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Ashamed to be a lorry driver. Just stopped in a lay by on the A14 to look at my map. I am appalled at the litter and all manner of nasty things strewn around. It's not as if a bin hasn't been supplied. And they moan cos we are viewed in a bad light.
Anyone else noticed this issue getting worse?
I'ts not necessary all us lorry drivers who leave their crap behind i've seen many a time teenagers chucking out their empty fast food packets and bottles onto verges as well as other types of people dumping things.
.."Adding value down the line".. yeah right.
I try and resist (really ) to comment (again yawn!) about lay by parking, but if proper parking facilities ,as there once was, were to be provided, and we were treated like human beings instead of one step up from the (banned on here ) "P" word people, the problem would be only partly sorted. O/night lay by parking was banned in parts of Cumbria because of mess, but I never saw any artics going through the source of most of the said rubbish, ie Maccy Ds drive thru, but as usual the truckers were blamed.
Agree about lack of proper facilities, but even if you provide the perfect parking area, some [zb] will still throw their rubbish out of the window. On the track in my village where I walk my dog, somebody recently dumped 3 black bags of household rubbish in the ditch. It's well away from any houses, they must have driven there, there's a free public tip a mile or so away --- I rest my case.
off topic a tad but I the same sort of category
Delivering to Usk Garden centre yesterday ..driver pulls out from delivering and pulls up in the car park out the way.
As I pull round to back up he's stood at front of his motor washing the wheel
All the [zb] had to do was walk 50yrds to the main building and use the loo...
Ain't that the truth. Few weeks ago I was in Collumpton services and they seem to be a meeting point for groups of youngsters showing off their cars and the like. The piles of Maccy D packaging left either side of the vehicles was shocking, and the Boys in Blue who were also in attendance didn't seem unduly bothered. That said I did also see a trucker use the rubber urinal so maybe the race is to the bottom when thinking of decent behaviour.
Have the courage to challenge the things you can't accept, the serenity to accept the things you cannot change and the wisdom to know the difference.
That's the trouble with alot of people in today's world, their too damn lazy to get off their backside and put stuff in the bin. I was taught from a young age (by parents and through school), that littering was bad/selfish/lazy/scruffy etc. I'd feel too guilty to throw my rubbish on the floor these days, just built in now to keep hold of it until I find a bin.
was once walking past a learner who was parked at stockyard ts ,the driver chucked some paper out of his window so i picked it up handed it back to him an said "ere drive ,think you dropped summat" ,the look on his face was priceless
not skippin along
Most Likely 7 things to be found in laybys:-
Discarded brown bags with half-eaten fast food
2ltr coke bottles filled with what appears to be piss (No, I'm not going to open one to see if it's actually lemon and lime!)
Fallen off mudguards - small ones
Second Hand condoms - only judged to be second hand, because they look slimey on the ground, and are out of their packet.
Empty "Strong Brew" tins - Do any pro drivers actually drink this stuff?
A parked-up nobbies or stobart combination hogging whatever space there might have been for another wagon to park up...
Some middle-aged git trying to sell insurance (Some of them are female "gits" too - tweedy suits, stink of beer and fags, and yet a well-spoken home counties accent...)
Out of the 7, only the actual wagons themselves are clearly related to lorry drivers.... At least I'd hope so.
..and here's 7 things the public think lorry drivers leave in laybys
Fast food bags
Dead women rolled up in a carpet
Dead rats cleaned out of the overhead locker
Puddles of piss
Trailers, which someone in a car will park right in front of
The wagons themselves - many members of the public don't realise that there are drivers asleep in them!
Blame others...it's the easiest way! Litter louts are scum.....If there are no available bins...keep the rubbish and put it in the next available bin.
Lorry drivers ....car drivers.....every day throwing rubbish out their windows.....scum of the earth.
Just a thought- have others returned to a trailer in their unit only to find another-locked- vehicle blocking the trailer in? How have they got round the problem? And were they supposed to have dropped the trailer there in the first place?
3 or possibly 4 are spot on, draw your own conclusions which depending on your habits
A free LGV parking area in Melksham got closed down, neighbours reported the area being used as a loo, and urine along their fences, one resident told the paper that she saw a female driver getting undressed in her sleeper cab, complaints of noise and general nuisance, so the council shut it to trucks.
