Not very impressed by this from the ‘Opposition’…
Meanwhile, I’d expect nothing less from “Hussein”…
Just a couple of steps away from another “Inquisition” the way things are going…
“Can’t say that, can’t post that, can’t even THINK that”.
Dipster:
Many years ago I used to work for a man who had 16 betting shops. 16. He taught me that the “house” never loses… just accumulates money!
All those people who got told “Bookmakers always make money” - How come they didn’t chuck their day job in - and become bookmakers themselves■■?
…Just saying like… 
Mazzer2:
Franglais:
Looks to me like horse number six is 5 million votes, and 58 college votes out in front.
What do you see?That is intended as a rhetorical question
I see a horse that is just out of the picture yep that’s her Kamela and although six is the winner when he’s sent to the knackers yard next year for being unable to race anymore she’ll be declared the winner, good way into get power without being elected put up someone who is more than likely unable to do the job and insert his vice who would never have got elected had she stood, and they say Trump is trying to pull off a coup
Apparently, an awful lot of these magic extra votes - had just “BIden” marked on the ballot paper, and none of the other supporting Democrat for Congress/Senate people marked…
That means techinically, if Biden now croaks before January 20th 2021, Kamella does NOT automatically inherit the Presidency, especially if the croaking happens before the Electoral College have voted her to be “Vice President Elect” meanwhile… The next in line is apparently Nancy Pelosi, the House speaker - BUT she’s now being gunned for by her own party for such a “poor showing in this election”… WTAF??
All in all, 10-12m votes extra for “Biden” but non underlying candidates for Congress/Senate - make no sense, unless they are questionably bogus.
,Notice how slow the “Turnout” figure is being come up with, and of course all these states where 100% of the count STILL is not in… What happened to “Every Vote to be Counted?” - or is that just until your side nudges in front, at which point you want to stop counting straight away, and quit while your ahead?
FFS the whole system is so bent, it makes a paperclip look straight!
Franglais:
Looks to me like horse number six is 5 million votes, and 58 college votes out in front.
What do you see?That is intended as a rhetorical question
The photo is at the finish line, that is when 100% of all votes are counted, all states are officially called with all votes counted.
That hasn’t happened yet, so it is fair to say looks 5m votes and 58 college votes - but since this is actually at the line, the two are mutually exclusive.
Bookmakers were ducking bets on “Turnout Percentage” this year, which whilst unusual - isn’t as unusual as the fact they are not taking fresh bets on what the final electoral college votes per candidate will be, which is VERY odd, as the big bucks don’t seem to be on Biden getting this 306 figure at all… The reason? “It is impossible to predict how many faithless electors there will be” - which would scew all bets. In 2016 Hilary lost 5 electoral college votes to “Faithless Electors”, whilst Trump lost 2 himself the same way… If you’d bet on Trump to win 308 electoral college votes, based on the states you thought he was going to carry - then you would have picked the exact pattern to win that bet - but been settled as a LOSER, because your final count fell two short, because of the two defecting electoral college votes, although I understand Trump got one of the ones Hilary lost in Maine…
I can’t get a bet on anywhere that there will be a record number of “faithless electors” in December.
It was not possible before the election to get a “high field” bet in place, where one got paid if either candidate got more votes than Obama…
Record ballots were returned ahead of the election, which apparently were supposed to include an awful lot of Democrat votes.
The Republican camp looked confident when they were apparently holding their own among this early surge of mail-in votes…
Then, on Election night, Blue states where Biden was already ahead - got called early, whilst voting in Non-Blue states got kept open and open - for as long as it took for these all-so-slow counters to get their act together, taking sooo long that even more outstanding, and likely post-dated ballot boxes could get their oars in late.
This vid was released before the election, and talks of the “complications” that can happen, due to disagreements amoungst the different legislatures, govenors, and Electors that come about because of it…
It gives Trump his main “out” here, which is the classic Poker game “Re-Steal”.
