PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION

by **robthedog** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:40 am

DEANB wrote:
pv83 wrote:Nice one Dean! Older cranes tend to be overlooked on most forums, although they did had quite an important task

Now, I might be wrong, as usual, but I reckon it's yankee made...Link-Belt comes to mind...

Sounds like you got the American bit right Patrick !

oiltreader wrote:Hi Dean, it is a Lorain founded Iowa 1894.
Oily

Thanks alot "oiltreader" ,i must admit i have never heard of them. An unusual and rare truck to be in the UK.

The 6th picture down of the foden looks like third avenue millbrook rd Southampton .

ramone wrote:Keep `em coming Dean , some great stuff here

kingswinford kit wrote:
ramone wrote:Keep `em coming Dean , some great stuff here

Yes indeed ,great stuff ,love the(WG) Davies Crusaders ,look forward to more S Wales pics ,thanks ,regards Keith .

Glad you are enjoying them "ramone" and Keith. There are alot more from S Wales,you will be pleased to
hear.

Nice tidy Atkinson with the same company name,how unusual.

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Loads of trucks used to have a michelin man back then,dont see them today !

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Is that a datsun behind ??

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by **ramone** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:37 pm

DEANB wrote:
pv83 wrote:Nice one Dean! Older cranes tend to be overlooked on most forums, although they did had quite an important task

Now, I might be wrong, as usual, but I reckon it's yankee made...Link-Belt comes to mind...

Sounds like you got the American bit right Patrick !

oiltreader wrote:Hi Dean, it is a Lorain founded Iowa 1894.
Oily

Thanks alot "oiltreader" ,i must admit i have never heard of them. An unusual and rare truck to be in the UK.

ramone wrote:Keep `em coming Dean , some great stuff here

kingswinford kit wrote:
ramone wrote:Keep `em coming Dean , some great stuff here

Yes indeed ,great stuff ,love the(WG) Davies Crusaders ,look forward to more S Wales pics ,thanks ,regards Keith .

Glad you are enjoying them "ramone" and Keith. There are alot more from S Wales,you will be pleased to
hear.

Nice tidy Atkinson with the same company name,how unusual.

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Loads of trucks used to have a michelin man back then,dont see them today !

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Is that a datsun behind ??

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Is it a Datsun Blubird ???? and is it me or does the Merc cab look odd? :shock:

by **DEANB** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:26 pm

Buzzer wrote:Is that a Yardley of Leeds, had Foden's , looks like tomatoes on the pallet to me but may be wrong. By the way DEANB where did Paul Gee hale from as there are quite a few pictures that look like they were taken in and around Southampton, cheers Buzzer.

Hello Buzzer, Paul has contacted me and confirmed that the company was Yardley from Leeds.

by **DEANB** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:33 pm

Ramone, yes i think it was a datsun. The merc cab looks ok to me ?

Nice old Fiat.

by **BonkeyDollocks** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:40 pm

Fantastic pics with the promise of some ARC wagons too? I await with bated breath! :-)

by **Bewick** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:40 pm

Would all Horace Kendricks Foden tippers have been single drive ? that one in Paul Gees shot certainly looks like a single drive ! Cheers Bewick.

by **DEANB** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:44 pm

BonkeyDollocks wrote:Fantastic pics with the promise of some ARC wagons too? I await with bated breath!

Here you go chap.

by **Lawrence Dunbar** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:45 pm

Bewick wrote:Would all Horace Kendricks Foden tippers have been single drive ? that one in Paul Gees shot certainly looks like a single drive ! Cheers Bewick.

I think you are right in saying this Dennis Their S 80s drive axle was the hub reduction type, They did have oil seal problems IIRC, Regards Larry.

by **windrush** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:48 pm

Bewick wrote:Would all Horace Kendricks Foden tippers have been single drive ? that one in Paul Gees shot certainly looks like a single drive ! Cheers Bewick.

Most seem to have been Dennis, with high ratio diff and hub reduction on the drive axle like the tractor units. British Salt used a similar set up, I guess they did little off road work?

