still buys it…

Once our collective economies are on their knees, we’ll go back to being a cash society like in the 1930’s. Money will buy MORE rather than less, because no one has any, and there’s now a shortage. Professional drivers to be chauffeurs to the gangsters like they were in the 1930’s as well, I suspect… It’s either that, or “Sorry bud, no work for you”.

The saddest thing is, that it has all happened before.
“Those who refuse to learn from history - are doomed to repeat it”.

THIS time though? We don’t have a good stock of Right-leaning youngsters keen to “do their bit” against the Nationalist Socialist threat. We have a handful of people that want to go over there to be executed as unlawful combatants, but we have NO one over here, I suspect who wants to go and fight Putin’s спецназ forces in an actual, honest, and open WWIII.

Let’s see how that looks in the “battle simulator”. :stuck_out_tongue:

Right doesn’t go to war with Right.
Right will go to war with Far Left described as Far Right though…

Heinrich Himmler was but a hard-line beurocrat with absolutely zero military serivice prior to the job Hitler appointed him to.
Ruthlessly effecient at Unionized, Industrialized Mass Murder of Millions. When THIS beurocracy cocked-up, it might release people about to be exterminated, unlike the wasting showers we have in our de facto “corridors of power” these days, who’ll do any amount of harm providing they get rewarded rather than punished for their errors and sins.

True, Proper, Patriot Far RIGHT people on the other hand, you’d expect to be Germans like Manfred Von Richthoffen
Efficient in Battle, respectful at other times. Not there to kill for killing’s sake, but to achieve a wider objective.

There’s a stark difference between Far Left pretending to be far Right, and the actual far Right we’re taught to be “more afraid of”.

There always has been during our lifetimes alas, more’s the pity.

Things were better when I was school kid in the '70’s.
Hindsight tells me it was only because I was a school kid that I thought they were!

We just need Yuill & Dodds to get some ballasted 8 wheel Scanias with rail wheels on now to do a bit of strike busting.

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Munchkin:
Things were better when I was school kid in the '70’s.
Hindsight tells me it was only because I was a school kid that I thought they were!

We just need Yuill & Dodds to get some ballasted 8 wheel Scanias with rail wheels on now to do a bit of strike busting.

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I remember the “Cutbacks” in the late 70’s to grammar schools, and the push to over-fund “comps”.

Two or three of us “sharing a book” was commonplace.

Knackered old kit in classrooms

Having to pay for Milk

School dinners that ceased being edible, in particuar the stuff that should have been made with Milk being made with Water instead.