The board comes up with three hearts, and you bet the flush you don’t have, hoping to win the pot in a bluff…
Your opponent raises you… Attempting to “steal” this pot from you, as if they knew you didn’t have the cards…
YOU sure don’t have a made flush, but you DO have the Ace of Hearts in your hand, meaning that whatever your opponent has, made flush or no - they DON’T have the NUTS, meaning that they may then NOT CALL if you bet the lot, and move all-in, which would be a classic re-steal maneuver…
How can your opponent call? They know they’ve only got a mediocre flush, and you moving in on them - makes it look like you’re ‘nutted’ as the expression goes…
Gonna make that call? - For everything you’ve got?
Republican local legislatures and govenors - can “pack the electors” with delibearte “faithless electors” the way I see it.
It doesn’t help Biden if he wins Georgia and Arizona for starters… (See vid for why)
The Democrats have first dibs are the elector pick in the other states Biden has apparently carried, but they are absolutely relying on their partisan hold OVER those electors, a bit like a “whipped vote” if you will.
Electors? - Are not supposedly “Biased” in this partisan manner though.
What MAY happen in ALL those states “in contention” with a Democrat Govenor but Republican Legislature - is that the votes end up ALL getting split.
This would award half the electoral college votes for each state to both Trump and Biden, less any other “faithless votes” for third parties, such as Big Chief Running Sore, or whatever.
BIDEN simply cannot afford to lose that many electoral college votes though, because the Blues simply don’t carry enough states overall here…
The one thing in common with all these states - seems to be that Biden has polled less than 1% over Trump in ALL of them.
Wouldn’t a fair and obvious way to sort the deadlock be to award half and half?
“Refusal to countenence such” - might cause uproar in some OTHER States, such as California, New York, and Texas - the big gun states where if THEIR electors suddenly decide to “split their votes” before going to December 12th - then watch out! The whole election is still very much up in the air, providing Trump doesn’t get tricked into conceding in the meantime…
If the election had been a small marginal win for Trump, Hilary is already on record telling Biden “not to concede”, which presumably means the Democrats are not beyond trying to pull a stroke in Texas in particular as well…
On paper, the Republicans have a HUGE advantage card here, IF they choose to play it.
The best bit is, that the Supreme Court don’t even need to get invovled, and should the Democrats decide to “block Trump’s litigation attempts” beforehand, they might in effect have shot themselves in the foot…
Trump may well be playing a FEINT in bringing these apparently futile actions in the FIRST place of course…
No one in the media is talking about what shenanigans the Electors, Governors, and Local Legislature are capable of… That smacks of being BAD for Blues, and GOOD for Reds, I reckon…
We’ll just have to wait until December 14th’s electoral vote to see - won’t we?
…I wouldn’t put it past Democrat Lawyers (of which they are definitely overweight in…) push some fresh litigation of their own - making it a prison sentence for being a “faithless elector” in THIS election… But I think the Republicans have this covered as well, as they once again - simply hold more states’ legislatures and govenors overall…
It may be decided that it is better to return Trump until January 2025, rather than risk a Civil War, and ceding parts of America to the Chinese, their national debt situation being as bad as it is…
Trump, a professional defaulter who’s successfully gone bankrupt and bounced back no less than TEN times already - would seem to be the right man to both stand up to China, and possibly squeeze some kind of reparations out of China for their part in the World’s COVID Crisis that has cost American Lives, Jobs, and nearly this election as well…
The Electors will decide, and who decides which bank of electors get used of course… The call of the local Govenors, that one… 
Here’s another racing analogy for you…
Dharma Rain, the struggling horse at the back of this group of runners - is the only horse to correctly jump the matchbox fence at the start of the video, comes in plum last of 8 finishers…
The title of the video - tells you who then WON that race.
Trump ain’t out of the game - yet…
North Carolina has been settled for the Republicans, with Arizona, Michigan, Pensylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Georgia ALL “still in play” despite the mainstream media and everyone else already bought over saying otherwise.