Pete.

by **Bewick** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:50 pm

Lawrence Dunbar wrote:
Bewick wrote:Would all Horace Kendricks Foden tippers have been single drive ? that one in Paul Gees shot certainly looks like a single drive ! Cheers Bewick.

I think you are right in saying this Dennis Their S 80s drive axle was the hub reduction type, They did have oil seal problems IIRC, Regards Larry.

They probably had no need for DD Larry as they only must have run on "hard" surfaces on their job. They used to get up to Millom Iron Works as I recall in the 50's/60's but they wouldn't need DD even though it was a bad road. Cheers Dennis.

by **DEANB** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:51 pm

Saviem.

Spanish dodge.

Tidy f86

by **Bewick** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:52 pm

windrush wrote:
Bewick wrote:Would all Horace Kendricks Foden tippers have been single drive ? that one in Paul Gees shot certainly looks like a single drive ! Cheers Bewick.

Most seem to have been Dennis, with high ratio diff and hub reduction on the drive axle like the tractor units. British Salt used a similar set up, I guess they did little off road work?

Pete.

And there would be a payload advantage also as every cwt counted I should think ! Cheers Dennis.

by **DEANB** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:56 pm

Dennis, windrush and Lawrence, heres another one of Kendricks !

by **Paul John** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:34 pm

The blue and white Daf with the single axle trailer is out of Caerphilly/Bedwas. DU-MAC. That's going back a few years!

Paul

by **DEANB** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:11 am

Paul John wrote:The blue and white Daf with the single axle trailer is out of Caerphilly/Bedwas. DU-MAC. That's going back a few years!

Paul

Well spotted Paul,there are alot from Wales on here.

Today we have, ERF,Atkinson,Mercedes,Guy,Seddon Atkinson,Volvo,Leyland and MAN.

by **pete smith** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:47 am

Bewick wrote:
windrush wrote:
Bewick wrote:Would all Horace Kendricks Foden tippers have been single drive ? that one in Paul Gees shot certainly looks like a single drive ! Cheers Bewick.

Most seem to have been Dennis, with high ratio diff and hub reduction on the drive axle like the tractor units. British Salt used a similar set up, I guess they did little off road work?

Pete.

And there would be a payload advantage also as every cwt counted I should think ! Cheers Dennis.

Hi Dennis,
All Kendricks 8 leggers had single drive and as I believe what my late Uncle told me them Fodens was not loaded till the body was full :wink:

by **pete smith** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:52 am

DEANB wrote:Saviem.

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The 6 wheel F86 belonged to Heads Transport from Willenhall, Dean thanks again for posting the photo's, it's nice to see the motor's as well as the how road used to be at Ross on Wye before the island was put in and, I think I'm correct in saying, the services both sides of the road before the Ross Spur island, Cheer's Pete, ps. pass on my thanks to Paul for lending you the pic's.

by **windrush** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:46 am

Bewick wrote:
windrush wrote:
Bewick wrote:Would all Horace Kendricks Foden tippers have been single drive ? that one in Paul Gees shot certainly looks like a single drive ! Cheers Bewick.

Most seem to have been Dennis, with high ratio diff and hub reduction on the drive axle like the tractor units. British Salt used a similar set up, I guess they did little off road work?

Pete.

And there would be a payload advantage also as every cwt counted I should think ! Cheers Dennis.

Yes Dennis, those worm and wheel diffs did weigh heavy. Those reduction hubs were not light though, but still less than another drive axle.

Pete.

by **Bewick** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:39 pm

pete smith wrote:
Bewick wrote:
windrush wrote:
Bewick wrote:Would all Horace Kendricks Foden tippers have been single drive ? that one in Paul Gees shot certainly looks like a single drive ! Cheers Bewick.

Most seem to have been Dennis, with high ratio diff and hub reduction on the drive axle like the tractor units. British Salt used a similar set up, I guess they did little off road work?

Pete.

And there would be a payload advantage also as every cwt counted I should think ! Cheers Dennis.

