South Wales Hauliers sixties and seventies onwards.

[komatsu 450]

A B Freight part of K N K Transport had all types of vehicles including this crane

[yanto36]

Hi Lads
The K series Dodge that was spotted one early morning in Llantwit Fardre is mine!,and i was taking it to Llantrisant Testing station to get an MOT,it is just a chassis cab at the moment and i am having problems getting it MOT'd because i had the by the book MOT inspector who said as it was not capable of carrying a load he could not MOT it.told him it was in memory of my grandfather and would never be used apart from shows but to no avail.
Bought from Castle Carey, whilst i was at the testing station one of the inspectors asked who owned the Dodge and when i said it was mine he said he could remember working on it in Tondu garages as it was new to the National Coal Board and he still had work shop paperwork for it! So i've brought her back home.Showed her at my local car show in Tonyrefail last year and a fella came up to me and said he could remember driving it for the National Coal Board and she was one of three new to the NCB GHB 333N GHB 334N and mine GHB335N.Hope this helps solve the mystery.
Hopefully get an MOT this Summer and make the V8 540 turbo sing!

[Paul John]

Yanto 36, thats a great story. You say its got a turbo on it. I must admit I did not know perkins did one. I drove a 6 wheel tipper m reg with a 510 V8, which was also ex coalboard obo 296 m.

Andrew, I was having photo withdrawal, so being that this is a site about lorries and diesel engines, I thought I would inject some humor.

Komatsu 450, great batch of photos.

Regards Paul

[gah1950]

hello paul john.
i can remember the dodge you refer to, there was three of them if i remember correctly and they spent a great deal of their lives hauling shale from taff merthyr colliery up to the graig valley in bedlinog.i also remember two eight wheeler fodens s80 s that were also used on the same task.do you remember a driver from the ncb called dennis booth, he was based in brittania transport pool.i think the fodens index was obo 250m & obo251m please correct me if i am wrong.
regards graham.

[scooter1]

This V8 Mastiff was once owned by M J Sargent running out of Lithalun Quarry

hi ant how u doing ? anymore pics of this lorry,, dont ever think ive seen this one or remember her. the old man had a similar looking riever but aint got one single pic of that eiether..ps' really enjoying the pics

[Paul John]

hello paul john.
i can remember the dodge you refer to, there was three of them if i remember correctly and they spent a great deal of their lives hauling shale from taff merthyr colliery up to the graig valley in bedlinog.i also remember two eight wheeler fodens s80 s that were also used on the same task.do you remember a driver from the ncb called dennis booth, he was based in brittania transport pool.i think the fodens index was obo 250m & obo251m please correct me if i am wrong.
regards graham.

Hi Graham, back in 1981 obo 296m was owned by Alan Price. It was 6 yrs old and pretty well worn out. It was my first motor and used only on daywork for the NCB. I think the fartherst I took her was Cwm Ebbw Vale. The alloy body was in good shape, and transferred to a road going dodge on a p plate. Alan and I went over to Aberdare to pick this up, it had been standing for a while but was in good shape. This was good enough to run with the Deutz's.
I didn't know Dennis Booth, and can not remember the Fodens. There was a NCB D series 6 wheel Ford with a V8 Cummins in it, and I would fly by it.
The only guys I remember, from the pool was Des Leddington, Frankie Minton and Tom Burchill.

Regards Paul

[yanto36]

Yanto 36, thats a great story. You say its got a turbo on it. I must admit I did not know perkins did one. I drove a 6 wheel tipper m reg with a 510 V8, which was also ex coalboard obo 296 m.

Andrew, I was having photo withdrawal, so being that this is a site about lorries and diesel engines, I thought I would inject some humor.

Komatsu 450, great batch of photos.

Regards Paul

Hi Paul
It is an amazing story and i could'nt believe it when they came upto me.My fathers business used to run red shale back in the 70's aswell from tips in Cileley, Tonyrefail, Maesteg and Havards in Ton Pentre, so that's why i've always loved the old dodge k series!