Backers of Biden to win this election - must be fuming, as they’re going to have to wait at least until December 14th as it stands, and then beyond that to January next year - for their payouts.
Biden has “won” - when the largest book on Earth SAYS he’s “won”, and wagers have been paid off in this near-700Million quid market, akin to the entire Barak Obama Stimulous Package after the Credit Crunch 12 years ago…
Biden 1/16
Trump 16/1
Harris 900/1
Others 1000/1
Hilary was 1/16 long odds on the morning of polling in 2016, after which she then went onto lose that very same night, of course…
Things - happen in betting. That’s why books get kept open, of course.
You ain’t out - until the winner has been paid out with your cash…
Winseer:
Dipster:
Many years ago I used to work for a man who had 16 betting shops. 16. He taught me that the “house” never loses… just accumulates money!All those people who got told “Bookmakers always make money” - How come they didn’t chuck their day job in - and become bookmakers themselves■■?
…Just saying like…
Good question. I can only speak for myself.
The reason I have not been a bookie is simply that I find gambling, speaking frankly, a stupid way to spend money when you can see the odds, overall, are against you. As I said my former boss lived very well indeed on the earnings of most of the poor sods who entered his shops regularly. And because I have a belief that, as it can be addictive to the point of ruining many people (and causing misery for their families who perhaps depend on them), a quite immoral way to earn a living.
Since my experiences all those years ago I have had nothing to do with it. But for those who are happy gambling I say carry on, my former boss still needs his income.
The most successful “Gamblers”, aka “Professional Gamblers” - also happen to do a bit of bookmaking on the side as part of their trade.
Likewise, the most successful bookmakers, occasionally take a view in the markets they make. An example of this would be say, Ladbrokes “ducking” a mid-field semi-fancied horse (i.e. “not the favourite”) where Ladbrokes offer up a price of say, 8/1 about this horse, when all the other bookmakers are offering 10/1 or better…
Should that horse then duly romp home a winner, the mainstream says things like “THEY KNEW!”
Ladbrokes then end up paying out far less in winnings to punters, because most of the money bet upon that particular horse would have gone elsewhere to get the 10/1 and better being offered at all the other bookmakers… Only a handful of people would have been “daft” enough to bet the horse @ 8/1 at Ladbrokes, but when they duly get paid out promptly, the bookmaking industry does it’s reputation GOOD by being sportsman-like about it.
Meanwhile, Bob Turf, small bookmaker in the Mumbles - goes BUST because HE was offering 20/1 about the same horse in this example…
Offering a bigger price than your competitors is known as “Going out to get the horse”
Offering a lower price is known as “ducking”.
If Bookmakers never took a view on occasion in this way, they’d find their profits greatly diminished.
Punters who never offer up a price (via an exchange) or “back to oppose” a horse they believe cannot win - will find themselves long term loses in betting, which means they’ll never in fact, actually become “Professional gamblers”, since to achieve this accolade - one has to make more money from gambling than from one’s day job - not one, but TWO tax year’s running…
So, if I won £50,000 this week, and then lost £10,000 NEXT year, - I’d still be a professional driver,
but if I won £50,000 this week and then another £40,000 next year - I’d then be obliged to go professional as a gambler, because I can no longer call myself an “amateur” on the second tax year.
"The majority of one’s income in a tax year - is one’s profession" for all intents and purposes - exluding the first year, where a single one-off big win, stands unlikely to be repeated at that point.
Or all lottery winners would be obliged to resign on the spot, if you think about it…
The subtle dance between “making bets” and “taking bets” is where Risk Management comes in, an area that I was into before I even got a car licence, and I’d quite like to get back into, as it happens…
“A single Black Swan - doth not a summer make” as we long-time punters say, as well…
As for this notion that the “House always wins” - would you be surprised that I’ve been going to betting shops for 30 years, but have not pushed a single chip across green felt in a casino ONCE?
