If You Could Vote Again (Brexit)

Rjan:
On another subject (or rather, back to the subject of Brexit), times are a-changin’ in the Labour party:

theguardian.com/politics/20 … -tells-mps

Norway-style option after Brexit can’t be considered, Corbyn tells MPs

Other Labour MPs also cautioned against any option which would mean retaining free movement. Sources said MPs warned colleagues that consideration of an EEA option would leave Labour vulnerable not just with leave voters, but the large percentage of remain voters who also wanted changes to free movement.

independent.co.uk/news/uk/p … 51726.html

“Lots of Labour people were getting up saying no, we’re not backtracking on the referendum. That’s not happened before at the PLP,” he [John Mann] added.

“It was quite a significant moment in my view. In a sense that strengthens Jeremy Corbyn’s hand on his current position. But it kills dead all this stuff from the House of Lords that’s additional – it’s clearly not going to have Labour’s support.”

Basically, the Blairite PLP have finally seen sense, come to heel, and are accepting a Corbyn-led Brexit.

I didn’t think there was such a think as a “Corbyn led Brexit”, despite him being this supposed Eurosceptic during the Blair era of government.
If Corbyn wants to truly bolt-on some Brexiteer credentials to get some actual support from those Brextieers that are outside of Labour like myself - then he’s going to have to come up with the PLAN that Theresa May clearly has not done. That means getting rid of his Remainer Shadow Cabinet for starters, especially “Sir” Keir Starmer, who should be booted upstairs just in time for the “Other place” to be abolished - by any 2nd referendum we might eventually get bullied into!

Let’s see if I can come up with a “Left Brexit” plan of my own:

(1) Stop paying the Brussels money, and stop paying the overseas aid budget forthwith. That’s an income of around £30bn per year, money being made available instantly, as it’s money we’re no longer paying, rather than money we have to re-coup from somewhere involving an actual money transfer from some overseas place. We’ll probably forfeit the £9bn on deposit at the ECB, and we’ll of course forfeit the £20bn-ish we’ve paid since voting Leave as well, as Possession is 9/10ths of the law, as I always remind everyone…

(2) Allocate that money to those things that would expect to be cut off by the EU via the Rebate system. Farmers, R&D, Institutions, Benefits Budget, NHS, etc. There’s no need to hurry putting back the EU subsidies into “political interference” factions in this country of course. Anyone who wants to drop out, can do so - but they at least won’t be getting any more UK money to act against the UK! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmQnEyiGdGQ Let the rather Hard-Faced, Black, Up-and-coming “Secretary” get you a drink. There are more ways than one to “Pull the rug” on those who “don’t want any part of it” though. :wink: A deal is only a good deal - if you enforce one in your own interests first, and for that you need an Iron Fist. :bulb:

(3) Trump is showing right now, that a “shoot from the hip” approach CAN and DOES work. Those objecting? - Well, no one obliged anyone to burn American flags, and become cannon fodder for trigger-happy Israeli forces - so from Trump’s point of view, he’s winning right now, as the “not wrong people” are those suffering. That’s what, in the end, we need to do in the UK with regards to the EU. Treat the EU as a poltical enemy that no longer represents it’s people, be they Remainers in Britain, or everyone on the mainland continent. Does anyone REALLY think that EU member nations will take part in any hostilities, be they economic or military - vs Great Britain, once we get a leader over here that acts more like Trump, rather than less so?
In short, once the money flow is cut off, all the EU can do is attempt to punish us by “cutting off their own noses to spite their faces”. We have not left any single market or customs union - until the EU now pulls the plug on it. The ball is very much back in the EU’s court then!

(4) The EU would offer any incoming perceived socliaist government “all the borrowing it requires” - which would be a very tempting shortcut for Corbyn indeed, especially if the banks start bullying him the moment he might win power. “We won’t co-operate, sorry there’s no money, - so you’ll have to resign Mr JC”. The ECB step in as white knights “Mr Corbyn, we’ll offer you an unlimited credit facility at the prevailing interest rate - providing you scrap Brexit on the spot!”

THIS is why we need a clear Brexit plan from Corbyn, backed up by actual promises and commitements. There’s too much wriggle-room otherwise for both shifty Labour front benchers, and the EU alike -to whip the rug out from under ALL of us, remainers included.

If we ever found ourselves back fully in the EU - the Remainer cheers will be short lived, I reckon…

Our contributions would be increased, to “pay for the costs of trying to leave”.
Our contributions would be increased, because the EU is just damned good at wasting more money on it’s Byzantine practices every year…
Our military will be roped sooner or later into a war in East Ukraine that’ll put Russia on the spot to either retalite, leading to WWIII, or let the EU steal the rest of the former Warsaw Pact nations away from it, forever. Putin can be expected to be in power these next 5 years. We cannot say the same of the weak and limp goverments that pervade around Europe in the meantime though.

If the EU decides to send troops into Iran to protect the “Nuclear Deal”, then British Soldiers face the prospect of being sued at home for Blair’s War, or getting shot at (officially this time) by Americans in the war they clearly seem to want in the region, as well.

In short, the EU will treat a UK “back in again” in a similar manner to the way ■■■■ Germany treated Occupied France during WWII.
Only this time around - we won’t have America on our sides, but both America and Russia as our enemies!

It’s all very nice for Remainers to rejoice at switching our enemies about like this, “Because we won’t fight, we’re paficifsts don’tcha know” - but that old ■■■■■■■■ doesn’t cut any ice in the wider scheme of things. We’ll be annexed, and become some superpower’s “Airstrip One” where “Resistance is Futile” forever and ever. That’s too high a price for following the wrong agenda right through the gates of hell itself over - surely?