She is fitted with a v8 540 turbo which the previous owner put in out of a dennis fire engine and he moved the tandem axle forward to make her into a artic unit but i had to remove it to try and mot it. Ian

[malcolm kirk]

hello paul john.
i can remember the dodge you refer to, there was three of them if i remember correctly and they spent a great deal of their lives hauling shale from taff merthyr colliery up to the graig valley in bedlinog.i also remember two eight wheeler fodens s80 s that were also used on the same task.do you remember a driver from the ncb called dennis booth, he was based in brittania transport pool.i think the fodens index was obo 250m & obo251m please correct me if i am wrong.
regards graham.

Hi Graham, back in 1981 obo 296m was owned by Alan Price. It was 6 yrs old and pretty well worn out. It was my first motor and used only on daywork for the NCB. I think the fartherst I took her was Cwm Ebbw Vale. The alloy body was in good shape, and transferred to a road going dodge on a p plate. Alan and I went over to Aberdare to pick this up, it had been standing for a while but was in good shape. This was good enough to run with the Deutz's.
I didn't know Dennis Booth, and can not remember the Fodens. There was a NCB D series 6 wheel Ford with a V8 Cummins in it, and I would fly by it.
The only guys I remember, from the pool was Des Leddington, Frankie Minton and Tom Burchill.

Regards Paul

I have a photo of a 'Ballroom Cab' Foden in a restored condition on display at Madiera Drive in Brighton. Its restored in its NCB livery and its reg is OBO 251 M, so hopefully its still about somewhere.

[malcolm kirk]

Hi Lads
The K series Dodge that was spotted one early morning in Llantwit Fardre is mine!,and i was taking it to Llantrisant Testing station to get an MOT,it is just a chassis cab at the moment and i am having problems getting it MOT'd because i had the by the book MOT inspector who said as it was not capable of carrying a load he could not MOT it.told him it was in memory of my grandfather and would never be used apart from shows but to no avail.
Bought from Castle Carey, whilst i was at the testing station one of the inspectors asked who owned the Dodge and when i said it was mine he said he could remember working on it in Tondu garages as it was new to the National Coal Board and he still had work shop paperwork for it! So i've brought her back home.Showed her at my local car show in Tonyrefail last year and a fella came up to me and said he could remember driving it for the National Coal Board and she was one of three new to the NCB GHB 333N GHB 334N and mine GHB335N.Hope this helps solve the mystery.
Hopefully get an MOT this Summer and make the V8 540 turbo sing!

I am glad I was not losing my marbles I guessed it was running down to the MOT station. Well done Yanto36, cant wait to see it in daylight in the flesh.

[Paul John]

Hi Lads
The K series Dodge that was spotted one early morning in Llantwit Fardre is mine!,and i was taking it to Llantrisant Testing station to get an MOT,it is just a chassis cab at the moment and i am having problems getting it MOT'd because i had the by the book MOT inspector who said as it was not capable of carrying a load he could not MOT it.told him it was in memory of my grandfather and would never be used apart from shows but to no avail.
Bought from Castle Carey, whilst i was at the testing station one of the inspectors asked who owned the Dodge and when i said it was mine he said he could remember working on it in Tondu garages as it was new to the National Coal Board and he still had work shop paperwork for it! So i've brought her back home.Showed her at my local car show in Tonyrefail last year and a fella came up to me and said he could remember driving it for the National Coal Board and she was one of three new to the NCB GHB 333N GHB 334N and mine GHB335N.Hope this helps solve the mystery.
Hopefully get an MOT this Summer and make the V8 540 turbo sing!

I am glad I was not losing my marbles I guessed it was running down to the MOT station. Well done Yanto36, cant wait to see it in daylight in the flesh.

Malcolm, well spotted, not a skip but a 6x4 tractor. Well a 6x4 tipper chassis cut down to a tractor.

yanto 36, I would not want to take advantage of pete359 good nature or put him on the spot, but he has a wealth of knowledge regarding show trucks and may be able to advise you with the plating problems along with other members of this site.

