Leyland600:
Hi Hodge & Roy, I knew John quite well long time ago when he ran out of Carrs mill, I seem to remember that his father ran a Guy Wolf or Otter on his coal business. I haven’t seen John for years. RIP John.
Cheers Leyland 600
Hiya Gerald…I remember Edwin (John’s Dad) having a BMC Austin,.a TK and a Commer with detachable sideboards used as a flat, but maybe the GUY was before my time, I was just a kid. 
I also remember John’s brother…Peter? , working in the coal job also.
Just before I started driving 79ish, me and my mate used to meet Edwin in the Ritz caff at Silloth on a Sunday (think his daughter owned it) , where he would feed us ‘‘Trucking tales’’ of his week away in John’s VW pick up…all of them exaggerated btw , but Edwin was a canny bloke also.
I got on well with them both as a young lad.