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HGV Licence gone

Postby colket » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:38 pm

DVLA had great pleasure at telling me my class one will be revoked due to my diabetes.Just because i inject insulin once a day.SO P***ed OFF
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Postby waynedl » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:42 pm

You can understand their reasoning, but it's bloody harsh and why so many drivers keep stuff hidden from the docs - whether it be depression, diabetes (some know they've got it and know how to control it with diet and stuff, not the insulin types though) etc.
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Re: HGV Licence gone

Postby BIGRIG » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:44 pm

Bad luck mate :x Have you got anything else you can do?
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Re: HGV Licence gone

Postby colket » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:47 pm

BIGRIG wrote:Bad luck mate :x Have you got anything else you can do?

Its all i have done since i was 21 now 49.....i really dont know what to do
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Postby dukeofdirt » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:49 pm

Sorry to hear that mate.
I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure.
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Re: HGV Licence gone

Postby mosiman007 » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:52 pm

sonsorry to hear ure bad news, bout time the goverment changed the law on it, my dad has epilrpsy but can still drive its wrong.
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Postby Denis F » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:54 pm

Sorry to hear this ! There is a new eu rule that diabetes cases should be individually assessed but as usual dvla are dragging their heels and have done nothing about it yet ! It's in a sticky somewhere on here .


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Postby mark41 » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:58 pm

am sorry to hear that,they did that to my dad a few months ago,he had a triple heart bypass but has made a great recovery and is back to full health,he was even driving for a while until they decided he can no longer have his HGV licences so now all he can drive is up to 7.5t.... :cry:
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Re: HGV Licence gone

Postby Trev_H » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:01 pm

I don't understand the decisions they come to, I know a couple of drivers that inject insulin and keep their licence, others have it taken away from them, why is this?
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Postby animal » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:06 pm

Have a look at this

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Sorry to here that can understand as they did revoke my licence a few years back although I did get it back after a bit but took a while mine was something different though

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Postby Basilbrush » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:08 pm

I'm sorry to read you've lost your licence, not sure how to find it but I think there was a thread on here saying rules had been changed covering diabetic drivers. I don't know if you can do anything about their decsion on your licence but it may have some information useful for you.

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Re: HGV Licence gone

Postby colket » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:41 pm

I was ok taking 5 tablets a day to control my diabetes.....i still take them plus 1 insulin injection a day.
The tablets was not working very well But i could still drive a truck......so 1 injection blood sugars are good and i car`nt drive.....sorry but makes no sense to me...thanks for your replys
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Re: HGV Licence gone

Postby papermonkey » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:21 am

Trev_H wrote:I don't understand the decisions they come to, I know a couple of drivers that inject insulin and keep their licence, others have it taken away from them, why is this?

They've probably kept their traps shut about it, rightly or wrongly. I think what the dvla are scared of is if someone forgets their injection, or otherwise fails to take it , they'll have an attack of somekind that'll adversely affect their driving.
It's really bad luck to have your livelihood wiped away at the stroke of a pen especially now we've got the caring-sharing-Tories propped up by their Lib/Dem lackeys in the driving seat yet again. These cases must be assesed on their own individual merit. I know of a few drivers who inject insulin, and have therefore had their entitlements revoked, but because they are prompt in their testing/injecting regime, they manage to function properly, so it is therfoe unfair that they are unable to drive trucks. It's the type who is in denial that is the dangerous one, and, ultimately, the one that all the legislation is aimed at.
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Postby Trev_H » Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:51 pm

papermonkey wrote:
Trev_H wrote:I don't understand the decisions they come to, I know a couple of drivers that inject insulin and keep their licence, others have it taken away from them, why is this?

They've probably kept their traps shut about it, rightly or wrongly. I think what the dvla are scared of is if someone forgets their injection, or otherwise fails to take it , they'll have an attack of somekind that'll adversely affect their driving.
It's really bad luck to have your livelihood wiped away at the stroke of a pen especially now we've got the caring-sharing-Tories propped up by their Lib/Dem lackeys in the driving seat yet again. These cases must be assesed on their own individual merit. I know of a few drivers who inject insulin, and have therefore had their entitlements revoked, but because they are prompt in their testing/injecting regime, they manage to function properly, so it is therfoe unfair that they are unable to drive trucks. It's the type who is in denial that is the dangerous one, and, ultimately, the one that all the legislation is aimed at.

