Winseer:
Why this contant barrage of abuse all the time?.unless and until I find my account here being busted as it has been elsewhere.
There’s a move currently going on meanwhile at DM where I also post a lot, which seems to be aiming to red me off the board along the “two many complaints” angle,
And there it is again, the couple of lines amongst all the endless crap which says it all. 
1 .Victim.
2 .It ain’t only us but everybody else who think the same.
When you gonna accept it Winseer?? 
tmcassett:
Carryfast:
This is the type of ‘environment’ that these grovelling muppets have created for themselves.Not sure about you but if I was looking for a class 1 job my answer would be if they want a driver to drive a truck fine.
If they want a warehouse operative then advertise the job and employ one.
You don’t see ads for train driver warehousemen or pilot warehousemen so why are truck drivers considered as second class.
cv-library.co.uk/job/212763067A job will entail whatever the company advertising it want it to entail and they have every right to ask for that.
If that means a lorry driving job has some element of unloading or other such work then so be it. You seem to have some bee in your bonnet that any job that involves anything other than “a distance” drive from A to B and back again involving a “bulk or full load” is a crime that should not be asked of any “lorry driver”
The clue is in the title lorry driver.Just like a train driver or pilot.
Class 1 warehouseman you’re avin a larf.
As I said grovelling muppets.
robroy:
Winseer:
Why this contant barrage of abuse all the time?.unless and until I find my account here being busted as it has been elsewhere.
There’s a move currently going on meanwhile at DM where I also post a lot, which seems to be aiming to red me off the board along the “two many complaints” angle,
And there it is again, the couple of lines amongst all the endless crap which says it all.
1 .Victim.
2 .It ain’t only us but everybody else who think the same.
When you gonna accept it Winseer??
It ain’t ‘everybody else’.There’s a lot which he’s saying about the way in which the job has turned to zb which is 100% correct.
Just a different point of view in this video. There will always be someone who will do this job or another, it’s only your choice what you want to do and what you ready to accept.
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Carryfast:
The clue is in the title lorry driver.Just like a train driver or pilot.
Class 1 warehouseman you’re avin a larf.
As I said grovelling muppets.
Some of the best jobs I’ve ever had, on roadshows and exhibition work, only about 5% of the job involved actually driving the thing. Of course, if that doesn’t appeal to someone then it’s their right to decline but these jobs took me further abroad than pretty much anything else and as your perennial complaint is that you could never get continental work…
Carryfast:
robroy:
Winseer:
Why this contant barrage of abuse all the time?.unless and until I find my account here being busted as it has been elsewhere.
There’s a move currently going on meanwhile at DM where I also post a lot, which seems to be aiming to red me off the board along the “two many complaints” angle,
And there it is again, the couple of lines amongst all the endless crap which says it all.
1 .Victim.
2 .It ain’t only us but everybody else who think the same.
When you gonna accept it Winseer??It ain’t ‘everybody else’.There’s a lot which he’s saying about the way in which the job has turned to zb which is 100% correct.
Ok, so it ain’t everybody else, it’s everybody else except you.
Of course the job has turned to ■■■■, tell me something I DON’T know.
Thing is we (who see things as they really are and who can cut through the b/s) know this, we also know nobody is going to stick together, so you adapt and react, saying ■■■■ those who won’t stick by me, I’m gonna knuckle down, make the best of it, and make it as good and as easy for ME…there’s no other way apart from joining the ranks of arse crawlers and yes men and just carry on sucking it up.
A suitable alternative is not getting on a forum and making yourself unpopular constantly whinging and ■■■■ whining what a raw deal you’re getting in life,.and how bad things are for you, like the world owes you a living.
People on here (and apparentlly other forums according to him) keep telling him he’s being a complete whinging ■■■■ pain,.all we get back is another ■■■■ solioquy re.iterating what he’s just said, and illustrating the reason he’s being criticised.
Ok,.as he says ignore his posts, but I secretly find them entertaining…albeit for all the wrong reasons. 
, along the same lines of watching a car crash in slow motion on yer phone.
robroy:
Winseer:
Why this contant barrage of abuse all the time?.unless and until I find my account here being busted as it has been elsewhere.
There’s a move currently going on meanwhile at DM where I also post a lot, which seems to be aiming to red me off the board along the “two many complaints” angle,
And there it is again, the couple of lines amongst all the endless crap which says it all.
1 .Victim.
2 .It ain’t only us but everybody else who think the same.
When you gonna accept it Winseer??
It is about as acceptable as a rigged general election, thanks.
