So after driving trucks for over 2 yrs it finally happened. I stopped for my 45min. break decided to get out for a bladder relief before setting the tacho on break (few more mins of skeep hey hey) went back in, set my phone alarm to ring in 48 mins (even more free mims of sleep hey hey heeey)
Wake up, pour coffee-off I go then. Except the dashboard is flashing gor a driving break yup I never set the tacho so it recorded 1hr other work
Thatâs also going to give me an over 6hr on duty without break infringement on top of being âlateâ. Should I admit to the break tacho f up or keep quiet and show up 15 mins early for the remaining 4 days of the week, that way if someone looks into it I can say hey hey hey, I made up for it (hourly paid so yeah it would be taking the pss if I keep quiet and proceed as normal)
Iâve done the same. But at Tesco. They didnt care, other than the minor infringment.
Depends what you boss is like. With me I just done a print out wrote on the back that I forget to set it to break. And when the inquisitor squad at Tesco pulled me on it I just told them I forget to set tacho to break and they was âye, I dont care fill in the form saying you wont do it againâ
Always be up front. Itâs just an infringement - two printouts, wring mode selected, keep one, give them one, sign a bit of paper at some point and on you go. Everyone makes mistakes and that.
But by sounds of it you get deducted breaks? Then you go on ad it looks like youâre trying to get that time back? Might be wrong but its early and thats how it comes across to me. Thats more of a sticky wicket, a deliberate act, which is less defensible.
I guess honesty is the best policy and youâve made a mistake so it might cost a bit.
toonsy:
Always be up front. Itâs just an infringement - two printouts, wring mode selected, keep one, give them one, sign a bit of paper at some point and on you go. Everyone makes mistakes and that.
But by sounds of it you get deducted breaks? Then you go on ad it looks like youâre trying to get that time back? Might be wrong but its early and thats how it comes across to me. Thats more of a sticky wicket, a deliberate act, which is less defensible.
I guess honesty is the best policy and youâve made a mistake so it might cost a bit.
Yeah unpaid breaks but only up to 45 mins. (actually 45 auto deducted no matter if I take 15, 30 or 90 mins) so I always do 45 (well 50-55 honestly but then again I show up for work a few (up to 15) mins early which again I donât get paid for so itâs all fair in my viewâŚ
I wanted to but there were other drivers there during debrief so my balls shrunk, lol. Too many times have I made fun of fellow drivers in front of the transport clerks for their mistakes, now KARMA bithc I was only 30mins late anywayâŚIâll make up for it tomorrow by employing some ⌠creative time management
I canât believe what an idiot I am, I felt like a proper muppet. Familiarity/repetition usually results in improved efficiency but also complacency.
adam277:
Iâve done the same. But at Tesco. They didnt care, other than the minor infringment.
Depends what you boss is like.
HeâsâŚnot very nice (the TM). I rarely see him because only suckers work nights and weekends. In fact I think he may be on holiday this week.
I know Ive probably done the same thing in the past year, all I did was pull over and take another 45 in the next lay-by, then when I got back I casually mentioned the mistake, and nothing was said because Id kept myself legal
ââCONFESSââ â â
Confess to what exactlyâ â ?
'Am I missing something here?
Have you missed a bit out where you ran somebody over after your break? and did a runner.
Or did you demolish a building or something?..or rob the fuel station?
You made a MISTAKE , do a printout and forget about it, nobodyâs died ffs.
Move on.
If your company looks upon this as a crime worse than â â â â genocide in their pretentious â â â â âŚââDebreif sessionsââ âŚ, that is their problem not yours, youâve done your bit, youâve verbally explained and youâve backed that up with a printoutâŚend of, job done.
Oh I forgot to mention,.change jobs to a realistic type company whose heads arenât up their own arses, if you take all their petty crap seriously, it just encourages them and makes them worse.
Then you tell us youâve gained a couple of paltry minutes as if youâve won some sort of victory,.and went out on a limb to achieve it.
Maybe itâs just me, I donât know.
Sorry, but I often wonder wtf has happened to this job. .
Yeah been there done that nothing that a phone call and a manual entry will not fix
A very long time ago i got an infringement for 44mins 30 secs ( young dumb and green as grass )
from then on its usually stop. 10 mins otherwork ie paperwork 50 mins break no one has EVER commented on it
the inception of didgi tachos has helped in this with the ability to print out etc
my argument is that its over the 45 min minimum so zero argument can be made by anybody
Iâd sack you , does my head in , â â â â â â â day shift drivers that feel the need to get in the bunk when doing there 8/9 hr shift , grease / dirt everywhere , why donât you spend those 45 mins cleaning the tip youâve created in the previous 4 hrs rather that â â â â â â â â Up our lorries we live in all week
toonsy:
Always be up front. Itâs just an infringement - two printouts, wring mode selected, keep one, give them one, sign a bit of paper at some point and on you go. Everyone makes mistakes and that.
+1
Itâs like forgetting to pull your card on a night time, youâve got 11+ hours of other work, no big deal apart from having to take your 45â earlier than normal the next day to get back on track with the tacho: cover your â â â â with the printouts and carry on.
Bet i do this every couple of months, just sigh at me forgetfulness and brew up again whilst taking the break i should have, nothing ever been said and i donât bother mentioning it (seldom does it involve an infringement cos i donât push things to the last minute), if you start to report such non events to the twerps theyâll get an even bigger overinflated opinion of their importance and struggle to get their head through the door.