The one of them I know has definitely informed them and now has to have yearly medicals to keep his licence but hasn't had it revoked :?
Another driver was diagnosed with type 2 but needs no medication i.e. he controls it by diet, dvla asked him to send in his licence as they would need to consider whether he could keep his lgv entitlement :shock:
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Postby davidj247 » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:28 pm

A mate of mine had a heart attack 2 weeks ago and has a triple heart bypass on Monday.
He's had his licence suspended and is confident that he will be back at work in 12 weeks.
I think it is 12 weeks before you can apply to get it back and wondered if any of you know what the position is.

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Postby animal » Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:15 pm

davidj247 wrote:A mate of mine had a heart attack 2 weeks ago and has a triple heart bypass on Monday.
He's had his licence suspended and is confident that he will be back at work in 12 weeks.
I think it is 12 weeks before you can apply to get it back and wondered if any of you know what the position is.

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Think 12 week is really pushing it for his HGV tbh I know when my dad had his heart attack he couldnt drive for 12 weeks ( although he did not have the bypass ) think he will have to prove he is fit & also do the treadmill test before he get his HGV licence back

Good luck hope he recovers well

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Postby dieseldave » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:44 pm

I've moved your post here so that it will stand a better chance of receiving more replies.

It's also given me the opportunity to bump it to the top. :g:
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Postby Chewy » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:37 pm

davidj247 wrote:A mate of mine had a heart attack 2 weeks ago and has a triple heart bypass on Monday.
He's had his licence suspended and is confident that he will be back at work in 12 weeks.
I think it is 12 weeks before you can apply to get it back and wondered if any of you know what the position is.

Cheers

I had a double bypass back in August 2009 had the 12 weeks recovery in the end I was out walking every day, then the hospital wanted me to do 6 weeks cardiac rehab, then the DVLA said I had got to do a treadmill ECG test I done that in December and waited until this April for them to say I had failed and they had revoked my HGV. I have now retaken the Treadmill test and back waiting for the DVLA again.
I think it is 12 weeks before you can apply for your licence back then they will sent you for a treadmill test. And start waiting for the results to come back.
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Re: HGV Licence gone

Postby rjgent » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:14 pm

colket wrote:I was ok taking 5 tablets a day to control my diabetes.....i still take them plus 1 insulin injection a day.
The tablets was not working very well But i could still drive a truck......so 1 injection blood sugars are good and i car`nt drive.....sorry but makes no sense to me...thanks for your replys


Good morning. Please excuse a non-driver joining in - I am a GP who does some occupational health and quite a few HGV medicals. There are two exceptions for insulin treated diabetes in the "rules". One for drivers on insulin pre April 1991 (on a case by case basis), and a more recent change allowing a C1/C1E licence subject to meeting certain criteria.

Before starting insulin did you try or did anyone discuss an alternative injection called exanatide with you (or something similar)? This has not been around long but can be a useful add on when tablets do not suffice. It is not suitable for everyone but (subject to a case by case assessment by DVLA) you would generally be allowed to continue HGV driving whilst taking it. It can be particularly useful in people with diabetes who are overweight as it helps this as well, thus resulting in even better diabetic control. The only caution would be if you were on this and taking sulphonylurea drugs (for example gliclazide), when the risk of hypos is higher. However, it is not right for everyone but if it hasn't been discussed by your doctor it may be worth asking about it and flagging up the difficulties that being on insulin causes with your occupation.

There is more information and some links that may be useful on our website http://www.lf4w.co.uk/pages/driver-health/diabetes.php

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Postby dieseldave » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:39 pm

Hi Richard, Image

Just take a seat and the receptionist will call your name soon. :g:
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We're very glad to have you aboard. :D
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Re: HGV Licence gone

Postby colket » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:08 am

rjgent wrote:
colket wrote:I was ok taking 5 tablets a day to control my diabetes.....i still take them plus 1 insulin injection a day.
The tablets was not working very well But i could still drive a truck......so 1 injection blood sugars are good and i car`nt drive.....sorry but makes no sense to me...thanks for your replys


Good morning. Please excuse a non-driver joining in - I am a GP who does some occupational health and quite a few HGV medicals. There are two exceptions for insulin treated diabetes in the "rules". One for drivers on insulin pre April 1991 (on a case by case basis), and a more recent change allowing a C1/C1E licence subject to meeting certain criteria.