“I’m not interested in games-of-chance”. I like “games” where I’m betting that my judgement is better than that of other losing punters around me.
Like that old analogy about the Alligator in the Swimming Pool “You don’t need to be the first one out of the pool to survive, just make sure you’re out before the last one REMAINING.”
IN a ten horse race, A winning punter needs to pick the one horse out of the ten that will win. That’s Hard to do, implied risk of 90% of losing, one might reasonably estimate…
In that same ten horse race, the Bookmaker conversely stands a 90% chance of laying a loser - when they pick odd horses to lay. BUT a full book means they take money about ALL the runners in a race, so prices need to be adjusted so “not to much money ends up on the eventual winner”, leaving that bookmaker with a liability should they have to pay out more than they took in on bets about the other 9 losing horses in this example…
The Professional Gambler will try to find the “Dark Horse” that stands a better chance of winning than their odds would suggest…
The “Risk Manager” will try and bet only on horses that meet that category as well, but they permit themselves to bet more than one horse.
When Laying, the Risk Manager looks to lay the top 3-5 horses in the betting market that are more likely than usual to find a way to lose being even placed in this race…
The Grand National - is a notoriously difficult race to even finish in for instance, but if you lay up the top five in the betting, then each one of those five that “fails to place”, might represented a return of 30% of your originally risked capital… Thus, you could lay five, have one of them win, another finish second, and you’ll STILL be losing money there, as you only returned yourself 30%+30%+30% of your original investment, an overall loss of 10%.
BUT if you can “miss the winner”, that return goes up to 120%, a clear profit - and all you had to do was “NOT have the winner”.
Score ZERO out of the five, and you’ll be keeping 150% of whatever you invested - once again, “for picking a bunch of losers”.
Now folks - Do I need to explain to anyone on Earth that it is FAR easier to pick “losers” than winners in this game?
THIS is the bookmaker’s edge: They expect to duck winners and find the occasional dark horse more often than “regular” hapless punters do, regular punters who reflexibly bet on horses because the price suggests it is going to win, it is a nice colour, they like the name, my mate owns the horse, and all those other Nonsense sentimental reasons that people choose to throw their money away… 
When I worked on race courses,pre bet fair.
The idea was to actually make a book.
In that…you worked with a set of odds that would make a small profit,even if the"jolly"obliged.
This is called over round.
Rules changed…and new money came in.
Bookmakers now had an"opinion"and would duck their fancy whilst simultaneously"pulling"the rest of the field.
This resulted in a hopelessly lob sided book.
Traditional BOOKMAKERS could only lay a bet if they followed the pullers,ending up in a situation whereby you could end up with several losing possibilities.
This is called overbroke.
Check out the best price percentages for any race.
The margins simply aren’t there.
commonrail:
When I worked on race courses,pre bet fair.
The idea was to actually make a book.
In that…you worked with a set of odds that would make a small profit,even if the"jolly"obliged.
This is called over round.
Rules changed…and new money came in.
Bookmakers now had an"opinion"and would duck their fancy whilst simultaneously"pulling"the rest of the field.
This resulted in a hopelessly lob sided book.
Traditional BOOKMAKERS could only lay a bet if they followed the pullers,ending up in a situation whereby you could end up with several losing possibilities.
This is called overbroke.Check out the best price percentages for any race.
The margins simply aren’t there.
Yes indeed. The 1950’s was the “Golden Age” of on-course bookmaking, with perhaps the years after licenced betting shops until the end of the century when the exchanges such as Betfair started up, “being the golden age of the betting shop” - From a bookmaker’s point of view.
That didn’t mean that it was all bad news for Punters… I’ve lost count of how many times I could beat the odds - by simply paying attention to what was going on in the market…
See a 16/1 shot that was on the boards as 44/1 on the Tote? - Back that horse on the tote then!
See a horse in the top five for betting, limping its way from the paddock down to the start?
Steer clear, don’t include it in your forecast and tricast combinations!
As a Punter, you are merely betting against other losing punters. The biggest profits come from being right when everyone else is wrong.
