Yep May’s ‘how to scupper Brexit’ plan appears to have worked, nearly, barring one fly in the ointment for her.
DUP, patriots and conservative, they might yet force her to the Brexit bar after all.
I wonder who in the tory ranks wears size 16 baby-blue shoes a floppy wig and sports a big red joke nose above an upside down painted smile that clashes with their bright green suit, that’s the description of the next clown to replace May.
The DUP may get the torys out of the ■■■■ but they won’t give the torys a free hand on brexit as they need a good relationship with the republic
I voted Tory through gritted teeth. I liked labours policy’s and was set to vote for them.
I just couldn’t vote for them due to the fact corbyn not met and spoke to terrorists but actually called them friends and mourned there deaths.
Well I live in a very strong Labour area and knew ■■■■ well my vote would mean nothing, I voted with my conscience and voted for what I agreed with on my last vote and still agree with now, the UK needs to get away from the EU and it’s forced immigration and relaxing Cabotage rules so I cast my vote for UKIP, I wouldn’t be true to myself if I hadn’t even though it was a wasted vote, seriously, what were the alternatives?
#RIPUK
Reef:
Well I live in a very strong Labour area and knew ■■■■ well my vote would mean nothing, I voted with my conscience and voted for what I agreed with on my last vote and still agree with now, the UK needs to get away from the EU and it’s forced immigration and relaxing Cabotage rules so I cast my vote for UKIP, I wouldn’t be true to myself if I hadn’t even though it was a wasted vote, seriously, what were the alternatives?#RIPUK
We didn’t have that luxury, no UKIP standing.
In the end couldn’t be arsed to even walk up there with the dogs and draw a willy and ■■■■■■■■ on the slip, they weren’t even worth that far as i’m concerned.
Any bugger’s guess what happens next, but a few things are guaranteed, the national debt will continue inexorably towards £2000billion, immigration will continue at an ever increasing rate, the so called right wing will ultimately be blamed for further acts of terrorism for some perceived invented slight, we’ll pay ever more out of our incomes in taxes of one form or another and they’ll still fleece you when you’re old and ill or dead.
Juddian:
Yep May’s ‘how to scupper Brexit’ plan appears to have worked, nearly, barring one fly in the ointment for her.DUP, patriots and conservative, they might yet force her to the Brexit bar after all.
I wonder who in the tory ranks wears size 16 baby-blue shoes a floppy wig and sports a big red joke nose above an upside down painted smile that clashes with their bright green suit, that’s the description of the next clown to replace May.
Unfortunately those so called DUP ‘patriots’ have already made it clear that the price of their support will be soft Brexit ( remain ).
Don’t know where you got the idea that they were ever on the Leave side. 
Reef:
Well I live in a very strong Labour area and knew ■■■■ well my vote would mean nothing, I voted with my conscience and voted for what I agreed with on my last vote and still agree with now, the UK needs to get away from the EU and it’s forced immigration and relaxing Cabotage rules so I cast my vote for UKIP, I wouldn’t be true to myself if I hadn’t even though it was a wasted vote, seriously, what were the alternatives?#RIPUK
+1
I think all those of us who stuck to our guns and stayed with UKIP can be proud that we did everything we possibly could for our country unlike the rest of the muppets who didn’t.While those who switched from UKIP to the Cons or Labour will soon find out their mistake when the Con/Lab/Lib/SNP etc remain alliance totally tears up the Brexit manifesto to be replaced with remain in all but name. 
kr79:
I voted Tory through gritted teeth. I liked labours policy’s and was set to vote for them.
I just couldn’t vote for them due to the fact corbyn not met and spoke to terrorists but actually called them friends and mourned there deaths.
Probably because like him underneath all the bs Nationalist credentials Sinn Fein were always just another bunch of Socialists who’s only allegiance is to their ideology not any country.Which is why Collins,among other true Nationalists,died fighting against the zb’s.
As for Labour’s ‘policies’ how does the muppet intend to deliver and pay for all his promises when just like the Cons they are based on Brit jobs for foreign workers and flooding the country and the labour market with economic migrants.
IE ever increasing demand for social provision and housing and ever decreasing funds to pay for it all.While what cash we have goes to pay for our EU ‘contributions’ and pay for the debt caused by the trade deficit.
While it’s anyone’s guess how you see Corbyn’s hidden remain ( single market ) agenda as a being good for anyone working in the road transport industry as the removal of cabotage restrictions will be the inevitable next move in that regard.With Chuka Ummuna having also made Labour’s real agenda clear last night,that being no change in the EU free movement open door immigration policy as part of that.With it being obvious that there’s no way of stopping free movement while staying with the free karket anyway.IE Corbyn lied to get the UKIP vote and that vote was too naive to see through it.
It was obvious the ukip vote was going to crumble without farage.
May of well voted monster raving looney over them.
kr79:
It was obvious the ukip vote was going to crumble without farage.
May of well voted monster raving looney over them.
Yeah right it was so much better for the Leave vote to believe May’s and Corbyn’s lies and go for Labour’s raving Socialist pro open door immigration agenda than to vote for Nuttal.While Farage hasn’t exactly disappeared from the scene.His only mistake was that he was stupid enough to give May the benefit of the doubt.
While we’re also supposed to believe that much of the Leave vote all suddenly turned remainers in the form of soft Brexit and all suddenly and conveniently,at exactly the same time as May decided to call a sudden needless election having stalled Brexit to do it.Which she and anyone with half a brain cell knew she couldn’t win. 
On that note UKIP’s supposed crumbled vote probably has more to do with how the votes were counted than how many UKIP voters suddenly decided it would be a good idea to vote for May or Corbyn.Also bearing in mind that UKIP chose not to stand in many constituencies thereby reducing its vote count even more.
On that note it’s anyone’s guess how the Leave vote could possibly now supposedly see soft Brexit as a good thing when it clearly voted for hard Brexit in the referendum.Or for that matter,assuming the country suddenly conveniently swung against hard Brexit,as the establishment media is painting it,how do they account for the anomaly of Goldsmith winning back Richmond Park and Raab keeping his massive majority in two massively remain constituencies ?.I smell a rat more like lots.
Prehaps some of us voted on issues other than brexit.
kr79:
Prehaps some of us voted on issues other than brexit.
Firstly there’s no way that Corbyn can meet or pay for any of his promises if we keep paying the EU a fortune for the privilege of importing loads of EU products.Nor can he provide his supposed more jobs or higher wages if he keeps importing more labour to take what jobs we’ve got.
As for the Cons don’t see much difference between any of their policies v Labour or the LibDems anyway.Just with the difference that they’ll hit anyone with private property rights worth stealing for care costs as hard as,if not harder than,the others.While concreting over the South East to house yet more immigrants.
While there’s not much point in any of them pretending to govern the country when we all know that it’s Merkel and Juncker etc pulling their strings at the top.In which case what possible issue is there that doesn’t end up with needing to sort Brexit first ?.Which is what the Cons ‘would’ obviously have done ‘if’ the agenda hadn’t been hijacked by the remainer Cons like May,Hammond and Clark from the start and then predictably sabotaged the process with this stitch up of remain in all but name.Good luck with this industry at least when the flood gates open even more with the inevitable ‘soft Brexit’ ( remain ) deal to follow.Not to mention the national security angle when Merkel forces even more Middle Eastern/North African immigration onto us as part of it.
There’ll be another election next year…
kr79:
Prehaps some of us voted on issues other than brexit.
If we don’t Brexit you won’t need to worry about voting on anything (important) because we won’t get a say anyway 
Reef:
kr79:
Prehaps some of us voted on issues other than brexit.If we don’t Brexit you won’t need to worry about voting on anything (important) because we won’t get a say anyway
^ This.
Which translates as us continuing to pay a fortune in contributions for the privilege of yet more foreign workers taking more Brit jobs either in the form of exporting jobs or importing labour and Merkel etc deciding and imposing our immigration policy.Bearing in mind that so called soft Brexit means remain in that regard at least.
the nodding donkey:
There’ll be another election this year…
FTFY
For anyone interested this is how it would have looked under the fairer proportional representation system
PARTY…PR…GOT…LOSS/GAIN
con…276…318… -42
lab…260…262… -2
lib…48…12… +36
snp…20…35… -15
ukip…12…0… +12
green…11…1… +10
dup…6…10… -4
sinn fein…5…7… -2
plaid cymru…3…4… -1
ind…3…1… +2
ulster union…2…0… +2
sdlp…2…0… +2
other…2…0… +2
TOTAL…650…650
Common sense/logic says that PR is a fairer system as we are voting for a UK wide Govt not a local Govt
Contact your MP and they do not ask who you voted for !
ROG:
For anyone interested this is how it would have looked under the fairer proportional representation systemPARTY…PR…GOT…LOSS/GAIN
con…276…318… -42
lab…260…262… -2
lib…48…12… +36
snp…20…35… -15
ukip…12…0… +12
green…11…1… +10
dup…6…10… -4
sinn fein…5…7… -2
plaid cymru…3…4… -1
ind…3…1… +2
ulster union…2…0… +2
sdlp…2…0… +2
other…2…0… +2
TOTAL…650…650Common sense/logic says that PR is a fairer system as we are voting for a UK wide Govt not a local Govt
Contact your MP and they do not ask who you voted for !
But we would still have a hung parliament.
It may seem fairer, but based on those figures any government that was formed (if a government could be formed) would be unable to do anything of any significance because the ruling party would be dependant on the support of so many other parties.
tachograph:
ROG:
For anyone interested this is how it would have looked under the fairer proportional representation systemPARTY…PR…GOT…LOSS/GAIN
con…276…318… -42
lab…260…262… -2
lib…48…12… +36
snp…20…35… -15
ukip…12…0… +12
green…11…1… +10
dup…6…10… -4
sinn fein…5…7… -2
plaid cymru…3…4… -1
ind…3…1… +2
ulster union…2…0… +2
sdlp…2…0… +2
other…2…0… +2
TOTAL…650…650Common sense/logic says that PR is a fairer system as we are voting for a UK wide Govt not a local Govt
Contact your MP and they do not ask who you voted for !
But we would still have a hung parliament.
It may seem fairer, but based on those figures any government that was formed (if a government could be formed) would be unable to do anything of any significance because the ruling party would be dependant on the support of so many other parties.
That is the idea - they would be forced to work together for the good of the country
ROG:
That is the idea - they would be forced to work together for the good of the country
A government that can’t do anything of any real significance doesn’t seem like the sort of government I would want.
While I don’t always like the governments we end up with I still believe we need strong government that’s capable of making decisions, not weak ineffectual government.