One for the diehard remoaners/The final word

the nodding donkey:
I too, have Dutch relations (something to do with my Dutch passport I think… :sunglasses: ). You may be surprised, that they are not eagerly awaiting the clarion call to man the barricades and exit the EU.

They are thoroughly fed up with the way the EU is run, and most Dutch would love to get back to the Gulden. But they are also pragmatic. They have a flourishing cut flower trade, and vegetables grown year round under glass. All that, relies on trade, mainly with their European neighbours. And if you think the UK has immigrant problems, think again. And as for the old "the UK is full to bursting, we’re overcrowded " try fitting 17MILLION plus people in a space slightly larger than Wales, and try to run an agricultural industry amongst it…
The difference between the Brits and the Dutch (and I dare say the French, the Belgians, the Danes and yes, even the Germans) is that the later realise the most important benefits of the EU. 70 years of peace and prosperity. And those are worth a modicum of less than ideal “central government”.

The biggest con from the British Governments of the last 40 years is perpetuating the lie that they could do nothing to stop the EU I interfering with British home matters. Nothing g is further from the truth.

As mentioned earlier, the first, and possibly last, test for Boris is the fishing rights. Having bought the votes of the Cornish and Scottish fishing g communities, with false promises of “taking back our fishing waters”, he’ll have to explain to them that their livelihoods are to be traded away to keep the banking and services industries secured in London…

You all better strap in, its going g to be a rough ride…

The biggest lie is that Federalism keeps the peace in Europe.When we’ve had two world wars started by Germanic Federalism wanting to expand its Reich/Austrian Empire across Europe.Not to mention the aggression of the Yugoslav Federation against the self determination of Slovenia and Croatia.

When what you actually mean is lets submit to the blackmail of keep the 4th Reich happy or Germany might kick off again.

As for Bojo this is the Party which took us into the EU and the Party which kept us in it from Heath to May.Yes we know that the Tory remainers will try every false flag tactic in the book to keep us tied to the EU scam, to keep the bankers happy on both sides of the Channel.Who would have thought it.