Blimey! has anyone read about the proposed changes to road user taxation & even car insurance? 
Proper big brother wanting to know where, why, when you drive, what emissions of the vehicle you’;re driving, the occupancy of the vehicle, …Want to drive around in a 2 ton car with just the driver onboard! Oooo! that’s not very environmentally friendly mate, that’s going to cost you.
"Baroness Brown responded: ‘[Road user charging] is something we were keen on back in the King Review (2007). We were very keen to propose replacing taxes associated with driving with a time, distance, place, emissions, occupancy [charge] – whatever you like now because we can so easily monitor these things. It could be an enormously fair way to treat people.
‘It seems to me that you can have a system that takes emissions into account and that would be fairer to everyone. We are now seeing the insurance companies looking at having this system for charging you based on how and where and when you drive. So this kind of monitoring is coming. At the time of the King review, people were shocked by the idea of the intrusion in privacy, but I think we have moved an awful long way to thinking some of these ideas might be acceptable."
transport-network.co.uk/Roa … says/17257
Coming up with this sort of utopian bullshine beats the hell out of days work, not as half of these people could manage a days graft.
Love the pie in the sky numbers of charging points needed, haven’t the plebs sussed out yet they/we ain’t part of their great future plan, they plainly state you will own nothing and be happy, sometimes they break their own rules and tell the truth, Klaus big gob let the cat out of the bag.
Juddian:
Coming up with this sort of utopian bullshine beats the hell out of days work, not as half of these people could manage a days graft.
Love the pie in the sky numbers of charging points needed, haven’t the plebs sussed out yet they/we ain’t part of their great future plan, they plainly state you will own nothing and be happy, sometimes they break their own rules and tell the truth, Klaus big gob let the cat out of the bag.
Again I find myself agreeing with you… This project really seems to be yet another move to the absolute big brother nayion. George Orwell was a visionary genius!
All part of the agenda 30 Versailles type surrender document.As I said it’s all about ending the premise on the freedom to travel as and where and how we choose.It’s anything but ‘road user charging’.
How much are they going to charge me for single occupancy 6.0 V12 Jag return trip to Sardinia/Sicily/Croatia. 
Carryfast:
All part of the agenda 30 Versailles type surrender document.As I said it’s all about ending the premise on the freedom to travel as and where and how we choose.It’s anything but ‘road user charging’.
How much are they going to charge me for single occupancy 6.0 V12 Jag return trip to Sardinia/Sicily/Croatia.
Once you have crossed the channel I imagine it would be zero, no?
The goalposts are moving again & I should imagine most towns & cities will be fast tracked for CAZ’s. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56807520
Dipster:
Carryfast:
All part of the agenda 30 Versailles type surrender document.As I said it’s all about ending the premise on the freedom to travel as and where and how we choose.It’s anything but ‘road user charging’.
How much are they going to charge me for single occupancy 6.0 V12 Jag return trip to Sardinia/Sicily/Croatia.
Once you have crossed the channel I imagine it would be zero, no?
That’s ok then I’m less than 80 miles from Dover.What could possibly go wrong the Jag’s bullet proof by that logic. 
Not so good for the ■■■■■■■■ and Scottish tourist industry though. 
lancpudn:
The goalposts are moving again & I should imagine most towns & cities will be fast tracked for CAZ’s. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56807520
Prepare to see an exodus flooding out of the towns and price collapse of housing and increase in prices out of town.
The Champagne Socialists will suddenly wake up when they have to give up the BMW X5 and the place in the Cotswolds is off by order at least for anyone who isn’t part of running the regime.It’s obvious that this nightmare utopia ain’t going to work without the wholesale removal of the freedom to travel and where we choose to live.
lancpudn:
The goalposts are moving again & I should imagine most towns & cities will be fast tracked for CAZ’s. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56807520
I rather think that things will change before too long.
But I doubt that this administration will actually so much. Johnson is definitely one to make promises and commitments but rather lax on delivering any thing useful.
He seems to confuse an ambition with a plan. (Saying “I want to score a goal” is different to saying “I want to dribble past a defender, dummy the keeper and kick the ball into the net”.)
Franglais:
lancpudn:
The goalposts are moving again & I should imagine most towns & cities will be fast tracked for CAZ’s. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56807520
I rather think that things will change before too long.
But I doubt that this administration will actually so much. Johnson is definitely one to make promises and commitments but rather lax on delivering any thing useful.
He seems to confuse an ambition with a plan. (Saying “I want to score a goal” is different to saying “I want to dribble past a defender, dummy the keeper and kick the ball into the net”.)
You protest way too much.
He’s one of yours or he’s a bleedin good actor but when it comes to it this isn’t a Commie zb hole and we rightly like our freedoms and toys and the government knows it.
Which you want us to give up to be ruled by a bunch of Commie despots intent on turning us into a nuclear polluted treeless wasteland.
Under permanent effective ‘lockdown’ using either a manufactured ‘virus’ or non existent global warming as a cover story.
Do you really think that anyone wants to live in your laughably regulated nuclear fuelled utopia.
lancpudn:
The goalposts are moving again & I should imagine most towns & cities will be fast tracked for CAZ’s. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56807520
The tougher EU climate deal has been rubber stamped cutting emissions by 2030 from 40% to 55% mail.com/int/scitech/news/1 … ge-hero1-1
lancpudn:
lancpudn:
The goalposts are moving again & I should imagine most towns & cities will be fast tracked for CAZ’s. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56807520
The tougher EU climate deal has been rubber stamped cutting emissions by 2030 from 40% to 55% mail.com/int/scitech/news/1 … ge-hero1-1
Is this now the beginning of the end of the Petrodollar? bbc.co.uk/news/live/science … t-56842632
And if any of you lot that think the second hand car market will be a lucrative business when leccy vehicles come more into production,think again.
Talk is the tax will be sky high,petrol/diesel even more and banned from city centre’s,basically it won’t be worth having an oldish car.
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