Hi Dennis,
All Kendricks 8 leggers had single drive and as I believe what my late Uncle told me them Fodens was not loaded till the body was full

Thanks for the info Pete, I wonder what happened to Kendricks, mebe they were taken over ? Cheers Dennis.

by **windrush** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:08 pm

I seem to think that they (Kendricks) were a victim of the miners strike Dennis and were blacklisted? One of our West Midlands reporters will know for sure! :lol:

Pete.

by **Retired Old Fart** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:12 pm

pete smith wrote:
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The 6 wheel F86 belonged to Heads Transport from Willenhall, Dean thanks again for posting the photo's, it's nice to see the motor's as well as the how road used to be at Ross on Wye before the island was put in and, I think I'm correct in saying, the services both sides of the road before the Ross Spur island, Cheer's Pete, ps. pass on my thanks to Paul for lending you the pic's.[/quote]

The two fuel stations at Ross were run by the Kenning Group, who also ran the two at Strensham at the time. I spent a few months running the ones at Ross in my mis-spent youth until I got pi**ed off with working weekends with no extra pay!

by **5thwheel** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:26 pm

Viewing these marvellous photo's from Paul Gee's collection,I wonder if he took a picture,side on as requested by YKW,of a 240 Percy powered Big J?.......what a coup that would be!!!!

David

by **DEANB** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:08 pm

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The 6 wheel F86 belonged to Heads Transport from Willenhall, Dean thanks again for posting the photo's, it's nice to see the motor's as well as the how road used to be at Ross on Wye before the island was put in and, I think I'm correct in saying, the services both sides of the road before the Ross Spur island, Cheer's Pete, ps. pass on my thanks to Paul for lending you the pic's.[/quote]

Thanks Pete ,Those little F86's were really reliable and quick motors in their day ! Paul will be reading
posts so will see your comments,and that is why he has let me put the photos on as he knows we all like
to look at the old motors and comment.

5thwheel wrote:Viewing these marvellous photo's from Paul Gee's collection,I wonder if he took a picture,side on as requested by YKW,of a 240 Percy powered Big J?.......what a coup that would be!!!!

David

David, Sorry i must have missed something what company are you talking about re the Guy big J ????

Retired Old Fart wrote:
pete smith wrote:

The 6 wheel F86 belonged to Heads Transport from Willenhall, Dean thanks again for posting the photo's, it's nice to see the motor's as well as the how road used to be at Ross on Wye before the island was put in and, I think I'm correct in saying, the services both sides of the road before the Ross Spur island, Cheer's Pete, ps. pass on my thanks to Paul for lending you the pic's.

The two fuel stations at Ross were run by the Kenning Group, who also ran the two at Strensham at the time. I spent a few months running the ones at Ross in my mis-spent youth until I got pi**ed off with working weekends with no extra pay![/quote]

Thanks Retired old fart, glad they are bringing back some memories.

by **5thwheel** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:20 pm

DEANB wrote:

The 6 wheel F86 belonged to Heads Transport from Willenhall, Dean thanks again for posting the photo's, it's nice to see the motor's as well as the how road used to be at Ross on Wye before the island was put in and, I think I'm correct in saying, the services both sides of the road before the Ross Spur island, Cheer's Pete, ps. pass on my thanks to Paul for lending you the pic's.[/quote]

Thanks Pete ,Those little F86's were really reliable and quick motors in their day ! Paul will be reading
posts so will see your comments,and that is why he has let me put the photos on as he knows we all like
to look at the old motors and comment.

5thwheel wrote:Viewing these marvellous photo's from Paul Gee's collection,I wonder if he took a picture,side on as requested by YKW,of a 240 Percy powered Big J?.......what a coup that would be!!!!

David

David, Sorry i must have missed something what company are you talking about re the Guy big J ????

Retired Old Fart wrote:
pete smith wrote:

The 6 wheel F86 belonged to Heads Transport from Willenhall, Dean thanks again for posting the photo's, it's nice to see the motor's as well as the how road used to be at Ross on Wye before the island was put in and, I think I'm correct in saying, the services both sides of the road before the Ross Spur island, Cheer's Pete, ps. pass on my thanks to Paul for lending you the pic's.