I’ve always bet the outsider prices, only ever having ended up on the favourite a handful of times across three decades, because I’m more likely to elect for SP than take an early price, although “Best odds guaranteed” deals have smudged that a bit of late.
I’ve noticed that the modern on-course bookmaker are no longer “Laying”, but rather just act as either commission agents (take your bet @ 10/1 and try to lay it off on Betfair @ 20/1 for example)
OR they are merely accountants, that will just take bets with a maximum liability of say, £500 meaning if you try and get a tenner on a 66/1 shot, you’ll be told “I’ll let you have a fiver, sonny” - if you’re lucky.
I notice on Betfair that there are “layers” who seem to think that “Outsiders cannot ever win”, despite results in the newspapers every day to contradict that assumption…
They’ll look at the BOTTOM three in the betting, and offer crazy prices to try and attract money for the horses in question…
All fine and dandy, “picking up pennies in front of steamrollers” as I’ve heard such practice referred to, - but lay a big-priced winner for even a decent wedge - and you’re looking at losing your house for the sake of a round of drinks FFS…
Lay two back-to-back 16/1 SP horses at 999/1 “in running” which then both win - and you’re looking at “Window ledge jump time” - why? Because you thought outsiders cannot win, and you thought WRONG! essentially.
These “Exchange Layers” - look like they don’t have a CLUE about Risk Management if you ask me… Young pups who think they know it all… I’ve no sympathy with them of course, and I hope in due course to be the one on the other side of the transaction, the one that has a few quid on at such odds as 1000/1 in due course…
…and here’s a little explanation of the maths involved with the situation of a “Dead Heat” involving any long-odds-on bets - where a built in loss nearing 50% of a rather large stake is involved…
https://support.betfair.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/403/c/483/
I never EVER back odds-on, and have never EVER laid odds-against horses, during my short time trying to make exchanges pay…
I now stick to traditional bookmakers to take my bets, using “Multibets” which they love to take, have the big payout potential, and limit my losses to the small change I can afford to lose these days.
A typical bet of mine would be an Each Way Yankee, here’s one for today, total cost £22.00
Newcastle 18:15 Newmarket Warrior 16/1
Newcastle 18:45 Star Cracker 20/1
Newcastle 19:15 Prophecy 33/1
Newcastle 19:45 Dramatista 50/1
The minimum return on this bet would be for getting two of these four “placed”. Decent money for getting two winners, BIG money for getting Three, and a bloody fortune for getting all four.
Even getting all four placed would return enough to buy a brand new car here.
If they lose? £22.00 down the pan, but the upside potential - is enormous, even for having a 50% loser strike rate here.
Yep…we always kept the"rags"on our side.
I mean,how much can you take on a 50/1 chance…on a February afternoon at Leicester,without seriously unbalancing your book?
Might aswell have it running for you.
One thing I could never understand about these new breed punter turned layers…was why(if they were that good a judge)didn’t they just put a bet on…and then watch it at home,on the telly.
They’d have a start,with the money they’d saved on exes.
Yes, it does seem strange that there are plenty who would “pick up those pennies lying on the ground in front of steamrollers coming” - but wouldn’t ever dare to put a tenner on a “Rag” themselves - each way even!
The way I see it is that if there are 16 horses in a race, 4 places paid, and the race is the type that “bookmakers love” - that is, “Competetive Handicap” (aka “Impossible Handicap” by the punters).
Surely any four horses can make up the four places, such as this result posted below (just pulled off last saturday’s Cheltemham results)
The favourite is placed third, 10-1 winner, but 50/1 third which was probably the best value each way bet of this particular piece, as a quid each way on this 50-1 shot “Kuato Riko” pays £13.50 for a place @ 1/4 the odds a place, and a less-good-value £9.00 for a place on the tote. The 10/1 winner paid £12.30 for the win, marginally better by around 11%, nothing to write home about though.
