never did me but did spend 10 years on international but thats not the point can anyone tell me when now i live and work as a driver in france driving a nice comfortable cf daf 410 with heaters annd air conditioning air sprung seat and a radio you can hear above the engine WHY do i keep thinking of the A series erf 180 gardener engined artic i started my driving career in no sleeper across the bonnet job no heaters only in summer did they seem to work and a seat blocked with a pallet block so i could see over the steering wheel wich wasnt power assisted av i got the start of alziemers or is it the rose tinted illness seting in what was i talking about got to go docters comming with my deisel injection