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Postby lancpudn » Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:37 pm

I found out something else today! Being a keen gardener with a passion for growing tomatoes,aubergines,chillis, bell peppers in my two greenhouses I found out peat compost is being phased out from this year, Between 2022-2024 Peat Free compost will only be available and lots of retailers have already stopped selling it.
I've just been to load the car up with 75ltr bags of the good stuff before it disappears from my local retailer. :)
All to do with the Net Zero climate change policy the UK is signed up to, 250000 hectres of UK peat land will have to be restored by 2030 apparently. :shock:
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Re: Bagged Compost.

Postby blue estate » Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:26 pm

lancpudn wrote:I found out something else today! Being a keen gardener with a passion for growing tomatoes,aubergines,chillis, bell peppers in my two greenhouses I found out peat compost is being phased out from this year, Between 2022-2024 Peat Free compost will only be available and lots of retailers have already stopped selling it.
I've just been to load the car up with 75ltr bags of the good stuff before it disappears from my local retailer. :)
All to do with the Net Zero climate change policy the UK is signed up to, 250000 hectres of UK peat land will have to be restored by 2030 apparently. :shock:

That will be a lot of people out of work around Street and Glastonbury in Somerset as there’s at least 3 compost places there
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Re: Bagged Compost.

Postby Carryfast » Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:43 pm

More like removing another potential alternative fuel source to create their all electric captive market.
How does peat thrown on the garden add to CO2.
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Re: Bagged Compost.

Postby Juddian » Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:50 pm

S'ok people in such jobs arn't important in the planned utopia, they'll own nothing and be happy just like comrade Klaus and his disciples have planned, this net zero bollocks is going to have all sorts of repercussions, thankfully most of the effects won't matter to the more equal...until the money runs out and the pitchforks get sharpened.

Thanks for the tip though.
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Re: Bagged Compost.

Postby Franglais » Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:03 pm

blue estate wrote:
lancpudn wrote:I found out something else today! Being a keen gardener with a passion for growing tomatoes,aubergines,chillis, bell peppers in my two greenhouses I found out peat compost is being phased out from this year, Between 2022-2024 Peat Free compost will only be available and lots of retailers have already stopped selling it.
I've just been to load the car up with 75ltr bags of the good stuff before it disappears from my local retailer. :)
All to do with the Net Zero climate change policy the UK is signed up to, 250000 hectres of UK peat land will have to be restored by 2030 apparently. :shock:

That will be a lot of people out of work around Street and Glastonbury in Somerset as there’s at least 3 compost places there


Are there many peat bogs around Street or Glastonbury?
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Re: Bagged Compost.

Postby Carryfast » Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:47 pm

Franglais wrote:
Are there many peat bogs around Street or Glastonbury?


I guess it means peat compost manufacturing.Not peat mining.
If it's not being burnt how does it create CO2.
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Re: Bagged Compost.

Postby lancpudn » Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:51 pm

Franglais wrote:
blue estate wrote:
lancpudn wrote:I found out something else today! Being a keen gardener with a passion for growing tomatoes,aubergines,chillis, bell peppers in my two greenhouses I found out peat compost is being phased out from this year, Between 2022-2024 Peat Free compost will only be available and lots of retailers have already stopped selling it.
I've just been to load the car up with 75ltr bags of the good stuff before it disappears from my local retailer. :)
All to do with the Net Zero climate change policy the UK is signed up to, 250000 hectres of UK peat land will have to be restored by 2030 apparently. :shock:

That will be a lot of people out of work around Street and Glastonbury in Somerset as there’s at least 3 compost places there


Are there many peat bogs around Street or Glastonbury?



The report I read from May 21 didn't really name specific areas of the UK. I'll try to find the latest one I read on my other desktop PC later.
https://www.edie.net/news/11/Trees--pea ... ls-in-law/

"Also published today is the England Peat Action Plan. Like the England Trees Action Plan, it will be financed through the Nature for Climate Fund, to the tune of £50m between now and 2024.