Before starting insulin did you try or did anyone discuss an alternative injection called exanatide with you (or something similar)? This has not been around long but can be a useful add on when tablets do not suffice. It is not suitable for everyone but (subject to a case by case assessment by DVLA) you would generally be allowed to continue HGV driving whilst taking it. It can be particularly useful in people with diabetes who are overweight as it helps this as well, thus resulting in even better diabetic control. The only caution would be if you were on this and taking sulphonylurea drugs (for example gliclazide), when the risk of hypos is higher. However, it is not right for everyone but if it hasn't been discussed by your doctor it may be worth asking about it and flagging up the difficulties that being on insulin causes with your occupation.

There is more information and some links that may be useful on our website http://www.lf4w.co.uk/pages/driver-health/diabetes.php

Good luck
Richard

Hi richard,I`m being treated by a consultant who has now put me 4 injections a day 3 of which are novorapied & 1 of lantus +3 metfromin.

i rang the dvla and told them what i was taking and i was told to stop driving trucks straight away.i`m now waiting for my licence to return with my entiltelment removed.
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Postby animal » Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:49 am

I have been advised not to drive at all at the moment
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Postby Lovlyperson » Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:09 am

Sorry to hear that.
but,by the Job Situation in our Business may you get in better Situation when you overtake another Job in Office or Warehouse
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Re: HGV Licence gone

Postby Rob Volvo 1. » Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:25 pm

Dear Colket.
I have Type 2 and have recently learnt that Type 1 diabetes Sufferers can now Drive HGV 1 if they test and record their blood readings every day to prove that they have had no "Hypo's"!
Now when they drive they also have to Monitor and Record their Blood Sugar Levels every two hours !
All this also effects me as a Type 2 because I take "Glicklacide" tablets!
I have to do exactly the same "Blood Tests" every day and every two hours whilst driving!
Needless to say I am now seriously dieting, so that when I am "stable", I can ask my doctor to prescribe a different type of drug than Glicklacide!
That will mean that I can just test my blood sugar levels just twice a day whilst driving and not every day of my life alike the Type 1 Diabetes drivers!
I am sure that Type 1 Diabetes drivers will be only to glad to undertake this "Testing" regime though so as to continue H.G.V driving!
If you check with the DVLA Medical Department I would say that they would confirm all of this!
I only learnt of this via a Google Search that brought up an article about the subject covered by a truck magazine article!!!!
Also and very importantly: I had to make sure that I told my H.G.V Medical Examination Doctor that I was doing all of the required "Blood Sugar Level Blood Tests"!
There are a few things that I will be telephoning the DVLA Medical Department about soon.
I will ask them about their views on the new types of Constant Readings/Recording Blood Monitoring devises that have been developed.
(Teresa May wears one type of them).
Will or does the DVLA recognise them as Bona Fide Blood Sugar Level Monitoring/Recording Devices so that I could wear and use one?
I do hope that I can use one because I find the Blood Testing "Lancets" a little to painful to use repeatedly!
Perhaps someone out there knows a little more about the constant Blood Sugar Levels Monitoring/Recording side of life and could "Write in" ?
Like where and how does one get them, how to use them and are they recognised by the D.V.L.A?
I do hope that this "Letter" helps you Colket and others so that you all may: "Keep on Trucking"!
If it was easy everyone would be driving H.G.V!
My best regards to all of us "Special Ones"!
Rob.
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Postby Reef » Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:04 pm

@Rob Volvo 1.

It might be worth bearing in mind that the last post in this thread was dated Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:09 am, add to that the OP Colket hasn't visited the forum since Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:13 am.
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Postby papermonkey » Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:55 am

As far as Im aware, if you can provide proof of your blood sugar readings, thereby proving your management, via insulin injections is okay, they will give you back your entitlement. But it has to be over a certain period, and has to be ongoing.
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Postby cliffpark06 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:16 pm

Just been told I’m getting my licence back,took me 8 months mind.


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Postby astrocan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:57 am

Looks to me like DMG / DVLA are still ignoring 'Driven to Despair' and PHSO are letting them.. which is even more incomprehensible.
While your'e capturing the zeigeist.
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Postby Craig0609 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:13 pm

I know its different for me but I lost mine in aug after suffering a ishemic stroke got to wait a year before taking a medical. I believe the same applies if you suffer an heart attack assuming you have told dvla.not to sure how stringent it will be can only hope I pass. I feel for those of you in a similar situation
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