Good Luck Paul

[malcolm kirk]

Hi Lads
The K series Dodge that was spotted one early morning in Llantwit Fardre is mine!,and i was taking it to Llantrisant Testing station to get an MOT,it is just a chassis cab at the moment and i am having problems getting it MOT'd because i had the by the book MOT inspector who said as it was not capable of carrying a load he could not MOT it.told him it was in memory of my grandfather and would never be used apart from shows but to no avail.
Bought from Castle Carey, whilst i was at the testing station one of the inspectors asked who owned the Dodge and when i said it was mine he said he could remember working on it in Tondu garages as it was new to the National Coal Board and he still had work shop paperwork for it! So i've brought her back home.Showed her at my local car show in Tonyrefail last year and a fella came up to me and said he could remember driving it for the National Coal Board and she was one of three new to the NCB GHB 333N GHB 334N and mine GHB335N.Hope this helps solve the mystery.
Hopefully get an MOT this Summer and make the V8 540 turbo sing!

I am glad I was not losing my marbles I guessed it was running down to the MOT station. Well done Yanto36, cant wait to see it in daylight in the flesh.

Malcolm, well spotted, not a skip but a 6x4 tractor. Well a 6x4 tipper chassis cut down to a tractor.

yanto 36, I would not want to take advantage of pete359 good nature or put him on the spot, but he has a wealth of knowledge regarding show trucks and may be able to advise you with the plating problems along with other members of this site.

Good Luck Paul

It was a dark wet morning and it was in a convoy of wagons, and at 7.15 my eyes were'nt quite open!!! There are now 265 Commercials on the Caitlin House register, this will be the only Dodge, fantastic effort! Could it still have a tipper body fitted?, or is it now too short?

[komatsu 450]

[komatsu 450]

[gah1950]

hello paul john.
thanks for the info on the dodge,if the truck is ex ncb i am pretty sure there were three in total along with the two foden s80 s. the main reason for the purchase of these tippers was the arial flight that took the waste from taff merthyr colliery& the trelewis drift mine was decomissioned and the waste was transported to the graig valley.when the tipping area up the graig was full the waste was then transported by rail to the nelson bog, all of these trucks had a real dogging in a few short years.
regards graham.

[gah1950]

hello malcolm kirk.
i am not sure who commented on the photo of the foden s80,if it was you could you upload on trucknet please.
regards graham.

[3300John]

Hi Lads
The K series Dodge that was spotted one early morning in Llantwit Fardre is mine!,and i was taking it to Llantrisant Testing station to get an MOT,it is just a chassis cab at the moment and i am having problems getting it MOT'd because i had the by the book MOT inspector who said as it was not capable of carrying a load he could not MOT it.told him it was in memory of my grandfather and would never be used apart from shows but to no avail.
Bought from Castle Carey, whilst i was at the testing station one of the inspectors asked who owned the Dodge and when i said it was mine he said he could remember working on it in Tondu garages as it was new to the National Coal Board and he still had work shop paperwork for it! So i've brought her back home.Showed her at my local car show in Tonyrefail last year and a fella came up to me and said he could remember driving it for the National Coal Board and she was one of three new to the NCB GHB 333N GHB 334N and mine GHB335N.Hope this helps solve the mystery.
Hopefully get an MOT this Summer and make the V8 540 turbo sing!

I am glad I was not losing my marbles I guessed it was running down to the MOT station. Well done Yanto36, cant wait to see it in daylight in the flesh.

Hiya ...stick a van body on your dodge put some seats and a cooker in the van with a bed and its mot exempt its a living van and cannot carry a load.
if you look around there are loads of logs with a caravan hideing inside. my mate has a tipper trailer fitted out and thats mot exempt.
good luck beat the system.
John

Malcolm, well spotted, not a skip but a 6x4 tractor. Well a 6x4 tipper chassis cut down to a tractor.

yanto 36, I would not want to take advantage of pete359 good nature or put him on the spot, but he has a wealth of knowledge regarding show trucks and may be able to advise you with the plating problems along with other members of this site.

