These puppies are 12โs run about 15 when we were on tippers. Canโt rely fault them had no major probs the 8 wheelers were good for the job especially the 12โs with the engine brake in all a good servant in my opinion. The white one I drove for someone on muck away for 10 yrs and it never missed a beat, and Iโve had it buried down to the handle on the arse board never even had a clutch in only thing that failed and it was a fault apparently was the release bearing. Then when he sold it I bought it, itโs there just had a new tin light weight body fitted at Trent industries at kingswinsford, cost me 4,900 quid plus me old body