M1 minibus crash, first day in court

Captain Caveman 76:

Rick W:
for the preceeding 15 mins everyone else drove round him apart from the indian who obviously wasnt hardly paying anymore attention than the fedex as he was stopped behind him.
if he was paying attention then he would have driven round him like everyone else.

You were not there so you are only surmising the situation like many others were doing immediately after the accident on this forum.
Not really wise as you could certainly be very wrong and could easily offend if certain people read your views.

Given that there was a lorry in lane one for around ten minutes and no one else had struck them, I think it’s fair to say that everyone else went round the obstruction.

I also think that the only difference between the minibus driver and the Fed ex driver is that the bus driver stopped. Given the position of the bus when it was struck, that can’t be in doubt either.

In ANY incident, there is a chain of events that lead up to it. Break that chain at any point, and the incident doesn’t happen. Now I’m not defending either lorry driver here, but the bus driver made a mistake and found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time, and that contributed to the collision.

Cavey , you make a very good point there. Take out the middle man ie the mini bus driver, I have to ask did he actually contribute to the accident? IMHO no, I think as you say wrong place wrong time. The Polish driver was stopped in L1 , the FedEx driver, if as said, he wasn’t concentrating, he would have still run up the back of the other wagon, but sadly there was another vehicle in his path. And maybe that may have saved his own life, but he will surely have that thought on his mind for the rest of his life :cry: :cry: