NHS, don't ever complain

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I’ve always been amazed that with all its wealth and resources America can’t/won’t look after its citizens - but then when you have Sarah Palin likening the NHS to a commie agency it’s no surprise that a certain sector of the electorate who are utterly paranoid about government interference will try to derail any kind of social endeavour.

Whilst these folk hold sway there will be thousands of people in Pats position and mass shootings.

And now they voted in Trump - let’s not get started on that utter buffoon. :open_mouth:

To be fair the US reasoning is being misrepresented as part of the Brit establishment agenda.On that note the reality is that the American way rightly understands the conflict of interest which arises when we have the government acting as a type of dodgy controlled opposition Union baron controlling the right to negotiate between employer and employee regarding the health care component of wage demands.

While we know that the government is always on the side of the employer.Which is the flaw in the NHS system and explains why the default choice for the NHS is always rationing to suit the situation in which the employer dictates that health care component of the wage to the government.With the employee nor even the employees’ union having no right to bargain in their own right directly with the employer in that regard.On that note yes it’s the worst type of collective agreement in which ironically the government actually represents the interests of the employer not the employee and people are definitely dying because of the resulting rationing which by definition that system imposes on itself.IE the NHS is there to deal with the symptoms of low wages by imposing rationing on its consumers.As opposed to allowing unions to force the situation in which incomes have to cover health care costs from cradle to grave and all dependents without any rationing of health care provision.The fact that US wage levels are being decimated by globalisation is a different issue and going for an NHS type based system ain’t going to fix that just as it doesn’t fix it here.

That’s why the US working class are happy to vote for Trump in the mistaken belief that he will fix the issue of globalisation wrecking US living standards.But in the correct belief that the NHS was flawed from its introduction and it’s far better to have the situation of strong unions in a protected economy with a private based health care system with the incomes to afford it.

How many US private insurance companies give cover for pre-existing and congenital conditions?
How much would they charge if any do offer such cover? Are all workers going to get pay to cover the possibility of such need? Will cover continue after someone becomes so ill as not to be able to work?

That’s why the mortality in US hospitals you quoted earlier is low: the gravely ill can’t afford care, so die at home.
Look at mortality rates in hospitals, but ALSO look at life expectancy and infant mortality figures.

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