Good Luck Paul

It was a dark wet morning and it was in a convoy of wagons, and at 7.15 my eyes were'nt quite open!!! There are now 265 Commercials on the Caitlin House register, this will be the only Dodge, fantastic effort! Could it still have a tipper body fitted?, or is it now too short?

[pete 359]

hi all,
yes john you are right mate.allthough i and several other members have heard that vosa are making attempts at blocking all vehicles mot exempt status.i/we are led to believe that vosa propose everything that is now mot exempt,will when they say so at some point in the future ,require a full annual mot on a lighter note here's one from, in my opinion the biggest name in tipper haulage in south wales.alan price and sons from bargoed have gone from strength to strength over the many years that they have been in the haulage industry.
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[pete 359]

i see these trucks everyday coming into south cornelly,noticed a smart fh this afternoon a customer of ours that runs an identical outfit to this one tells me these motors are 22 tonnes empty.
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[pete 359]

a celtic recycling man and hino.the hino is only 2 years old and is already rusting away like a 1974 ford cortina.
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[pete 359]

a scania and a "trabant",as the celtic boys call their renault premium's.
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[pete 359]

an eight wheeler trabant.
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[pete 359]

to be fair,these trabants have the 460 volvo engine and the brilliant i shift,so they go fairly well.
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[Paul John]

i see these trucks everyday coming into south cornelly,noticed a smart fh this afternoon a customer of ours that runs an identical outfit to this one tells me these motors are 22 tonnes empty.
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Andrew thanks for that pic mate. As it happens it was July 1982 I started at Alan Price & sons, the tel No is still the same. All their work then prior to the miners strike was local, I left for the smoke looking to gain more experience and go over the water.

Graham, you have a great memory, the nelson bog Wow! By road you could access the bog opposite Penallta colliery, which along with Abernant were the main blending plants. You will probably remember, K+J plant hire, Shorts, Cossletts and Taff plant hire all working in that area.
That hill going out of Bedlinog would of taken its toll on all those trucks, just as the slip road did running 8 trips / day out of Merthyr Vale to the shale tips.

REgards Paul

[Dave the Renegade]

I posted these on the Border thread last night,as Graham is a South Wales man,here they are.

Graham arriving with his escort vehicle in front at the Strinds/Dolyhir quarries on the Welsh Border,near Kington.

Graham was fetching a Locotrack crusher to the quarry.





















Seen below is a similar Locotrack crusher to the one Graham was carrying.

[yanto36]

Hi Lads
The K series Dodge that was spotted one early morning in Llantwit Fardre is mine!,and i was taking it to Llantrisant Testing station to get an MOT,it is just a chassis cab at the moment and i am having problems getting it MOT'd because i had the by the book MOT inspector who said as it was not capable of carrying a load he could not MOT it.told him it was in memory of my grandfather and would never be used apart from shows but to no avail.
Bought from Castle Carey, whilst i was at the testing station one of the inspectors asked who owned the Dodge and when i said it was mine he said he could remember working on it in Tondu garages as it was new to the National Coal Board and he still had work shop paperwork for it! So i've brought her back home.Showed her at my local car show in Tonyrefail last year and a fella came up to me and said he could remember driving it for the National Coal Board and she was one of three new to the NCB GHB 333N GHB 334N and mine GHB335N.Hope this helps solve the mystery.
Hopefully get an MOT this Summer and make the V8 540 turbo sing!

I am glad I was not losing my marbles I guessed it was running down to the MOT station. Well done Yanto36, cant wait to see it in daylight in the flesh.

Hiya ...stick a van body on your dodge put some seats and a cooker in the van with a bed and its mot exempt its a living van and cannot carry a load.
if you look around there are loads of logs with a caravan hideing inside. my mate has a tipper trailer fitted out and thats mot exempt.
good luck beat the system.
John

Malcolm, well spotted, not a skip but a 6x4 tractor. Well a 6x4 tipper chassis cut down to a tractor.

yanto 36, I would not want to take advantage of pete359 good nature or put him on the spot, but he has a wealth of knowledge regarding show trucks and may be able to advise you with the plating problems along with other members of this site.

