ytrehodluap:
It does seem odd that the 2nd driver would need to have ADR if by the time it’s his (or her) time to drive there would not be any dangerous goods on board. I thought a class 2 driver would be able to double man with a class 1 driver, class 1 drives waggon and drag Heathrow to Scunthorpe (say) class 2 drives waggon (only) to Hull, Scarborough, York and Leeds then back to pick up trailer when other driver takes over for the journey back. Is there any reason that can’t be done? I understand if the only driver with ADR where to be incapacitated then the other driver may not be able to deal with a spillage for instance but surely this would be the case if it were single manned?
Hi,
There’s nothing odd about it at all mate.
If a load is fully subject to ADR, the driver must hold a certificate.
In the part I’ve made blue, you’re possibly confusing the rules about supervising a learner driver, or what a leaner driver can/can’t drive and thinking that the same principle applies in ADR. This is NOT true when it comes to ADR.
Here is chapter and verse…
ADR 2017 8.2.1.1
Drivers of vehicles carrying dangerous goods shall hold a certificate issued by the competent authority stating that they have participated in a training course and passed an examination on the particular requirements that have to be met during carriage of dangerous goods.
This is legalese for the DRIVER of a vehicle that’s carrying a fully regulated load must have an ADR card.
Another part of ADR (1.1.3.6) says that the above doesn’t apply when carrying up to ■■ litres/Kgs of certain kinds of dangerous goods in packages. (No such exemption for a tanker or tank-container carrying dangerous goods though.)
Another part of ADR (3.4) says that the above also doesn’t apply when the dangerous goods being carried are packaged as Limited Quantities (LQs) and comply with the rules on LQs. (Stuff that is sold in retail shops.)
There are plenty of other examples of exemptions in ADR, but it’s quite possible that you could carry a full load of dangerous goods and not need an ADR Card. However, you WOULD need some form of ‘documented’ ADR awareness training as in my answer to Franglais above.
Sorry mate, but the rest of what you were saying about “incapacitated” etc simply isn’t covered in ADR.
The part that I made blue is OK if we were discussing driving licences though. 