biggriffin I went through wae a fella just like that…a really nice guy outside the cab but he told me before I started the course …“I was spending my hard earned money on him to get me through and he would get me through!!” yup a yardstick for when my hand sat on the stick or a whack on the leg is for feathering the clutch…lol the mirrors boy…ffs takes me back to 81. and a nicey nice instructor wouldny done me as I had a chip on both shoulders them days wae an attitude tae match hehe that lasted about two days after I passed and a machine operator built like a [ZB]house cured that. 