Francis was actually down john penn street off Lewisham road and behind Blackheath road, its a housing estate now mushroomman, yes that yard was certainly tight, if I was not running the trailers to Enfield I had to tip them on local deliveries mainly around surrey docks , steel 45 gallon drums 3 high all hand ball great fun , so was Alan Gilzeans sense of humour “are you tipped laddie” yes Alan “aye get yourself back to francis they` ave another two loads for you” . If you are an old blue dart driver, remember John West the irish weight lifting champion his still driving in his 70s now still going to the gym keeping fit an doing a bit for Ocado. regards, catalanboy.