Past Present and in Between in Pictures

[oiltreader]

Cracking postings there, with a neatly sheeted/roped Dunbar load.
AECs, assorted coming up, I may have posted some of them elsewhere, what the hell, they're going on here as well.
oily

[oiltreader]

Chassis transporters.
oily

[oiltreader]

Geodis Calberson, Geodis a French firm, bought out one or two uk firms, one that comes to mind was Carpet Express.
oily

[oiltreader]

To wind up today, a Cabover and some.
oily

[coca cola kid]

To wind up today, a Cabover and some.
oily

This is only the yard shunter, lets see the rest of the fleet Oily

[harry]

To wind up today, a Cabover and some.
oily

This is only the yard shunter, lets see the rest of the fleet Oily

" Gime forty acres & I'll turn this rig around."

[Dieseldogsix]

This is begging for a caption, so come on have a go.
oily

So that's the new Leyland Steer.

[Dieseldogsix]

I came across a thumbnail of these today and have blown them up a bit, there was no info with the pic, but the front bumper jogs my memory. I can't remember if they were Anderson's. or McKelvies, they ran steel from Ravenscraig to places like Sheffield and Brum, they were petrol Macks and boy did they power along, nothing else could live with them, the time would have been late 50s early 60s, personally I have had one come past me and the sound from the stack gave you that kinda "boy I would like a go in one of them" feeling.
This from a fading memory and I will stand corrected by anyone with more detailed knowledge of them.
oily

There you go Oily, it's been restored

[Lawrence Dunbar]

These Rio Speed Wagons Belonged to my great Uncle Isaac Smiles, with the courtesy of his Grandaughter Diane Smiles.

[Lawrence Dunbar]

These twin steer ERFs, 1938, Had walking floors, But were taken off Smiles for the war effort, One of his sons drove one of them in France. Courtesy Of Diane Smiles.

[jasper59]

heres a few for u old timers

[Spardo]

I came across a thumbnail of these today and have blown them up a bit, there was no info with the pic, but the front bumper jogs my memory. I can't remember if they were Anderson's. or McKelvies, they ran steel from Ravenscraig to places like Sheffield and Brum, they were petrol Macks and boy did they power along, nothing else could live with them, the time would have been late 50s early 60s, personally I have had one come past me and the sound from the stack gave you that kinda "boy I would like a go in one of them" feeling.
This from a fading memory and I will stand corrected by anyone with more detailed knowledge of them.
oily

There you go Oily, it's been restored

Do you know if that is the original colour in that restauration, still doesn't look right from my memory but I'm certainly not going to argue with anyone on the basis of that.

Another thing is that, again my memory, I think that is unusual in being a 3 axle unit. Most of them were 2 axles, as were most of the B61s in Oz at that time. This one I believe is a left hooker but difficult to see from the picture. Another unusual feature although I do remember reading that at least one was US rather than Oz spec.

The colour is still bugging me though, has anyone got genuine colour pics from the time to settle my head?

One thing I would add to my previous post on these beasts. When I said they would steam past me on the A74 I should say that I was in a Scammell Highwayman with a max speed of 38 mph, apart from Stainmore to Greta Bridge in angel gear of course.

[vwvanman0]

the p and s mack is a replica,not one of the originals,it was imported and restored in p and s colours,it was in one of the mags a while back.

[LB76]

A couple of the originals went to OZ after being run again by H.G.Brown & Son of Leighton Buzzard

[harry]

A couple of the originals went to OZ after being run again by H.G.Brown & Son of Leighton Buzzard

I remember first seeing a couple of P+S Double/Drive Macks down in Port Talbot Steel works when I first started with BRS & my motor was a clapped out Leyland Comet with a single axle trailer. They were yellow as far as I can remember. Those things shifted!

[Glenn R]

I found these old Hull street scenes recently, enjoy..

[oiltreader]

I came across a thumbnail of these today and have blown them up a bit, there was no info with the pic, but the front bumper jogs my memory. I can't remember if they were Anderson's. or McKelvies, they ran steel from Ravenscraig to places like Sheffield and Brum, they were petrol Macks and boy did they power along, nothing else could live with them, the time would have been late 50s early 60s, personally I have had one come past me and the sound from the stack gave you that kinda "boy I would like a go in one of them" feeling.
This from a fading memory and I will stand corrected by anyone with more detailed knowledge of them.
oily

There you go Oily, it's been restored

Nice one thanks.
oily

[oiltreader]

I came across a thumbnail of these today and have blown them up a bit, there was no info with the pic, but the front bumper jogs my memory. I can't remember if they were Anderson's. or McKelvies, they ran steel from Ravenscraig to places like Sheffield and Brum, they were petrol Macks and boy did they power along, nothing else could live with them, the time would have been late 50s early 60s, personally I have had one come past me and the sound from the stack gave you that kinda "boy I would like a go in one of them" feeling.
This from a fading memory and I will stand corrected by anyone with more detailed knowledge of them.
oily

There you go Oily, it's been restored

Do you know if that is the original colour in that restauration, still doesn't look right from my memory but I'm certainly not going to argue with anyone on the basis of that.

