Rjan:
Carryfast:
As for what I advocate that would obviously be along the lines of Switzerland in terms of our government not a bunch of alien oriental retards.So tell us when exactly did Switzerland attempt to subjugate and invade anyone and how is the Swiss system of government in any way shape or form compatible with the EU Federal government system.As opposed to Socialism and Federalism in whatever form in everything from the Soviet Union to the Yugoslav Federation.With Empire building obviously fitting the definition of Federalism not Nationalism as part of that.But Switzerland is not a self-contained country. It’s economic interest has always been in cross-border activity. If it vetoed anything the countries around it didn’t like, they’d just embargo the place.
As for the birth and in fact most of the life of our mining industry we obviously weren’t and didn’t need to be a part of the EU to create that.While remind us what happened to it after 1973.While it’s so much better for us to be dependent on foreign energy supplies and suppliers adding to an unsustainable trade deficit and ripping off UK customers to subsidise the energy costs of European consumers.
I’m not making a point about the EU with mining. I’m making a point about the absurdity of the local vetoes which you have supported. I’m not trying to make out that I’m in favour of mines shutting - I’m simply saying that localism is no answer to centralised Toryism which has widespread democratic support.
The fact remains that Switzerland hasn’t ever compromised its system of national government and sovereignty by joining the EU.While the jury is still very much out there among its people,regarding the argument as to whether they should compromise at all regarding the acceptance of ‘any’ EU ruling based on the blackmail of trade.Which is why they also ditched their EEA membership.Which means that EU rulings regarding free movement for example are still subject to Swiss referendum vote.
rt.com/news/416134-swiss-eu-free-movement/
Assuming the SVP hopefully wins the vote and the Swiss government then refuses to toe the line with the EU in that regard are you saying that it’s right for the EU to then impose trade sanctions on the Swiss on the basis that EU law must trump Swiss law and isn’t that just typical Federalist aggression in trying to impose the EU’s will on a sovereign country ?.Again that makes the EU the expansionist aggressor in that case not Switzerland.Let alone the EU refusing to recognise Swiss and UK passports as part of that which would effectively be an even more aggressive act of war.
As for that blackmail and aggression applied to ( what should be ) a Swiss and UK/English alliance in the form of EFTA bring it on bearing in mind that the EU sells a lot more to us than we sell to it.While if the EU really wants to ramp that up to effectively putting Switzerland under siege and refusing to recognise the rights of Swiss and UK passports then that is effectively an act of war and all bets should be off at that point.Again obviously the result of Stalinist/Napoleonic/■■■■ style Federalist aggression not Nationalist.
On that note why do you view the idea of Nationalism and National sovereignty as being mutually exclusive with also being left wing in view point.IE you don’t have to be a Socialist to support the working class struggle.While in fact actually seeing the idea of National sovereignty and democracy as an asset in that regard against the forces of the globalist elites.With free movement just effectively being a form of people trafficking based on similar economics as slavery.While the Socialists obviously see the effective dissolution of National borders as a way to move in a foreign demographic which they perceive as being advantageous to their centralised Soviet style anti nation state ideology.In which its obviously you who’s allied with centralised Conservative Unionism not Nationalists like me.All based on a typical aggressive Soviet/Federalist MO of do as we tell you to do or we’ll attack you in whatever form we choose and then you’ve got the nerve to blame the resulting fight on Nationalists standing up for their rights to self determination.Also no surprise that you’d deliberately confuse what I said in the form of ‘local democracy’ trumping National parliamentary government in the case of ‘local decision’ making.With the idea of closing down our mining industry in favour of us being a net importer of energy instead definitely being a local decision for MP’s in mining areas and preferably their constituents in the form of local referendum,not bleedin Thatcher. 