Tommy Robinson, saint or sinner?

Juddian:
DavePenn, i get where you are coming from.
But, the time is coming when loyalists patriots nationalists, call us what you will, will have to agree to bury our differences (which are minor and hardly worth the mention anyway) because its increasingly us against the one party with two faces state, and we need to unite to make any headway because splitting our votes and allegiances between a few minority parties will ensure our eventual extinction.

What i haven’t quite worked out is why Farage was so insistent on banning ex BNP and EDL members from UKIP, making it quite plain they were unwelcome, what did the party gain from this, or is there more to Farage than many of us have realised?
Well i know some ex BNP chaps and they aint the raving violent skin head nutters that the media would have one believe, they are quite simply reliable genuine working class patriots who realised that no one spoke for them and the BNP did, at the time anyway.
And to compound this, why hasn’t Batten who is thankfully unfraid to speak his mind ie in the case of TR, made moves to allow those previously proscribed members in to UKIP, or made pacts with the alternative patriotic movements.

I think some of us can see the future for this country, and if we carry on as now it’s a bleak one for our children and their children…but not so bleak for multi millionaries like Blair (and his progeny eh) who together with his cohorts is responsible for much of what has happened both here, in europe and the middle east following his disastrous following Bush into Iraq, though i am not absolving any of those in the house of ill repute who voted for death and destruction in other countries that were sod all to do with us anyway.
Oh the irony, from war monger to peace envoy, you couldn’t have made that one up if you’d been incarcerated in a nut house :unamused:

Put it this way.What’s more likely to succeed.Telling the immigrant communities that there are going to have to be some ‘changes’ along the lines that their allegiance is to this country and its society or they can zb off.The bulldozing of Saudi funded mosques and declaring Wahabbist/Salafist Islamic practices illegal here hopefully being part of that.In addition to the fact that we can’t go on with an open door immigration policy without swamping the country and making its indigenous demographic an ethnic minority in its own country.Also thereby turning it into the type of zb hole that those immigrant communities are supposedly running from.

Or do we say something much stronger and more in the electorate’s face or even the perception of that ?.Resulting in the inevitable cries from the bleeding heart anti nation state rabble that we are all racist bigots etc etc etc etc etc with a resulting vote in,or possibly even our forced removal from,the make or break for this country future coming election.To the advantage of the same old Lab/LibDem/Con establishment bunch of crooks.While you’ve effectively said it yourself. Batten is as good as we’re going to get.While if he has to then go along with sidelining that latter agenda and let’s say over the top message,for the obvious tactical reasons explained above,then so be it.Just swallow your pride and get on board behind him.How difficult can it be.