Lorry driver charged with manslaughter of 39 [Merged]

Mazzer2:

Franglais:

Mazzer2:

Franglais:
If illegal immigrants and asylum seekers are here, arent they better in known and controlled housing, than left to fend for themselves on the streets. If the Government invested in basic hostels, they wouldnt need to pay money and give profits to private hotel owners, would they? They could spread these hostels more evenly over the country, rather than concentrate them in poorer, cheaper areas, Leatherhead as well as Leeds.
Illegal immigrants qualify for no benefits. (That should be obvious: illegals don`t announce themselves to officials)
Asylum seekers are not normally allowed to seek work, but receive “asylum support”, which is less than other benefits, whilst their application is processed.
fullfact.org/immigration/pensio … -refugees/
fullfact.org/immigration/we-fac … m-seekers/

Post Brexit? Asylum seekers are covered by the Geneva Convention and the European Convention on Human Rights, which the UK is signed up to independently of EU membership, so little difference in or out.

About 10% of Syrian refugees come to Europe.
Turkey was (2016) housing 2,700,000 Syrian refugees, over 1,000,000 in Lebanon and 660,000 in Jordan. In 2015 the UK had, from all countries, 20,000 accepted for asylum.
Gives a little perspective doesn`t it?
fullfact.org/immigration/asylum … nd-europe/

Perhaps we could follow the French model and allow them to set up shanty towns in and around the capital and at all the major ports

Well that`s what I think. No need to house them in hotels, if you provide something cheap and basic. No need to have anyone needing to beg for food, living in hovels and [zb] in the streets neither.

But my point being that the rest of Europe has no better conditions for them, France’s solution seems to be lets hope they all cross channel then the problem will have gone away. As to the numbers accepted, the UK has sent more aid to the camps bordering Syria than the rest of Europe put together kind of puts a bit of perspective on it too, don’t just read the headlines look behind the figures

Mazzer2:

Franglais:

Mazzer2:

Franglais:
If illegal immigrants and asylum seekers are here, arent they better in known and controlled housing, than left to fend for themselves on the streets. If the Government invested in basic hostels, they wouldnt need to pay money and give profits to private hotel owners, would they? They could spread these hostels more evenly over the country, rather than concentrate them in poorer, cheaper areas, Leatherhead as well as Leeds.
Illegal immigrants qualify for no benefits. (That should be obvious: illegals don`t announce themselves to officials)
Asylum seekers are not normally allowed to seek work, but receive “asylum support”, which is less than other benefits, whilst their application is processed.
fullfact.org/immigration/pensio … -refugees/
fullfact.org/immigration/we-fac … m-seekers/

Post Brexit? Asylum seekers are covered by the Geneva Convention and the European Convention on Human Rights, which the UK is signed up to independently of EU membership, so little difference in or out.

About 10% of Syrian refugees come to Europe.
Turkey was (2016) housing 2,700,000 Syrian refugees, over 1,000,000 in Lebanon and 660,000 in Jordan. In 2015 the UK had, from all countries, 20,000 accepted for asylum.
Gives a little perspective doesn`t it?
fullfact.org/immigration/asylum … nd-europe/

Perhaps we could follow the French model and allow them to set up shanty towns in and around the capital and at all the major ports

Well that`s what I think. No need to house them in hotels, if you provide something cheap and basic. No need to have anyone needing to beg for food, living in hovels and [zb] in the streets neither.

But my point being that the rest of Europe has no better conditions for them, France’s solution seems to be lets hope they all cross channel then the problem will have gone away. As to the numbers accepted, the UK has sent more aid to the camps bordering Syria than the rest of Europe put together kind of puts a bit of perspective on it too, don’t just read the headlines look behind the figures

Apart from humanatarian and moral issues, money sent to Syria, is money well spent.
A pound spent there, will buy more than a pound spent here.
More accomodation there means less people desparate to leave. The worse the situation the greater the push to leave.
Before the war there, we didn’t have messed of Syrian refugees. Fewer people left when they had secure homes and food.

France had more than twice as many refugees in 2017 than the UK, and Germany took even more. The ones we see in shanty towns or around the ports, are a very small tip of the iceberg.