rate chopping is as old as transport , always some daft sod who thinks it will work for them alone .ici rates were brilliant , they payed dedicated rates to regular hauliers to ensure that they always had transport on tap . one job was lime to s. wales @ 13 quid per ton and cement clinker back for 10 , lo and behold they were swamped with offers to do the round trip for 13 quid . ici refused on the grounds that they didn’t allow subbing of their work . when ici sold out the quarry division the rates collapsed within a few months and never recovered . cheers , dave