Another thing is that, again my memory, I think that is unusual in being a 3 axle unit. Most of them were 2 axles, as were most of the B61s in Oz at that time. This one I believe is a left hooker but difficult to see from the picture. Another unusual feature although I do remember reading that at least one was US rather than Oz spec.

The colour is still bugging me though, has anyone got genuine colour pics from the time to settle my head?

One thing I would add to my previous post on these beasts. When I said they would steam past me on the A74 I should say that I was in a Scammell Highwayman with a max speed of 38 mph, apart from Stainmore to Greta Bridge in angel gear of course.

The only red part in my memory was the front bumper, the cab yellow, mind you any time I saw them they had a good coating of road muck.
oily

[Spardo]

A couple of the originals went to OZ after being run again by H.G.Brown & Son of Leighton Buzzard

That's interesting, I wonder if mine was one of those.

Unlikely though, I'm pretty sure my boss, Noel Buntine, only bought new.

I usually drove an artic with another 2 trailers tacked on behind but this rigid, top right, was mine for one trip with 3 trailers.
I had for company the usual driver, George, who was spaced out on pills and rum most of the time.
I insisted on doing all the driving.


A pretty good down under melange for the rest of them too. How many can you name?

[harry]

Western Star
Foden
Mack
Commer
Foden
Scammel
Kenworth
Dodge
Bedford.

[Lawrence Dunbar]

P & S Contracts, George Patterson & Son. They were yellow, they did run some Blue 8 Wheelers Fodens. The Macks were running above the legal length at first. Regards Larry.

[ben walker]

This Picture was put on English Macks site by Pete 359 i think he might have some more of original P&S.

As far as i know they were all 6 Wheel Units,RHD and Diesel, most of there work was out of Parkhead Forge, when they finished up some Units went to Pentus Brown and the rest went to Austrailia,George Paterson went to Canada,this Picture has been taken in there Yard in Baillieston Glasgow in the 60s.

Ben.

[oiltreader]

This Picture was put on English Macks site by Pete 359 i think.

As far as i know they were all 6 Wheel Units,RHD and Diesel, most of there work was out of Parkhead Forge, when they finished up some Units went to Pentus Brown and the rest went to Austrailia,George Paterson went to Canada,this Picture has been taken in there Yard in Baillieston Glasgow in the 60s.

Ben.

Thats an original and what we have been looking for, good on ya.
oily

[oiltreader]

The main theme being MACK, and the fact Spardo mentioned Oz here's some more and they're all australian.
oily

[Spardo]

Western Star
Foden
Mack
Commer
Foden
Scammel
Kenworth
Dodge
Bedford.

I wonder if the first one isn't a Leyland?

And you chickened out on the Government Road Train Harry. At the other end somewhere there'll be an AEC.

As far as the P&S Macks go, no wonder I thought they were orange - that one looks orange to me, ish.

[Spardo]

The B-Quadruple road train of Shell's is a stylish looking beast. In 1988 their triple bottom braking systems were modified in house to stop a 50 metre, 115 tonnes, 62 wheel train in its own length without skid or axle hop at 70 km/hr. Pretty impressive.

I wonder if 4 trailers are still to the same standard.

[oiltreader]

This ex military MAN has an air cooled 320hp turbo diesel Deutz power unit.
oily

[Lawrence Dunbar]

Earley 30s, 14 of Smiles for Miles Ford Sussex tippers at Newburn brickyard, Courtesy of Diane Smiles, Regards Larry.

[oiltreader]

Some more Macks, top two in Australia.
oily

[oiltreader]

Newburn Brickyard 1930's.jpg

Earley 30s, 14 of Smiles for Miles Ford Sussex tippers at Newburn brickyard, Courtesy of Diane Smiles, Regards Larry.

Looks a fair tonnage for what would have been under the bonnet, nice pic anyway.
oily