Once again they won’t say what the main reason for leaving the industry like I did is. By the time you wake up get to work do your 15 hour shift then get home it’s all a 17 hour shift. Have a bowl of cornflakes go bed wake up repeat. No social life nothing. Spoke to like crap by warehouse staff and the dolly bird in your transport office tells you after 12 hours work you can still go out and do another three hours.
Spoke to like crap by security guards, office, transport and let’s not forget the stupid mum of the year who drives in front of you with three kids in the back of her car. Also the snitching and grassing that drivers do to each other and they are miserable ■■■■■■■■ who think there hard and wide boys( not all but lots do). A driver just got 14 years prison for killing someone in a car . How about concentrate after 14 hours driving and go on a motorway with idiot suicide drivers.
Oh let’s not forget the pointy shoe wide boy in agency offices and the dolly bird who tries to manipulate to by talking ■■■■ to go do the shift nobody wants. Agencies are nothing but pimps who send you out to be abused, and we’re the prostitutes for doing it …getting ■■■■■■.
Carryfast:
tmcassett:
Carryfast:
A job will entail whatever the company advertising it want it to entail and they have every right to ask for that.If that means a lorry driving job has some element of unloading or other such work then so be it. You seem to have some bee in your bonnet that any job that involves anything other than “a distance” drive from A to B and back again involving a “bulk or full load” is a crime that should not be asked of any “lorry driver”
The clue is in the title lorry driver.Just like a train driver or pilot.
Class 1 warehouseman you’re avin a larf.
As I said grovelling muppets.
Shows what an idiot you are that you are comparing train drivers & pilots to lorry drivers as part of this analogy and trying to prove the point that lorry drivers should do nothing other than drive!
milesahead:
Just a different point of view in this video. There will always be someone who will do this job or another, it’s only your choice what you want to do and what you ready to accept.
Or blatant under cutting of European employment conditions and expectations.
1 year on 45 days off.The EU protected workers utopia.
Harry Monk:
Carryfast:
The clue is in the title lorry driver.Just like a train driver or pilot.
Class 1 warehouseman you’re avin a larf.
As I said grovelling muppets.Some of the best jobs I’ve ever had, on roadshows and exhibition work, only about 5% of the job involved actually driving the thing. Of course, if that doesn’t appeal to someone then it’s their right to decline but these jobs took me further abroad than pretty much anything else and as your perennial complaint is that you could never get continental work…
Like motor racing pit crew that wouldn’t have been on my radar either but it was a very specialised sector that everyone knew/knows the score about so nothing to moan about.It is/was what it is/was, exhibition rigger/pit crew/driver.It’s comparing apples with oranges.The rigger/tyre fitter etc part of the job was an essential requirement of the driver with the compensation of some interesting destinations etc.
But obviously of no interest to anyone wanting to haul freight preferably just switching trailers or demounts.The longer and more interesting and regular the runs the better.Trunking and preferably international trunking being as good as it gets.
While too many jobs are like the ■■■■ taking ad as that shown.When it isn’t driving a building supplies wagon around the local housing estates and yard labourer back at base.Or trunking also meaning warehouse labourer.Then the employers whingeing because even the East Euros or Philipinos don’t want the job.
On that note if anything Winseer is under stating the way in which the job turned to zb.
FFS just employ a warehouseman and employ the truck driver to drive the truck.What’s the problem.If they don’t want to send the truck far enough often enough that’s not the driver’s problem.
tmcassett:
Carryfast:
The clue is in the title lorry driver.Just like a train driver or pilot.
Class 1 warehouseman you’re avin a larf.
As I said grovelling muppets.Shows what an idiot you are that you are comparing train drivers & pilots to lorry drivers as part of this analogy and trying to prove the point that lorry drivers should do nothing other than drive!
I didn’t say nothing other than drive and you know it.
As opposed to a supposed truck driver being a warehouse operative including running a goods inwards operation rather than driving a truck.You’d call that a great job and call anyone who doesn’t agree an idiot.While the employers whinge that no proper driver wants the job.
Yeah right because even the East Euros would rather stay at home and get a proper driving job.You know one which means driving a truck not working in a warehouse as a warehouseman.
Carryfast:
tmcassett:
Carryfast:
The clue is in the title lorry driver.Just like a train driver or pilot.
Class 1 warehouseman you’re avin a larf.
As I said grovelling muppets.Shows what an idiot you are that you are comparing train drivers & pilots to lorry drivers as part of this analogy and trying to prove the point that lorry drivers should do nothing other than drive!
I didn’t say nothing other than drive and you know it.