I find that the larger fields (20+ runners) tend to pay better for the Tote odds, SP these days is better than an early board price otherwise.
I don’t take prices at ALL - unless it’s on a “best odds guaranteed” basis where if the price goes out, you get the bigger SP price… Might as well elect for SP in the FIRST place, as there’s little chance one’s chosen outsider among six other outsiders - is going to be backed with heavy money prior to the off… I dunno what’s gonna win any more than the other punters do, except I get paid more when I get it right than when they do… Simples.
I’ve only ever been banned from one bookmaker though, Corals - where I once got 3 out of 4 winners on one of my yankee bets (tonight’s posted bet returned FA btw)
I beat SP by a factor of six, they coughed up 15k rather than the £2480 it would have been at SP, and I promptly got my account closed… Thinking back, I should have kept that curt letter and framed it!
Not had a bigger winnner than that in the two decades since (two or three big-priced winners each time in a multibet such as a yankee), but I’ve had a dozen four figure wins over those years, which is better than a kick in the nuts I guess. My best betting months tend to be Late January to Mid April “Golden Days”. My worst? - End of May until End of September. People seem to be more savvy on the Flat season, and there’s less “Chaos” involved as well, such as when Ruby Walsh unseats at the last on the hot favourite like he’s got a reputation for doing… My Mrs has had a big win on the Derby and Grand National, but those races elude me for my “main bet big win”. My best record is Welsh and Scottish Grand Nationals, plus this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqRWc0hvmvw the best winner my Mrs ever got, landing her 4.5 large, three weeks after I’d had an almost identical sized win on a £1 each way double on a couple of no hopers including 100/1 Usquaebach a month earlier in March… Went touring the whole country on holiday after that, as I like to “sit out the summer season” for reasons I’ve already given above. Small bets, Bet Often, let chaos chip away at my own bad luck… (I probably win a lot less often than most other punters)
My favourite type of race is a Handicap over a distance of 3m or more, and a Chase race with a BIg field 14-20 runners.
“3m+” means more opportunities for the fancied horses to come a cropper, big fields mean the horses that lead - are more likely to come a cropper from “traffic problems” (bumping…) whilst “Chase” races - have the bigger fences that are harder to jump… I also have a slight preference to left-handed race tracks with inclined run-ins such as Cheltenham (Uphill) or Epsom (downhill)…
On the flat, I’ve not had a big winner multibet come in (double or better) for years and years. I don’t bet more than £1 units in multibets, because I shouldn’t need to with the sort of prices I’m backing at…
If you can get one of those special bonus slips with “3 times odds for only one winner”, then it is better to do a “Lucky 15” rather than a Yankee, of course…
On National Hunt and other Jumps racing - there’s FAR more occasion where “Horse says No” than on the Flat, where the better faster horses tend to win as expected more often…
…Still awaiting that time I get that magical fourth winner!
Mate of mine who worked for years as a bookies clerk always observed the most popular named nag on big days was- ‘f@@kin ba@tard’ 
A long lived destrier, popular to this day.
The point I’ve been trying to make on this thread with regards to OP is the way the opposition think they’ve won already, when in fact the result is nothing more than the proverbial “Racing Certainty” - which as many of us already know, and I’ve since informed the forum of IN this thread “A racing certainty” - just means “Unlikely to lose from here” NOT “Absolute guaranteed WIN”.
A “WIN” is when you’ve been paid out for backing that winner.
At this time, Joe Biden is odds 1/20 to be next President, Trump is 20/1 against.
These prices are still flucuating, as they should on any “open” market. The size of the market has now exceeded £800,000,000 which would make it the largest bet market in HISTORY already.
I’ve already listed the outstanding STATES deemed still “In Play” above in this thread on another post.
The only one to have been declared, and SETTLED by this point, is North Carolinia for the Republicans.
Georgia - despite all the Press releases that “Called for Biden” pretty much every day this past week - has yet to be settled, and is hence “not done yet”.
