peggydeckboy:
Gentlemen this debate [as such] would read as far as my comments are concerned as if i was back then a [red, commie, socialist,]to be honest further from the truth in actual fact in 1963 i was actually in commie china ,up the yangste river their you did see what a one state commie country looked like and no way would,you ,me want to live like they did,you never fogot it.So as a driver later on i was no way WAS I a red,or agitator,or strong union man because [i knew] they ,the union reds,hot heads, had no idea what communism was really like however i belived in a way of work THAT we were all equal,come to work do your shift then either go to digs or home, start at 8am finish before 6pm DAY WORK OR NIGHTS THEY WERE THE SAME, no rush for meeting dead lines Trunking was in before all theses HUBSsame differance,it got there when you did so long as you did not take the ■■■■, loss of lorry earnings ,diesel,miles to the gallon ,nothing the way we worked equated to GREED IT WAS LIKE THE RAILWAY A WAY OF LIFE…AS THE YANKS SUPPOSEDLY SAY if it ant broke dont fixit.
If you were never within the BRS don’t knock it becuase you will never know,it was the best apprentice ship you could have…dbp
Like you I realised that Socialism was a steaming pile of manure early on.
But I also realised that workers’ solidarity isn’t the same thing as Communism.It was just there to stop employers using their workers’ wages as a race to the bottom tendering mechanism for getting work.
Also workers were just as justified in minimising their input for the maximum return as their bosses.Being employed doesn’t remove the right to ‘make a profit’.
Also if each worker does to much work that means less workers required and creates the worst of all worlds situation of an over supplied labour market putting downward pressure on wages.Which increases unemployement and lowers the tax take meaning higher taxes for those who are working.
While some of the strongest unions and highest wages were in the commy republic …of USA while Commy workers got totally shafted by their utopian regimes.
Remind us where all those highly paid western jobs went.Follow the money. 
