Tommy Robinson, saint or sinner?

Winseer:
UKIP need to make more extensive use of Social Media, and resist these attempts to “Monopolize the Internet” by the mainstream.

If there is going to be any money spent - then why not spent it on social functions where one can have a decent night out among people of like mind?

…Surely a better thing to spend money on than ■■■■■■■ into a headwind - chasing votes in wards full of lefties…

UKIP’s best chance - is to go for the disillusioned Libdem Voter (Who represents “Libdem Leave Voters■■?”) and the “Regret voting Tory” voter. Most of all though - get that nearly third of people who can’t be arsed to vote off their arses - and into the polling stations - just to turf out the incument - of whatever party they happen to represent, since it is clearly 100% the case that the incumbent at this time “won’t be UKIP”.

If UKIP have come second to Labour in a seat previously, then UKIP need more voters to switch their habits in the way I’ve described above. I don’t figure there to be much chance of “Eating into the winning Labour candidate’s vote” otherwise.

In wards where UKIP came second to Conservative or even Libdem in 2015/2017 - I would recommend that Labour voters should consider switching to UKIP - just to get the Tory out, where the Labour candidate was unable to make a serious dent in the winning Tory’s poll last time. :bulb:

The PR over FptP voting system - can be made to work in UKIP’s favour IF they can “Blanket Field” their candidates, rather than concentrate on just a few “winnable” seats, which is easy for the mainstream to counter-move against. Grimsby? Thurrock? South Thanet? EASY to bat away UKIPs efforts. 500 seats at once all around the country though? - The Mainstream campaingers don’t have enough resolve of their own to stop a multi-pronged approach to taking any and all seats away from them. I would say every seat where there is a Remainer in a Brexit-voting ward - should be up for grabs for starters… 4 figure majorities some of these characters have got even now. It must be easier to take a four figure majority away from a Remainer in a Brexit seat than “concentrate all firepower on a marginal seat where UKIP were not even second last time”… Voters for the incumbent are also more likely to be complacent in wards where their elected incumbent is sitting on a “comfortable majority” as well… This is why elections are never held in August of course… :stuck_out_tongue:

I’d guess all that fits the description of ‘carefully targeted’.IE ‘careful targetting’ doesn’t necessarily mean only a ‘few’. :bulb:

As for the social functions,also being part of the essential Party fund raising machine,that’s already happening.

As for the LibDem swing vote realistically the LibDems are an example of Soviet style Federalists masquerading as ‘Democrats’ from at least the point when Jenkins made his position clear in that regard in his vehement opposition to Labour ‘Nationalists’ like Benn and Shore and especially Heffer.The simple question,as to how do they square,even Cable’s use of his London electoral mandate to call for the destruction of Surrey’s green belt,let alone support of the EU Federal government system,with a so called ideological position of ‘local democracy’,being sufficient to filter out any of the few potential LibDem swing voters from the party’s main electoral power base of closet Soviets.

On that note realistically UKIP has to take votes from both Labour and Cons and if possible a reasonable slice of the so far stay at home non vote.Unless of course the unbelievable levels of that lost turnout figure are already actually the method which the establishment uses to rig the system in large part actually being a ‘lost/destroyed’ vote to create the required result in favour of the usual establishment Lab/Con two party system every time. :bulb:

As for defeating the controlled media the best way to do that is to actually become a UKIP member.IE the establishment certainly can’t control the internal Party news with the win win that it also adds to the Party’s funds and is obviously a permanent ongoing version of the social function among people of like mind.

Which leaves the question what is Robinson waiting for in clearly endorsing and recommending UKIP membership,or at least a UKIP vote,to all his supporters/sympathisers regardless of his own personal status in that regard.Bearing in mind Alan Craig’s clearly stated support for him outside the court of appeal.