Never mind what the talking heads say - If you have yet to be paid out on betting Democrat here - you have yet to be declared the winner BY being paid out.
Months ago, there was Q.Anon material out there pertaining to this being a rigged election, including fine detail on the MANY fronts on which it could be done.
The common denominator running through all such mutiple would-be fraud method - is the “lack of supervision” at critical moments.
That there were a few “Useful Idiots” on the Republican side of politics - helped things along no end though.
Now the counter-party to those “Republican Useful Idiots” who looked the other way when they shouldn’t have…
…Blue State Republicans who now break rank and don’t do as they are told, for instance as “Electors”…
Trump has three routes to retain the Whitehouse at this time:
(1) Winning in the electoral college vote on December 14th
(2) Getting the Supreme Court to entirely VOID the election, on grounds of widespread fraud being proven, even without individual suspects being identified (unlikely)
(3) The Presidential Elect being decided by Congress where ONE state Representative for each state - goes to Congress to vote one way or the other…
Now, despite the slight Democrat congress Majority - The Republicans simply control more states than the Democrats do, so a straight vote - would surely find for Trump, especially if they’ve had it to the back teeth of all these shenanigans, and are sick and tired of seeing the system subverted before their very eyes…
Q.Anon stuff was purged days and weeks before the election, as it would appear it has been bang-on-the-money throughout…
There wouldn’t be any point “censoring” people that were full of nothing more than bunkum conspiracy theories BUT the moment some or any of them get “close to the mark”, let alone “bang on the money” - People start disappearing entirely from the Web…
For those largely unfamiliar with Q-Anon it is essentially a notion that a group of anti-Cabal/Deep-State activists are working covertly around the Trump administration to prevent the satanically inclined elements-Soros,Clinton crime syndicate,High-Masonry,‘Royalty’ Rothschild/Rockefeller axis etc from ushering in the ‘new age’ of techno-feudalism they’ve been working on assiduously for at least 2 centuries or so.Certain developments have conspired to throw a few spokes into their plan,namely whistleblowers such as Seth Rich (R.I.P) and Julian Assange with the Wikkileaks revelations, as well as numerous other brave souls we will never hear of.The big problem is the strong probability of a mass psychosis to the worlds populace when certain truths are brought into the light of day,concerning the gargantuan scale of evil (think satanic) and deception that has underscored the destiny of our earth for the longest time,therefore it all needs to be handled,ultra-sensitively (and legally) so it can be processed in ways that won’t cause massive ■■■■■■-trauma,which it most certainly would.
For a flavour of this there’s a 10 part documentary on Bitchute called-‘Fall of the Cabal’ which lays it out in a powerful but disturbing way than i could ever aspire to.The wonderful Janet Ossebaard will explain how it really is plus she has a sequel series which provides a wider overview of the origins of the Cabal that is utterly mind blowing.Just got part 4 and there’s more on the way. 
The prefix-WWG1 WGA is often used in conjunction with Q,this is the name etched into JFK’s sailing yachts ,iron- bell and means-‘Where We Go One,We Go All’,a rallying cry from a great man who tried to change the world for the better and obviously had to be thwarted.There’s also another interesting pdf,if it’s still around,that purports to be from the US -D.I.A (defence intelligence agency) -‘Majestic Messages of Disclosure’,from the MJ- 12 group established to cover up the Roswell, alien incident around the 1950’s.The PDF is a Q&A type of affair which reads exactly like the Q-anon information drops and i wouldn’t be surprised if Q and MJ12 are from the same stable.It is very interesting material to put it mildly.