A key commitment of the Plan is to ban the sale of peat products, including compost, by May 2024. A consultation will launch later this year to determine the specifics of the phase-out. Several retailers have already banned peat products on a voluntary basis, including Dobbies Garden Centres (which has a 2022 target) "and the Co-op. A legally mandated ban would affect two million cubic metres of peat-based compost per year, according to the ECIU.
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Re: Bagged Compost.

Postby blue estate » Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:21 pm

Franglais wrote:
blue estate wrote:
lancpudn wrote:I found out something else today! Being a keen gardener with a passion for growing tomatoes,aubergines,chillis, bell peppers in my two greenhouses I found out peat compost is being phased out from this year, Between 2022-2024 Peat Free compost will only be available and lots of retailers have already stopped selling it.
I've just been to load the car up with 75ltr bags of the good stuff before it disappears from my local retailer. :)
All to do with the Net Zero climate change policy the UK is signed up to, 250000 hectres of UK peat land will have to be restored by 2030 apparently. :shock:

That will be a lot of people out of work around Street and Glastonbury in Somerset as there’s at least 3 compost places there


Are there many peat bogs around Street or Glastonbury?

Goole the Somerset levels :wink: :roll:
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Postby the maoster » Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:57 pm

And when you’ve finished gooling it you can try Google. I realise that your default setting is Devils advocate Franglais, but before you come across all Islington and dismissive these are real people with real jobs who are going to suffer.
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Postby blue estate » Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:59 pm

the maoster wrote:And when you’ve finished gooling it you can try Google. I realise that your default setting is Devils advocate Franglais, but before you come across all Islington and dismissive these are real people with real jobs who are going to suffer.

Yep as one of the farms is a small operation of about 4/5 people and the other I would say is about 10/15 all local
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Re: Bagged Compost.

Postby Franglais » Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:24 pm

blue estate wrote:
Franglais wrote:
blue estate wrote:
lancpudn wrote:I found out something else today! Being a keen gardener with a passion for growing tomatoes,aubergines,chillis, bell peppers in my two greenhouses I found out peat compost is being phased out from this year, Between 2022-2024 Peat Free compost will only be available and lots of retailers have already stopped selling it.
I've just been to load the car up with 75ltr bags of the good stuff before it disappears from my local retailer. :)
All to do with the Net Zero climate change policy the UK is signed up to, 250000 hectres of UK peat land will have to be restored by 2030 apparently. :shock:

That will be a lot of people out of work around Street and Glastonbury in Somerset as there’s at least 3 compost places there


Are there many peat bogs around Street or Glastonbury?

Goole the Somerset levels :wink: :roll:


Thank you. Of course.

Seems the biggest peat extractor used to be Fison`s, who closed there in 1994, losing 90 jobs.
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the maoster wrote:And when you’ve finished gooling it you can try Google. I realise that your default setting is Devils advocate Franglais, but before you come across all Islington and dismissive these are real people with real jobs who are going to suffer.

Yep as one of the farms is a small operation of about 4/5 people and the other I would say is about 10/15 all local


Yep, it will be tough on the individuals. In spite of the industry shrinking for decades, with problems getting licences for many years, but never mind, sound advice is at hand:

the maoster wrote:Time rolls on and things transform and change. It's the natural order of life (adapt or die). :D

the maoster wrote: Like it or not this job is not what it was 10 years ago even, adapt or die is the answer.
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Postby the maoster » Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:56 pm

Oh wow! ^^ didn’t we used to be married? Seriously mate, how completely devoid of fun is your life?
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Postby the maoster » Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:58 pm

So I take it that in your usual supercilious manner you’re happy to look down your nose at those you feel are beneath you just because you fancied being a contrarian today?
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Postby lancpudn » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:53 pm

Juddian wrote:S'ok people in such jobs arn't important in the planned utopia, they'll own nothing and be happy just like comrade Klaus and his disciples have planned, this net zero bollocks is going to have all sorts of repercussions, thankfully most of the effects won't matter to the more equal...until the money runs out and the pitchforks get sharpened.

Thanks for the tip though.