As opposed to a supposed truck driver being a warehouse operative including running a goods inwards operation rather than driving a truck.You’d call that a great job and call anyone who doesn’t agree an idiot.While the employers whinge that no proper driver wants the job.
Yeah right because even the East Euros would rather stay at home and get a proper driving job.You know one which means driving a truck not working in a warehouse as a warehouseman.
Once again you show why you know nothing about jobs in this industry nor can you actually get one, let alone a decent one!
I’ve had several jobs where I have had to unload (usually at a store/supermarket etc) but it is not quite “running a goods inwards operation” as you suggest.
And yes, they were good jobs on good pay, t&c’s etc.
I reckon the price for Ashley bailing out Arcadia - will be “All workers lose their rights, no pension, and I’ll take back only those who agree to be sacked and re-hired on ZHC”.
…“If you say no, you can kiss the government’s arse rather than mine for some unemployment benefits and minimum government-backed redundancy pay you’re entitled to”
The EU “Worker’s rights” - were merely those cut and pasted from original UK worker’s rights in the first instance…
Those “Rights” that the Europeans seem to hold dear, like “Striking to no avail”, “permanent walk-outs on no-pay basis” or even “Antisocial actions go unpunished”
…Are not really worth much, to the worker when you think about it - are they?
Did anyone get a hefty pay-rise out of this ^^^ action doya think?
tmcassett:
Once again you show why you know nothing about jobs in this industry nor can you actually get one, let alone a decent one!I’ve had several jobs where I have had to unload (usually at a store/supermarket etc) but it is not quite “running a goods inwards operation” as you suggest.
And yes, they were good jobs on good pay, t&c’s etc.
Did you actually read the advert I posted.
Which part of ‘if’ I was looking for a job which I’m not and the details of that vacancy didn’t you understand.
I went out of the job 20 years ago and close to retirement age now.I don’t give a zb about it now and don’t even have a valid HGV licence let alone a DCPC.
You think that supermarket deliveries beat a decent proper trunking job which was most of my time in the job.
Trailer and demount swaps that was it the rest was driving.
Until I was put off with a wrecked back in large part owing to being used as a warehouse hub labourer transhipping trailer loads all hand ball.Because they didn’t want to pay us to sit around watching tele, during the sort, after the change from direct trunks and a grovelling union swallowing it.
Good terms and conditions bs.
So you’ve shifted a few cages or pallets at a supermarket and you think you know it all.Including trying to tell me what I did in the job.Which actually included more than my fair share of building site deliveries, again being used as a site labourer mug before I knew better.
Also general haulage with a stripped down tilt.When you were still at school or even before that by the sound of your naive bs.
Good luck with that.Be careful what you wish for.First in line for the jobs which the East Euros won’t touch.Much better work for them by staying there.
You know actually driving the truck around Europe.Not a forklift and a goods inwards warehouse stock control computer at an office desk.
Winseer:
I reckon the price for Ashley bailing out Arcadia - will be “All workers lose their rights, no pension, and I’ll take back only those who agree to be sacked and re-hired on ZHC”.
…“If you say no, you can kiss the government’s arse rather than mine for some unemployment benefits and minimum government-backed redundancy pay you’re entitled to”The EU “Worker’s rights” - were merely those cut and pasted from original UK worker’s rights in the first instance…
Those “Rights” that the Europeans seem to hold dear, like “Striking to no avail”, “permanent walk-outs on no-pay basis” or even “Antisocial actions go unpunished”
…Are not really worth much, to the worker when you think about it - are they?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bplW2oSF_8
Did anyone get a hefty pay-rise out of this ^^^ action doya think?
Ironically the EU allowed Europhile Thatcher to make a bonfire of UK workers’ rights including effectively the right to strike in the form of secondary/sympathy action.While retaining those rights for French and German workers.
All moot when freedom of labour movement includes Philippinos being allowed to drive trucks in Europe but Brits can’t go to AU/NZ/Canada.
As for the rest.ZHC with the flexibility to add the job title of warehouse operative to LGV class 1 driver.Which effectively means what redundancy if they want to hand the driving work to cheaper foreign competition.
Carryfast:
I went out of the job 20 years ago and close to retirement age now.I don’t give a zb about it now and don’t even have a valid HGV licence let alone a DCPC.
You think that supermarket deliveries beat a decent proper trunking job which was most of my time in the job.
Trailer and demount swaps that was it the rest was driving.Good terms and conditions bs.
So you’ve shifted a few cages or pallets at a supermarket and you think you know it all.Including trying to tell me what I did in the job.Which actually included more than my fair share of building site deliveries, again being used as a site labourer mug before I knew better.