Good Luck Paul

It was a dark wet morning and it was in a convoy of wagons, and at 7.15 my eyes were'nt quite open!!! There are now 265 Commercials on the Caitlin House register, this will be the only Dodge, fantastic effort! Could it still have a tipper body fitted?, or is it now too short?

Hi Malcolm, she is to the spec that dodge used to offer ie short wheelbase so she is long enough to put a tipper body on and i would love to do that but i want to put a telehoist body on so it is like the one my grandfather and father operated but you have to eat the elephant in small chunks!!

[malcolm kirk]

Hi Lads
The K series Dodge that was spotted one early morning in Llantwit Fardre is mine!,and i was taking it to Llantrisant Testing station to get an MOT,it is just a chassis cab at the moment and i am having problems getting it MOT'd because i had the by the book MOT inspector who said as it was not capable of carrying a load he could not MOT it.told him it was in memory of my grandfather and would never be used apart from shows but to no avail.
Bought from Castle Carey, whilst i was at the testing station one of the inspectors asked who owned the Dodge and when i said it was mine he said he could remember working on it in Tondu garages as it was new to the National Coal Board and he still had work shop paperwork for it! So i've brought her back home.Showed her at my local car show in Tonyrefail last year and a fella came up to me and said he could remember driving it for the National Coal Board and she was one of three new to the NCB GHB 333N GHB 334N and mine GHB335N.Hope this helps solve the mystery.
Hopefully get an MOT this Summer and make the V8 540 turbo sing!

I am glad I was not losing my marbles I guessed it was running down to the MOT station. Well done Yanto36, cant wait to see it in daylight in the flesh.

Hiya ...stick a van body on your dodge put some seats and a cooker in the van with a bed and its mot exempt its a living van and cannot carry a load.
if you look around there are loads of logs with a caravan hideing inside. my mate has a tipper trailer fitted out and thats mot exempt.
good luck beat the system.
John

Malcolm, well spotted, not a skip but a 6x4 tractor. Well a 6x4 tipper chassis cut down to a tractor.

yanto 36, I would not want to take advantage of pete359 good nature or put him on the spot, but he has a wealth of knowledge regarding show trucks and may be able to advise you with the plating problems along with other members of this site.

Good Luck Paul

It was a dark wet morning and it was in a convoy of wagons, and at 7.15 my eyes were'nt quite open!!! There are now 265 Commercials on the Caitlin House register, this will be the only Dodge, fantastic effort! Could it still have a tipper body fitted?, or is it now too short?

Hi Malcolm, she is to the spec that dodge used to offer ie short wheelbase so she is long enough to put a tipper body on and i would love to do that but i want to put a telehoist body on so it is like the one my grandfather and father operated but you have to eat the elephant in small chunks!!

There is a six wheeler tipper at Caitlin House. If it becomes available I will let you know.

[komatsu 450]

Had this photo off my mate gareth his father Bill Evans from brynmenyn drove this scammell when it was new for P & P which was on the post earlier

[dai cap]

Had this photo off my mate gareth his father Bill Evans from brynmenyn drove this scammell when it was new for P & P which was on the post earlier

I remember Mr Bill Evans when I was a young boy having a new Leyland Octobus belonging io B R S.he used to pass my house going home, his son Allan drove for Joint Motorways I have'nt seen him for a number of years Dai Davies

[pete 359]

Had this photo off my mate gareth his father Bill Evans from brynmenyn drove this scammell when it was new for P & P which was on the post earlier

I remember Mr Bill Evans when I was a young boy having a new Leyland Octobus belonging io B R S.he used to pass my house going home, his son Allan drove for Joint Motorways I have'nt seen him for a number of years Dai Davies

hello dai,
now the penny has dropped,bill evans,i think he was known as curly bill?my father has mentioned him to me many times.his son alan did work for joints on the road and in their office.by coincidence bill's grandson mark came into see me yesterday after he had an acccident with a large branch that fell off a tree,causing a fair amount of damage to his boss' fh,as can be seen.
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[pete 359]

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