Salisbury alleged Russian connection [Merged]

Rjan:

Carryfast:
While what Putin actually did,in issuing two more clear belligerent ‘warnings’ of WMD attack on us,says it all.Just as anyone responding to a Police caution with zb you they’ll blow up the police station and kill everyone in it and the bleedin town that it’s located in and who ever it is who is accusing them,will definitely harm their defence even if they really think that they’ve been,or even have been,nicked by bent coppers trying to fit them up. :bulb:

The difference is that the Tories are not the international police force. They are not even bent coppers. They are no coppers at all. They are simply bent.

They are the raving lunatic in the community who have made some provocative accusation without a shred of evidence, and having done so the Russian has stepped out his front door, shook his fist, and warned them “come closer and make these accusations without any evidence, without a single witness, and I’ll knock you for six”.

The fact is, our interests as a nation of people are not remotely threatened. Let us take the case at its highest, and suppose both that Russia poisoned Skripal, and that we have more double agents willing to disclose that Putin was responsible.

Well, since no physical evidence exists, the British government have disclosed that such agents must exist. And the Russians have been shown to be bunglers when it comes to assassinations - the resources of an ex-superpower cannot even buy a single decent assassin.

So it has shown that the British are waging a war of infiltration against the Russians - a criminal and treasonous act against the Russian state - and it has been shown that the Russians can’t even poison someone properly in retaliation. Where is the national threat here? Are you ready to put a rifle in your son’s hand over the issue? This is the case at its very highest against the Russians.

At it’s lowest, it’s just pure Tory lies for electoral advantage. There are a smorgasbord of parties who potentially have the motive and means for an attack like this - particularly a bungled attack, in which the only fatalities have been the Skripal family cat, which starved to death in the hands of the British security services.

Exiled Russian billionaires who have pumped dirty money into the Tory party, are a prime example of those who potentially have the animosity toward Putin, and the means and the money to pull off a bungled attack like this. The money to make or buy such a poison, and the inexperience to make a hash of using it.

But we simply don’t know who did it. And whoever it was, they are not a threat to the British way of life.

Nobody, it seems, has even died from the attack - an attack on an ex-spy who was not even in hiding, but was living and socialising openly on British streets under his own name - let alone is it something to launch nuclear war over.

Wake up to how you’re being manipulated.

Like Jinping you’re avin a larf.

It’s obvious that ‘if’ Putin did it then it was meant as a warning shot for the consumption of MI5 and the government not an attempt to wipe out Wiltshire or even necessarily to take out Skripal.

While we haven’t threatened anyone with any WMD attack.The fact remains that Russia stands accused of involvement in such a threat not us and unarguably then answered that accusation with more threats of WMD attack.Not exactly the actions of an innocent party.

While yes we know that NATO has for some reason been winding up the Russians after Russia’s definite act of good faith in vacating its old seized buffer states.Which is where much of the issues originate.Also obviously both sides maintaining an ongoing cold war type espionage regime against each other for some reason after the so called ‘end’ of the cold war.We’ve also got the EU and NATO acting like muppets regarding the sensitive powder keg of Ukraine by not making a clear statement that the EU and NATO has no designs or interest in Ukraine nor in allowing Ukraine to be an EU or NATO member state.Which is more or less the position of Farage as opposed to the EU and NATO.

Remind us where you stand on the issue of the EU’s foreign policy regarding the militarisation of the Russian buffer states and its intentions regarding Ukraine ?.Are you now saying that Farage was right and the EU is wrong ?.While it seems strange why you want to shift all the blame for that onto May when she is just doing as expected in acting like the puppet of the EU that she’s always been and that you’ve said that you support.

While as I said all bets are off in that regard now that Russia has gone full ■■■■■■ in which it’s just a case of those who are prepared to face and return that threat in kind v cowards who haven’t got the bottle and who therefore put us all at risk of what seems like a machiavellian type plan by Russia and China to create a pre text for them and their stinking Korean,Iranian and Korean allies to kick off WW3 against the west and in which Farage’s and Trump’s previous pro Russian anti EU/NATO stance throws a spanner in.On that note it’s you who needs to wake up.Although it’s my bet that you’re just a typical deluded Socialist on the side of China not the West for ideological reasons bearing in mind that it’s Jinping who’s obviously pulling Putin’s strings and who is orchestrating the whole cluster zb for his own ends.