Carryfast:
muckles:
Twoninety88:
but why were so many Americans against an NHS style heath service?Because they are constantly told how bad and expensive the NHS and other national healthcare systems are, although maybe they should look at how is telling them its so bad, they’d probably find it’s the politicians and others who have a vested interest in the US private healthcare system.
This isn’t to say that NHS is perfect, probably far from it and it is no doubt easy to show how bad it is at times, but for many of us, it does work when we really need it.
Oh wait.Back in the real world.
Critics claimed that Jarman, who has only just released his findings, had an agenda to denigrate the NHS, which he has refuted. He accepts that the US does badly on life expectancy but says his data only looks at hospital deaths, which account for just half of the total mortality.
“There’s no GP system in America, so life expectancy, infant mortality, is terrible in places like Harlem. But in the US you do pay twice as much for healthcare in hospitals so that might explain something.”
The work has been attacked for not being peer reviewed.
There is an additional issue that could affect the UK-US comparisons. In America people with insurance are often discharged to die at home or in a hospice as it is less expensive for the insurer. US hospital mortality data would not capture these cases.
When it comes to comparing the outcomes of the US and England, Sir Brian notes that the data doesn’t take into account the fact that in America those without hospital insurance (who tend to be poorer and are often in worse health) might avoid a hospital admission because they can’t afford the medical bills. He makes the following point:
“The US system is very different from the UK and the US spends more than twice as much per person on healthcare as the UK and still has lower life expectancy and higher infant mortality rates.”
muckles:
This isn’t to say that NHS is perfect, probably far from it and it is no doubt easy to show how bad it is at times,
however these people also went abroad looking for experimental treatments and drugs.
Carryfast:
While all eyes look to Brexit, our NHS is about to collapse | Polly Toynbee | The Guardian
The 96% plunge in EU nurses joining the UK register following the Brexit. [vote]
So are you saying Brexit was a bad thing for our NHS?
Carryfast:
Nurse are Choosing to Emigrate Rather than Work at the NHS
NHS struggles to retain trained staff after years of Conservative Government enforced pay freezes, no ■■■■ Sherlock.
Although no doubt an Internationals removal company might have an ulterior motive in making make the option of moving far more attractive?