Nice bit of info about Hodgsons of Carlisle “EC11” They were I suppose over shadowed a bit by Robsons and Watts but by what you explain they had other sources of traffic of their own. I do recall that Hodgsons ran a nightly trunk from Carlisle to Watts depot at London Colney. Hodgsons main traffic south was Albright Wilsons ( Marchon ) from Whitehaven. Watts then reloaded their trunk motor back to ■■■■■■■■■■ or ■■■■■■■ as it is now known ! Cheers Bewick.