Been there, done that. As has been previously stated Iâd just do two printouts, sign them with explanation. Keep a copy for yourself. Been caught out with tacho saying 45 minutes but I now always let it click until at least 46 just to be sure. I get all breaks paid but as soon my break is legally completed I just want to crack on whether thatâs back to the depot, next customer, or overnight â â â â â â â â â â â â .
dozy:
Iâd sack you , does my head in , â â â â â â â day shift drivers that feel the need to get in the bunk when doing there 8/9 hr shift , grease / dirt everywhere , why donât you spend those 45 mins cleaning the tip youâve created in the previous 4 hrs rather that [zb] Up our lorries we live in all week
We donât do nights out, all of us 100% are day/night drivers and no one has an allocated vehicle. I take my shoes off and leave them in the drivers footwell, clean up at services and then at the yard at the end of the shift. Our bunks are actually some of the cleanest Iâve seen (and Iâve seen - not used but seen - a lot on my time with agencies) certainly about 10x cleaner than the average tramperâs bed who drives for the average transport (Iâm sorry - LOGISTICs) company. We donât get paid 9ÂŁ per hour so we actually value our job and trucks which most of them are <2 years old and our company isnât named after the boss or his dad.
Now, this is the part where Iâm supposed to throw a bunch of insults at you but since nature has already dealt you some pretty â â â â â â cards Iâll simply leave it at that.
Glad i work for a small old school family haulage firm where i wouldnât ever have to worry about these trivial mistakes.
Hats off to you lads who work for large well known firms where the slightest infringement means you have to sign paperwork and receive counselling like some naughty schoolboy
ArcticMonkey:
Hats off to you lads who work for large well known firms where the slightest infringement means you have to sign paperwork and receive counselling like some naughty schoolboy
I agree, but it only becomes bad, or even tragic when drivers get to the stage where they think itâs normal, canât see anything wrong with it (really canât believe they get to that stage btw ) and go along with it with great enthusiasm,.and as pointed out in the o/p become scared of the system.
If they âplay alongâ with their stupid petty games, it just makes them worse.
My lot are starting to border on it, if Iâm pulled up about something absolutely trivial I just treat it with the contempt it deserves and make some sarcastic remark clearly showing I donât take it seriously.much to the disapproval of the guy who is in charge of it all.
If he would just come at it from the direction ofâŚââLook Rob, I know this is â â â â stupid, and trivial, but you need to sign this for going one minute over your time on wtdââ but no, itâs taken soooooo serious, and it just amuses me, and I canât hide it on the occasion.
Iâve even tried ironically saying something along the lines ofâŚââOooh but Iâm really sorry, it wont happen againââ and they took me seriously ffs .
I get it we have to run to the law, but the guys who have these jobs created for them to monitor it all are mostly just trying to justify themselves, are on a power tripâŚor both.
Good luck to them btw if they can get a non job for around 40k a year, but ffs keep it real.
robroy:
Hats off to you lads who work for large well known firms where the slightest infringement means you have to sign paperwork and receive counselling like some naughty schoolboy
I agree, but it only becomes bad, or even tragic when drivers get to the stage where they think itâs normal, canât see anything wrong with it (really canât believe they get to that stage btw ) and go along with it with great enthusiasm,.and as pointed out in the o/p become scared of the system.
If they âplay alongâ with their stupid petty games, it just makes them worse.
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Well you two completely missed the point of my post which of course is no surprise whenever robroy is involved as heâs barely done reading a post before heâs triggered by a word/term and has to stop reading and say his thing no matter what the thread is about - oh drivers are crap nowadays, the job â â â â â , companies â â â â , trucks today yada yada, I hate this job, back in mah day wooo, you drivers of today donât know jack. Heâs like a less automated version of carryfast
Well at least I can sort out who has said what, and set out quotes correctly when I respond.
I think you must have missed the point, and barely read the post,.and you were triggered by a word/term, and had to say your thing no matter whatâŚyada yada.
Still stand by what I said btw. (the ACTUAL quote of mine, not your interpretation )
dozy:
Iâd sack you , does my head in , â â â â â â â day shift drivers that feel the need to get in the bunk when doing there 8/9 hr shift , grease / dirt everywhere , why donât you spend those 45 mins cleaning the tip youâve created in the previous 4 hrs rather that [zb] Up our lorries we live in all week
Just as well then that a goose has more chance of being a boss than you.
dozy:
Iâd sack you , does my head in , â â â â â â â day shift drivers that feel the need to get in the bunk when doing there 8/9 hr shift , grease / dirt everywhere , why donât you spend those 45 mins cleaning the tip youâve created in the previous 4 hrs rather that [zb] Up our lorries we live in all week
We donât do nights out, all of us 100% are day/night drivers and no one has an allocated vehicle. I take my shoes off and leave them in the drivers footwell, clean up at services and then at the yard at the end of the shift. Our bunks are actually some of the cleanest Iâve seen (and Iâve seen - not used but seen - a lot on my time with agencies) certainly about 10x cleaner than the average tramperâs bed who drives for the average transport (Iâm sorry - LOGISTICs) company. We donât get paid 9ÂŁ per hour so we actually value our job and trucks which most of them are <2 years old and our company isnât named after the boss or his dad.
Now, this is the part where Iâm supposed to throw a bunch of insults at you but since nature has already dealt you some pretty [zb] cards Iâll simply leave it at that.
You might as well be justifying what you do to a breeze block as him.
I was only 30mins late anywayâŚIâll make up for it tomorrow by employing some ⌠creative time management 
, do a printout and forget about it, nobodyâs died ffs.
âŚ, that is their problem not yours, youâve done your bit, youâve verbally explained and youâve backed that up with a printoutâŚend of, job done.
