ref : routier the trailor is ex thorburns and the truck belonged to terry transport my mates dads firm
ref : haulier i remember william harpers but i havent got any pics i started a topic a few weeks ago with pics of my dads wagons hoping it would pick up a few replys and pics but its been a poor show in responses from merseyside maybe the wagons never stood long enough to take pictures or maybe the camera,s kept getting pinched 