I've dropped the trailer in a layby once so I could get into a petrol station and came back and someone had tipped a load of gravel in front of it. Luckily a bloke turned up with a 8 wheel grab about 20 minutes later and then spent well over an hour clearing it out of the way. It was one with a big grass separation so hooking up at right angles wasn't an option.
Maybe I should learn my lesson in going off the beaten track for fuel.
It is a socioty in general problem with litter but drivers pulling up in a services etc and getting out pissing up the wheel is disgusting. Nothing worse than opening your door to be greeted by that stale piss smell
You gotta go there to come back
I sometimes walk my dogs on the North downs but in the middle of the back of nowhere I find a parking area, it's full of McD&KFC wrappers Red Bull cans&Glens vodka bottles, lorry drivers I think not,must be the local chavs/townies/neds (delete as required depending on your location)
Theres layby I know off where the guy who runs the burger van pressure washs it every day but the over night parkers foul it again night after night(I think he's p***ing against the wind)
Well, this is what I posted a little later in the day
The big question is, if I feel that strongly about this, does it warrant me stopping there and clearing it up. Firstly to get it tidied up, secondly to show how appalled I am and finally, to maybe, just maybe draw some attention to the issue and maybe even shame some into doing the right thing. Ok, so maybe a little dramatic, but how many time have you dived into a lay by with your children on board to answer a call of nature ? Do you want them to see this???? No? Me either. No wonder industrial estates get parking restrictions. As far as Johnny Foreigner is concerned, I have no doubt they they are offenders in this matter, but I wouldn't mind betting that those that park there just chuck stuff out of the window cos it's what others do. I know one thing, from now on, when I park up, I'll take a walk with a carrier bag around the estate where I park. Small gesture? Every little helps
I will admit I have never picked up rubbish and bottles of piss from laybys ... But I have picked up litter in my street and outside the local school whilst taking my little girl there.
As for laybys there is not a driver on here that has not have to dive into one to hàve a piss up the wheel or worse.
And fair play to you for walkin with a carrier bag and clearing the rubbish up,from now on I will do the same!
But you know what they are like on here they will say your tacho needs to be on other work or VOSA will fine you £87 for falsifying your records ..
Just a thought .... If every driver picked up some rubbish from a layby ... just a carrier bag full... instead of waxing his carrot the laybys would be a slightly better place to park ? I for one have no problem picking a few bits of crap up that's for sure .. Beats sitting in the cab ... not waxing my carrot... but waiting for my rest time to be up ...
You never know you might pick up something interesting like a .... hammer or a set of socket spanners ? ..
..This bottle of piss thing. What IS that all about?
Do they get used as hospital urinal bottle thingies by blokes with very small dicks or am I way off-beam here?
It can't be anyone pissing in one whilst going along either, because you'd just spray it all over the place.. I'd imagine.
Then there's the observation that when you drive past such a 2ltr bottle on the hard shoulder or find them in laybys, they are always full to the brim with the top tightly screwed on by the looks of it too!
The issue of people leaving rubbish everywhere or just lorry drivers ? People are just people and everyone leaves rubbish everywhere, retail parks, shopping centres, near their own homes etc..
Great initiative started by Estonia, worked very well............
Not sure the planet got cleaned up although its a great idea. And the biggest trashers are usually the biggest companies.
Mike-c..... You're making a fool of yourself.
What? - And parked in a dark layby in the middle of nowhere a driver cannot be bothered to climb down from his cab, and piss in so much as the bushes nearby?
These bottles are not seen strewn around industrial estates - just countryside locations. There's probably a camera on them in the industrial estate in any case. In a country layby, you can pretty much do anything unobserved, which strongly correlates to the chances of diesel theft too no doubt...
A piss bottle - Laziness par excellance?
Are we going to find bags and bags of discarded horseburgers in the coming weeks doya think?
What NEXT to be found in a layby? - Lord Lucan or at least his body rendered into Michael Mouse's Beefstakes?
Too much risk of potentially treading in crap
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