New Pass C+E - Agency Advice

ROG:

Agentile:
Thank you for all of the great responses. I haven’t started yet, I believe they may have me booked in for this weekend. I have a question though…

For the non-driving work days in the week, must I enter them manually into the Tacho?

No - it is too fiddly - do manual entries on printout rolls - just start and finish times needed

If doing more non driving days than driving days then a diary is acceptable with start and finish times for each day

Could I get a notebook and detail all my activity in there? and they would be happy with that?

For clarity… Sunday to Thursday non-driving work detailed in the notebook and then I would use the Tacho to record Friday into Saturday driving work. I wouldn’t need to input anything but the driving work into the Tacho and the notebook would suffice as gap evidence between the alternate weeks?

Agentile:

ROG:

Agentile:
Thank you for all of the great responses. I haven’t started yet, I believe they may have me booked in for this weekend. I have a question though…

For the non-driving work days in the week, must I enter them manually into the Tacho?

No - it is too fiddly - do manual entries on printout rolls - just start and finish times needed

If doing more non driving days than driving days then a diary is acceptable with start and finish times for each day

Could I get a notebook and detail all my activity in there? and they would be happy with that?

For clarity… Sunday to Thursday non-driving work detailed in the notebook and then I would use the Tacho to record Friday into Saturday driving work. I wouldn’t need to input anything but the driving work into the Tacho and the notebook would suffice as gap evidence between the alternate weeks?

You could do nothing - and if ever pulled just say nothing. I’ve been pulled by dvsa and they didn’t start asking me what I was doing when my card wasn’t in.

There is the letter of the law - and there is the reality of it. Guarantee you 99 drivers out of a hundred with another job are not writing it all down for vosa.

The chances of being pulled if driving for a legit firm are tiny. And all they will care about is actual infringements on the card and stuff related to the vehicle. Not what you were doing on days you were not driving.

sammym:

Agentile:

ROG:

Agentile:
Thank you for all of the great responses. I haven’t started yet, I believe they may have me booked in for this weekend. I have a question though…

For the non-driving work days in the week, must I enter them manually into the Tacho?

No - it is too fiddly - do manual entries on printout rolls - just start and finish times needed

If doing more non driving days than driving days then a diary is acceptable with start and finish times for each day

Could I get a notebook and detail all my activity in there? and they would be happy with that?

For clarity… Sunday to Thursday non-driving work detailed in the notebook and then I would use the Tacho to record Friday into Saturday driving work. I wouldn’t need to input anything but the driving work into the Tacho and the notebook would suffice as gap evidence between the alternate weeks?

You could do nothing - and if ever pulled just say nothing. I’ve been pulled by dvsa and they didn’t start asking me what I was doing when my card wasn’t in.

There is the letter of the law - and there is the reality of it. Guarantee you 99 drivers out of a hundred with another job are not writing it all down for vosa.

The chances of being pulled if driving for a legit firm are tiny. And all they will care about is actual infringements on the card and stuff related to the vehicle. Not what you were doing on days you were not driving.

And how many years experience is this advice based on? How many days have you driven and how many times have you examined by the ministry?
What are the potential fines and other consequences if you are questioned and found lacking?
And a last question.
How much effort is involved in keeping a note of hours in a diary?

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I’ve managed to get two weeks off from my warehouse job. Is there any unforeseen rule stopping me from driving for two weeks?

Agentile:
I’ve managed to get two weeks off from my warehouse job. Is there any unforeseen rule stopping me from driving for two weeks?

Your time - you do what you want to - with the usual EU regs rules of course

Fantastic. A driver told me the first 8 hours of holiday would count toward my work time… or something like that. I didn’t see how that would apply to me if true.

Agentile:
Fantastic. A driver told me the first 8 hours of holiday would count toward my work time… or something like that. I didn’t see how that would apply to me if true.

Warehouse work in under normal WTD which can be fully opted out of
Driving work is under drivers WTD
The two are not added together

Also - if a full time lorry driver does two weeks driving work when on holls then only the work done during the holls counts not the WTD holl amount as well

Thanks for all the great replies.

I’m not having any luck with Adinas. Does anyone know of any other Agencies that will take on a fresh recruit? QS don’t have anything for me either.

Any companies I could try? I’ve sent my CV to XPO logistics already.

Re agencies, why not book in with all in your area? The more that know of you, the better your chance of offers. If you get loads of offers, choose the best looking. What`s to loose?

Franglais:
Re agencies, why not book in with all in your area? The more that know of you, the better your chance of offers. If you get loads of offers, choose the best looking. What`s to loose?

Whenever I’ve done agency work, I’ve always signed up to all of them, but I worked on a first come first served basis. A higher hourly rate may look better, but if you get more work out of a slightly lower paid job, what’s better?

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