Also general haulage with a stripped down tilt.When you were still at school or even before that by the sound of your naive bs.You know actually driving the truck around Europe.Not a forklift and a goods inwards warehouse stock control computer at an office desk.
Your constant whining on here about not being able to get a job driving round Europe would suggest you do in fact give a zb!
But that’s getting away from the point I originally made. Its not unreasonable for a company to expect you to do something else other than “drive” within your daily duties depending on the nature of the work you do.
tmcassett:
Carryfast:
I went out of the job 20 years ago and close to retirement age now.I don’t give a zb about it now and don’t even have a valid HGV licence let alone a DCPC.
You think that supermarket deliveries beat a decent proper trunking job which was most of my time in the job.
Trailer and demount swaps that was it the rest was driving.Good terms and conditions bs.
So you’ve shifted a few cages or pallets at a supermarket and you think you know it all.Including trying to tell me what I did in the job.Which actually included more than my fair share of building site deliveries, again being used as a site labourer mug before I knew better.
Also general haulage with a stripped down tilt.When you were still at school or even before that by the sound of your naive bs.You know actually driving the truck around Europe.Not a forklift and a goods inwards warehouse stock control computer at an office desk.
Your constant whining on here about not being able to get a job driving round Europe would suggest you do in fact give a zb!
But that’s getting away from the point I originally made. Its not unreasonable for a company to expect you to do something else other than “drive” within your daily duties depending on the nature of the work you do.
Warehouse operative including being responsible for warehouse stock control and records isn’t ‘something else’ other than driving.
Securing loads, slinging overhead loads for tipping, preferably trailer/box swaps, maybe ( sometimes ) running cages pallets out of and onto the truck is all ‘other than driving’.
However if the other than driving outweighs the driving there’s a problem.
It’s not me who’s whining about a ‘driver’ shortage.
As I said be careful what you wish for.
If you’re defending ads like the one I posted you’re effectively saying that you’re a warehouseman not a driver and signing away your redundancy rights and job title as a ‘driver’ with it.What’s being described there isn’t reasonable other duties for the job title.
Just as skilled vehicle condition assessor isn’t reasonable other duties for a trade plate ‘vehicle and collection driver’.It’s a ■■■■ take.
Carryfast:
Warehouse operative including being responsible for warehouse stock control and records isn’t ‘something else’ other than driving.
Securing loads, slinging overhead loads for tipping, preferably trailer/box swaps, maybe ( sometimes ) running cages pallets out of and onto the truck is all ‘other than driving’.
However if the other than driving outweighs the driving there’s a problem.
It’s not me who’s whining about a ‘driver’ shortage.
As I said be careful what you wish for.
If you’re defending ads like the one I posted you’re effectively saying that you’re a warehouseman not a driver and signing away your redundancy rights and job title as a ‘driver’ with it.What’s being described there isn’t reasonable other duties for the job title.
Just as skilled vehicle condition assessor isn’t reasonable other duties for a trade plate ‘vehicle and collection driver’.It’s a ■■■■ take.
I’m totally at a loss and struggling to understand exactly what you are babbling on about being a warehouse stock controller and keeping records etc
Also, you keep mentioning some job advert you posted - again I have no idea what you are on about here?
tmcassett:
Also, you keep mentioning some job advert you posted - again I have no idea what you are on about here?
ULC Robotics is seeking a Class 1 Driver / Warehouse Operative to join a rapidly expanding UK based team that operates and maintains robotic systems which perform critical repairs from within buried natural gas infrastructure. This unique opportunity allows the successful candidates to work within a dynamic environment among some of the brightest minds in the field.
You will work closely with the Logistics Manager to provide support to in house technicians and field crews.
Main Duties:
Receiving and checking incoming goods, with IT system
Retrieving orders according to quantity, size, ensuring accurate
Building pallets with orders, then wrapping the orders
Moving and loading orders with a FLT
Class 1 Driver / Warehouse Operative must have the following:Class 1 Drivers license with proven experience
FLT License
Previous warehouse experience
A hands-on attitude with an inclination toward mechanics and electronics; troubleshooting experience is a major plus
The ability to pass a mandatory drug/alcohol test and background check
The flexibility to be available for travel whenever necessary and to work away remotely for long periods of time in company provided accommodation
A willingness to work outside of normal working hours, including night and weekend work
Fit and able to perform manual duties.
The ability to work within a small team or in some cases alone unsupervised
Excellent communication skills required to work well within a small team and accurately complete reports.