The two fuel stations at Ross were run by the Kenning Group, who also ran the two at Strensham at the time. I spent a few months running the ones at Ross in my mis-spent youth until I got pi**ed off with working weekends with no extra pay![/quote]

Thanks Retired old fart, glad they are bringing back some memories.

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Dean,

ANY photo of a 240 Percy powered Big J will do,however a Smith of Maddiston,of which I drove for,would be capital!!!......as you must be aware,Dennis Smith,aka Bewick,and it must be said others,doubt the voracity of drivers and mechanics that worked on the illusive motor,so a picture would be conclusive!

David

by **DEANB** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:50 pm

The first 7 photos are of trucks leaving Poole docks,and on the left was Corralls who were coal merchants.
That road looks completely differnt these days,and Corralls are long gone. The whole road pretty much is
now Sunseeker the luxury boat builer.

The Volvo has got flags in the windscreen,which was common in trucks back in the 70s.

by **DEANB** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:39 am

5thwheel wrote:Viewing these marvellous photo's from Paul Gee's collection,I wonder if he took a picture,side on as requested by YKW,of a 240 Percy powered Big J?.......what a coup that would be!!!!

David

David, There will definately be photos of Big J's but i doubt if there are any with a rear / side view of the
engine. However if i see one i will pop it on,trust me its not that easy,too many photos.

by **jshepguis** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:28 pm

Thanks Deanb for going to trouble of posting these Paul Gee photos they are amazing shots of what lorries do day in and day out, and certainly for me capture a time that i grew up in. Remember the Abbey Hill group transporters, bright yellow vehicles as they had a few that ran out of Teesport when the Datsuns used to come in to the country.

by **Bewick** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:23 pm

DEANB wrote:
5thwheel wrote:Viewing these marvellous photo's from Paul Gee's collection,I wonder if he took a picture,side on as requested by YKW,of a 240 Percy powered Big J?.......what a coup that would be!!!!

David

David, There will definately be photos of Big J's but i doubt if there are any with a rear / side view of the
engine. However if i see one i will pop it on,trust me its not that easy,too many photos.

Hiya Deano, now notwithstanding what a great site this is turning into you shouldn't get swept along on this evangelical crusade to produce a side on shot of an 8LXB engine Big J :wink:

However if Paul has managed this "mission impossible" feat he will go down in the annals of TNUK as "The Greatest" and the dimished numbers of "Believers" will without doubt revere his name for all time ! Now if the shot also were to show that the said Big J was being driven by Elvis that would defo be the shot of the century :shock:

Congratulations on what is a fine site all the same and keep'em coming Great ! Cheers Bewick.

by **Retired Old Fart** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:55 pm

jshepguis wrote:Thanks Deanb for going to trouble of posting these Paul Gee photos they are amazing shots of what lorries do day in and day out, and certainly for me capture a time that i grew up in. Remember the Abbey Hill group transporters, bright yellow vehicles as they had a few that ran out of Teesport when the Datsuns used to come in to the country.

Abbey Hill Group was owned by Roger Bastable who also had a rock band in which he played drums. He was doing well until some whizz kid decided to carry cars on three decks ( and cut the rates in the process!). I believe Roger sold out to one of the big companies of that era but what's left of the memory cell refuses to drag up more details. :roll:

by **Bewick** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:57 pm

Retired Old Fart wrote:
pete smith wrote:
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The 6 wheel F86 belonged to Heads Transport from Willenhall, Dean thanks again for posting the photo's, it's nice to see the motor's as well as the how road used to be at Ross on Wye before the island was put in and, I think I'm correct in saying, the services both sides of the road before the Ross Spur island, Cheer's Pete, ps. pass on my thanks to Paul for lending you the pic's.

The two fuel stations at Ross were run by the Kenning Group, who also ran the two at Strensham at the time. I spent a few months running the ones at Ross in my mis-spent youth until I got pi**ed off with working weekends with no extra pay![/quote]
So how much a gallon did you give for the "fiddle" ROF ? :lol: