ADR Initial course

Ah yeah sorry guys was to stunned with all of the info dieseldave gave me there.lol.
Im willing to travel all of the North East mate including yorkshire if thats any help.

I did my full ADR course last year and was told by the instructor that the training would count towards the cpc training. A full weeks training would count for 21 hours cpc. The course was very interesting and the exams are all multiple choice and all i can say is make notes lots of notes and study them when u go back home or to your hotel every night. U will sail through the exams if u do this, I passed all my exams and have adr in and out of tankers. The only exception i have is i dont have class 1 and 7 but they are specialist ones so not many jobs in that field. So in doing my refresher course in the next couple of years i will only have to do 2 more days training to do.

cheers for that mosiman007 ive done 14 hours anyway so the 21 will give me my dcpc till 2019.great. :smiley:
So revise like hell and i should pass them! :grimacing:
multiple choice so the answers are in front of me. :open_mouth:

Yep all the answers are in front of u, i had my wife help me revise and ask me questions bout the stuff in had written down. Ure be fine just take ure time in answering the questions. think it was 9 exams i took. the whole course was 4 days learning and the 5th day was all exams. Good luck

Cheers for all of the advice mosiman007.im a real swot when it comes to revision so ill be fine lol.
Again cheers for your advice mate. :smiley:

mosiman007:
I did my full ADR course last year… doing my refresher course in the next couple of years i will only have to do 2 more days training to do.

An ADR refresher is only worth 7 hours of Dcpc but there is nothing to stop you doing the full ADR course again for 21 hours :wink: :bulb:

An ADR course for Dcpc must be approved by JAUPT so check before signing on for it

So when the 5 years is up for the adr Rog you can do the initial course again and bag the 21 hours towards the dcpc for the next 5 years? :smiley:

dazask:
So when the 5 years is up for the adr Rog you can do the initial course again and bag the 21 hours towards the dcpc for the next 5 years? :smiley:

YES - for SQA it will be marked as a refresher, for Dcpc it will count for 21 hours

I don’t know which way it will work out financially best -
ADR refresher (7 for Dcpc) + 2 courses for Dcpc (14 hours) = 21
or
ADR full course (21 for Dcpc)

If I have said that slightly incorrect then dieseldave will shoot me :open_mouth: :wink: :laughing:

Lol shoot ya Dieseldaves not that bad is he Rog?lol :grimacing:

Does anyone know also if the adr training includes fire fighting and first aid exams?
Obviously for carrying hazardous goods you must need training of both.Am i correct?

ROG:

dazask:
So when the 5 years is up for the adr Rog you can do the initial course again and bag the 21 hours towards the dcpc for the next 5 years? :smiley:

YES - for SQA it will be marked as a refresher, for Dcpc it will count for 21 hours

I don’t know which way it will work out financially best -
ADR refresher (7 for Dcpc) + 2 courses for Dcpc (14 hours) = 21
or
ADR full course (21 for Dcpc)

If I have said that slightly incorrect then dieseldave will shoot me :open_mouth: :wink: :laughing:

There’s no shooting needed ROG, but a refresher candidate may sit an initial course and gain the 21 DCPC hours again if they wish. :wink:

The exam failure rates for refresher courses are higher than for initial courses, IMHO there are two reasons for this:

  1. The refresher course lasts for half of the time that an initial course needs, therefore the lessons come in double-quick time. :open_mouth:
  2. Due to 1 above, there has to be an assumption that the candidate has been kept up-to-date by their employer as required by ADR, but in practice this rarely happens. In my experience, most refresher course candidates tend to struggle a bit, because the ADR Regs will have been updated twice, or even three times during the validity of the person’s ADR certificate. :open_mouth:
    :bulb: The ADR Regs are completely revised and republished every TWO years, whereas a driver’s ADR certificate is valid for five years. The next new ADR revision will be valid from 01/01/11.
    I have an advance copy of the proposed changes to occupy me for a while. :neutral_face:

Leaving out the drivers’ updates and expecting full exam passes from a half length course is something that gaffers can’t always have both ways, but I really feel for the candidates in this instance. :frowning:
My advice is that, wherever possible, a refresher candidate attends an initial ADR course, cos it’s far less stressful for them… :smiley:

mosiman007:
Yep all the answers are in front of u, i had my wife help me revise and ask me questions bout the stuff in had written down. Ure be fine just take ure time in answering the questions. think it was 9 exams i took. the whole course was 4 days learning and the 5th day was all exams. Good luck

Hi mosiman007, was your ADR course with N.E.T.A. in Billingham by any chance?? :smiley:

Hiya Dieseldave i was wondering does the adr course also include training/ exams for either or both of first aid and fire fighting techniques?
it would seem obvious as carryingn dangerous goods.

dazask:
Does anyone know also if the adr training includes fire fighting and first aid exams?
Obviously for carrying hazardous goods you must need training of both.Am i correct?

I don’t THINK there are exams on those

I would imagine that any training on those would be done by the company you drive for…

ROG:

dazask:
Does anyone know also if the adr training includes fire fighting and first aid exams?
Obviously for carrying hazardous goods you must need training of both.Am i correct?

I don’t THINK there are exams on those

I would imagine that any training on those would be done by the company you drive for…

Sorry ROG, you’re only nearly right. :wink:

First-aid and fire training are assessed (but not examined) by the ADR instructor, who then signs-off the candidate’s course joining form to that effect.

Of course, if as a result of a company risk-assessment, it is deemed that a driver needs extra fire and/or first-aid training, then other separate courses would be necessary. :smiley:

dazask:
Hiya Dieseldave i was wondering does the adr course also include training/ exams for either or both of first aid and fire fighting techniques?
it would seem obvious as carryingn dangerous goods.

Hi dazask, the subjects of fire and first-aid are covered on an ADR course, usually on a Tuesday morning, but there are no specific exams on those subjects.

There will usually be some questions on fire and first-aid, but they would normally come as part of the core module exam. Please don’t worry about this, because it will all be explained to you as part of the course. :wink:

As I mentioned earlier, the exams are non-technical. :smiley:

dieseldave:
Sorry ROG, you’re only nearly right. :wink:

That’s what comes of sticking my nose in instead of waiting for the expert :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Ah i see Dieseldave so the adr instructor assesses how you do the first aid and fire fighting techniques and signs you off to say you can do it.
Will you get a certificate for that then Dieseldave? :grimacing:

Rog you were right tho,if only partially.lol :smiley:

dazask:
Ah i see Dieseldave so the adr instructor assesses how you do the first aid and fire fighting techniques and signs you off to say you can do it.
Will you get a certificate for that then Dieseldave? :grimacing:

Sorry dazask, I’ve already explained that it’s part of the core module, so assuming that you’re successful in your ADR exams and obtain your ADR certificate, that’s it---- Job done. :smiley:

For ADR’s purposes, you cover the subjects of fire and first-aid, but not at any depth.

If you wish to get a separate first-aid qualification, you should approach a first-aid training provider eg. St John’s.