The battle for the “Low Information Voter” has already been won, it seems…
People who look for it - will find what they seek. There’s plenty of “shadow banned” stuff now prospering on BitChute, but the mainstream PUBLIC will only get to see what gets fed to their Iphones and other devices, most of them not even having a single desktop computer in their homes…
For many, the “Laptop” is the only pootah at home, the Mrs might have a tablet, and everyone gets the trickle-trickle constant bull of mainstream media, totally unblockable on their Iphones… If you don’t watch the crap - you need to be blocking pretty much everything it seems…
Meanwhile, in Betting Land, ALL the States still up-in-the-air are now Bid 1.05 odds plus Biden bid massively @ 1.05 as well for MILLIONS… Whilst this is probably Soros money, it is interesting that as a “Layer” he’s prepared to take on all ■■■■■■■ with regards to drifting-out Trump, whom people still back, as he still has three clear angles to retain the Whitehouse - using “Home Ground Advantage” that wouldn’t have got him elected in 2016, but can now safely be used to prevent BIDEN as the “Upstart” getting a look-in come December…
Forget the “Supreme Court”. The Electors and Congress will probably sort this out between themselves by that point.
Get the Courts involved, and people will be going to jail on BOTH sides of the Aisle…
The Democrats clearly required the help of at least a FEW Republicans - to carry out a fraud that already looks like having taken place over 20-50 states rather than the 4-6 we all imagined it would be about from the beginning…
Word has it that Milwaukee’s turnout has now gone above 100%…
If THAT is not “all the proof needed” merely to call in a full AUDIT - then what IS?
I’m hearing Steven Stills musical masterpiece-‘‘For what it’s Worth’’ playing around the swede increasingly these days. 
What a great new year we’d be having, if Boris unexpectedly delivers a Hard Brexit for January 1st, and Trump finds himself on course to a smooth transitioned to his second term, as Mike Pompeo puts it…
Trump caused an upset back in 2016, from a position of “hampered guy with no security clearance” and all.
THIS time around, he’s the incumbent President of the United States facing a massive electoral fraud on many levels, many fronts, and in many states - just to get rid of HIM and no one else in the Establishment…
Both the Electors December 14th and Supreme Court after that date - might have something to say about that.
There just are not enough left-over voters in the United States to have surged Biden past Trump by the small amounts in each state “by chance” let alone “by mathematical likelihood”.
Trump surges to the highest level of support for an incumbent president ever, surging by more than 10m popular votes, and yet gets held off by a guy who barely campaigned, has already had 8 years “getting nothing done”, and is only getting what little support isn’t disputed, because he’s “Not Trump”… No way Jose!
If Biden is 5 million votes ahead, then invalidating an average of 100,000 bogus votes in any shape or form across all 50 states, leaves Biden in the position he SHOULD be in - Two states down, and LOSING the popular vote this time around.
All this rubbish about “court cases”? - Not important. Proving 100,000 ballots in each state “invalid”? Easy Peasy by comparison, as it doesn’t need a court to authorise such “evidence gathering”.
Even if such evidence won’t get past the local legislatures, the Electors, Congress, and Supreme Court will come to a decision if they wish to preserve the American Republic OR turn it over to the Communists - forever.
…The Republicans - WON’T be elected ever again, IF they let this travesty happen to their best president ever, seeing as he ran on a Republican Ticket. Shame on those who’d “throw him under the bus” in cahoots with the Democrat Party "simply for being unpopular amoung the joint-establishment on BOTH sides of the Aisle…
I believe “Conspiracy” if proven, carries a 20 year jail sentence in America.
Part of “Denying Conspiracy” to those actually responsible OF it - will be to cut themselves loose, should any future judgement in favour of Trump - be passed. There will be NO more “Not My President” or “Further Pushback”, and Trump can actually begin his FIRST term, four years overdue - unblocked this time around.
…Or the system can go “Oh well never mind”, and sell out to the Chinese Communist Party, who already have an Iron Grip on the Internet, deciding what information is, and isn’t available to the masses.
If the Free World can no longer trust American forms of “Democracy” any longer, then people will just give up, and let themselves be ruled by whatever Despot happens to be owed the most money, in this case - Xi Ping rather than others like “Putin”, who hasn’t been a clear-and-present danger to Western Civilization for some time now.
Bring on the Kraken…go Sidney,go girl. 
Amen to that!