hi idletony,thanks for reply.yes i have still got the vw lt,still up an down the country.that commer two stroke sound was unforgettable,my dad drove the six-wheeler from new,then moved on to the aec bulker then to a volvo till he retired.i think your right about viamasters fords they done very well for thenselves,they must have 60 wagons plus.what are you doing these days.regards graham