Wait until the government bring in policies to reduce domestic meat consumption to reduce emissions to abide by the Net Zero regulations, The Beef & land management system have to reduce their emissions by 64% :shock: & that's not including the dairy industry.
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Re: Bagged Compost.

Postby lancpudn » Fri May 13, 2022 12:47 pm

Just been out to get some more compost to pot-on a load more young tomato plants & the stuff I've been buying for ages now has a new logo on the bag, "New Formula" It just means less peat compost in it from what I can gather, The other side of the bag says contains 30% peat compost, They're weaning us off the good stuff until it's 100% peat free after this year. :shock:
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Re: Bagged Compost.

Postby Roymondo » Fri May 13, 2022 1:20 pm

Carryfast wrote:More like removing another potential alternative fuel source to create their all electric captive market.
How does peat thrown on the garden add to CO2.
The world's peat bogs hold far more carbon than all the world's forests added together. It has been built up in them over the millenia. Simply digging the stuff up releases much of it into the atmosphere, burning or rotting it down releases the rest of it.


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Postby Carryfast » Fri May 13, 2022 9:37 pm

Roymondo wrote:
Carryfast wrote:More like removing another potential alternative fuel source to create their all electric captive market.
How does peat thrown on the garden add to CO2.
The world's peat bogs hold far more carbon than all the world's forests added together. It has been built up in them over the millenia. Simply digging the stuff up releases much of it into the atmosphere, burning or rotting it down releases the rest of it.




Trees actually convert CO2 into Oxygen via photosynthesis.
We're told that fossil fuel releases CO2 when it's burnt.Now they are saying it doesn't need to even be burnt to release it.
These climate scammers can't even keep their own lies straight.
The truth is burning peat is an alternative to the all electric captive market scam and the scammers want to close that potential loophole down like all the rest.
Just like the bs claims that burning wood in domestic stoves needs to be stopped but burning biomass in a power station is green.
While our gas exports have doubled.
They couldn't make it up.
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Re: Bagged Compost.

Postby Franglais » Sat May 14, 2022 12:12 pm

Carryfast wrote:
Roymondo wrote:
Carryfast wrote:More like removing another potential alternative fuel source to create their all electric captive market.
How does peat thrown on the garden add to CO2.
The world's peat bogs hold far more carbon than all the world's forests added together. It has been built up in them over the millenia. Simply digging the stuff up releases much of it into the atmosphere, burning or rotting it down releases the rest of it.




Trees actually convert CO2 into Oxygen via photosynthesis.
We're told that fossil fuel releases CO2 when it's burnt.Now they are saying it doesn't need to even be burnt to release it.
These climate scammers can't even keep their own lies straight.
The truth is burning peat is an alternative to the all electric captive market scam and the scammers want to close that potential loophole down like all the rest.
Just like the bs claims that burning wood in domestic stoves needs to be stopped but burning biomass in a power station is green.
While our gas exports have doubled.
They couldn't make it up.


I`m sure you`ll be there to aid for "their" creative deficiencies.
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Postby commonrail » Sat May 14, 2022 11:41 pm

I get horse [zb] foc from my local stables.
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Postby lancpudn » Mon May 16, 2022 4:47 pm

commonrail wrote:I get horse [zb] foc from my local stables.


I gave up with stable manure because of all the chemicals they pump into horses these days. Unless it's at least ten years old & well rotted I'm not interested, I use chicken manure pellets mixed in with the "new" compost instead these days.
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Postby commonrail » Mon May 16, 2022 10:44 pm

They say chicken [zb] is especially good for growing onions.
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Postby lancpudn » Tue May 17, 2022 8:32 am

commonrail wrote:They say chicken [zb] is especially good for growing onions.


Certainly is, I grow the comfrey plant to make liquid fertiliser with which is the best of the lot for all my tomatoes,peppers,cucumbers,chilli's, Got a batch of nettle tea fermenting now in 5 gallon containers for the squash,pumpkin plants. Opened them yesterday to see how they're going on & boy do they stink. I dilute both of these down to a 10-1 ratio & the plants love it.
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