If You Could Vote Again (Brexit)

Franglais:

Carryfast:
On that note I’d guess that the Northern Irish Remain vote is irrelevant and void being based on a misrepresentation as to what it was actually voting for.

So, do you think that a vote won because of a misrepresentation, or lie is not a valid vote?
I admire the principle, but in the real world, that means very little, sad to say. How many politicians would survive long if their votes were withdrawn when the lies and false promises were discovered?

BOTH sides mis-represented stories in the run-up to the referendum. By far the most of the “bogus” elements - came from the Remain ESTABLISHMENT however, which quite frankly - I’m amazed Leave managed to hold onto the 52% poll at against such headwinds of the Media and Government establishment pushing their brand of misleading the public over what must have sounded like “a voice crying in the wilderness” of Vote Leave’s efforts.

Whilst the Remainers like to bang on about the £350m on the side of the bus being a “lie”, we also got told that Farage’s “Breaking Point” poster was “wrong” (Was it?) and Cameron, would respect and implement what he decided… Making the actual declaration on the ballot paper itself a “lie”. He not only “didn’t do the deed” - He didn’t impress on anyone else in the conservative party to do it either! Theresa May might as well have declared “Because we lost seats in the election, we’d decided to not implement the results. Those Tories who’ve been voted out can re-take their seats in the commons, and those newbie elects that thought they would be sitting down on the green benches for the first time - can just go quietly into the night.”

The trouble with “Democracy” is that Mobile technology combined with the Internet - has given everyone a voice that can afford either or both access points to the media, aka “Social” media in particular.

We’ve all got different ways of thinking, different skill sets, differing opinions, and different beliefs - BUT we all use the same MONEY.

The Referendum result should have been about MONEY first and foremost.

By the start of business Monday 27th June, we should across that weekend - stopped the payments to Brussels, and honoured any payments owed for goods in transit, whilst at the same time expecting a reciprocal arrangement from Brussels. I.e. they stopped the rebates, and honoured payments for their goods in transit to us.

THIS would have been a smooth “Transitionary” arrangement to “keep on paying for the GOODS AND SERVICES ONLY” rather than “Paying the club membership monies” as it were.

I’m sure even the most avid gambler among you would baulk at the chance to “Pay £10 to enter Ladbrokes, and claim your free £5 bet at the counter. Wow Wee!”
If we cannot enter Ladbrokes for Free - we don’t want your stinking £5 ■■■■■■■■■ bet - thanks very much!
(For those that don’t gamble, any “Free Bet” usually has to be bet on something that you either won’t likely win on, like “The winner of the Grand National” OR the “free bet” is taken off the winning return - thus if you bet on a long-odds-on favourite, you might get to collect a few pence from the cashier - as your total return on that free bet.

It ain’t worth it even as a “Freestyle” bet of course. Paying £10 for a £5 voucher■■?

That’s what paying money to Brussels to be the member of a trading club that we actually lose money on already - does for the UK.

If these payments were halted, then the trade would have continued on autopilot in reality, because Remainers wouldn’t want to stop their access, whilst even the most ■■■■■■■■ Brexiteers - wouldn’t object to “full access continuing” - providing the UK ceases paying for it via the Brussels contributions any more!

This notion that “We must pay, and continue to pay” is the sort of deal we would have expected from Hitler, had he successfully invaded in 1940.
The Jews might like to dress up the ■■■■ Menace as being all about them, but in actual fact they lost 6m to the Slav (read: Eastern European) losses being around 10 times that number.
Hitler, more than anything else - wanted to get rid of those who blocked him politically. If the same thing were to happen in this country as in Germany, then the modern equivalent today would be Asian business leaders, shopkeepers, and local pillars of the community taking the modern place of the 1940’s Jews, and “Resisting Taxpayers” taking the place of the Slavs from 1940. This notion that Hitler was “Right” rather than “Hard Left” has been pushed way into the background, as is the simple fact that the Jews were NOT the ■■■■’s “Main Victims”.
If we don’t learn from the history - we will be repeating it in this country, but with Right Wingers being the Victims trying to resist the encroachment of “Robber Baron” Liberal Socialism, which is nothing like Proper socialism, in that those running the show - are not being taxed to death by their own warped system!

What do Right Wingers want? - Value for the money they spend, mostly via taxes.
What do Left Wingers want? - TO destroy the Right, and everything they stand for.

Which one is Hitler most like?

There’s no “Right Wing Hostility” in "Not wanting to pay higher taxes so Joe Lazy Barsteward can get more benefits/faster track access to NHS treatment/free prescriptions/free council tax/free accommodation, and even the ability to go on holiday at the drop of a hat, because one doesn’t have to worry about being told “No” when you submit a holiday form.

What was the main think “Remainers” got out of their side of the argument?

“System working well. I’m alright jack, and I don’t care that 52% of people who vote don’t care for what I think rocks, because their pain is my joy.”

Any “Hostility” is entirely from the Left To the Right, using the traitor center as a lightening rod. :angry:

Proper “Conservatism” has almost become an underground movement these days.
The “Conservative Party” have shyed away from National issues, shyed away from Financial Prudence, Shyed away from Taxpayer Concerns, and even shyed away from aiming at a more equal society. (Positive Discriminiation - merely puts the boot on the other foot.)

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Proper “Conservative” Law and Order would chuck you in jail for commiting a crime be it White on Black, Black on Asian, Asian on Hispanic, or Hispanic on White. You don’t get thrown into jail faster because you’re white, or totally ignored in your crime because you’re not… But that’s exactly what we’ve now become. “Chip-On Shoulder” Ethnics always demanding their pound of flesh out of us whities. It’s like treading on eggshells for us white workers these days! You can get fired for saying something politically incorrect to even others of your own rank in the workplace!

We Rights need to stop letting the centerists set us up against the Lefts of course.

If you combined “Race” issues with “Idealogy” - you end up with this absurd scenario…

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“I am Black - on the Right side.”