Driver CPC

1… A lot of work has gone into this site as I can see. However the format IS pants.
It has taken me several attempts to find how to ask this question. (I know this isnt the place to write this, I’m just venting.)

2… The question.
What are the rules regarding someone who has a CPC National & International regarding the ‘Drivers CPC’?

Thank you V-much.

if you want to drive for a living then you have to do the driver cpc, your nationalor international cpc dosent count in anyway shape or form as the drivers cpc but am sure my comrade rog will be able to point you in the right direction for all the relavant information

. Welcome M4RKii .

M4RKii:
2… The question.
What are the rules regarding someone who has a CPC National & International regarding the ‘Drivers CPC’?
Thank you V-much.

THE PERIODIC (ongoing) DRIVER CPC has nothing to do with the OPERATOR (National or International) cpc
Neither counts towards the other

Forum with some useful stuff and Forum for questions on drivers hours

it’s a forum, just put it somewhere if it needs to be moved somewhere else let those upstairs deal with it.

Driver cpc has no link to operator cpc nat or inter, they are two completely separate things with the same initials, who the ■■■■ thought that one up

garnerlives:
they are two completely separate things with the same initials, who the [zb] thought that one up

The EU cos they are ‘clever’ !!

garnerlives:
it’s a forum, just put it somewhere if it needs to be moved somewhere else let those upstairs deal with it.

Driver cpc has no link to operator cpc nat or inter, they are two completely separate things with the same initials, who the [zb] thought that one up

Spose CPC is a daft acronym, but so is licence. My HGV licence doesn’t allow me to watch TV or use Microsoft Windows an RAC competition licence allows you to drive but not necessarily on the roads.

Wheel Nut:
My HGV licence doesn’t allow me to watch TV …

But your digi card can get you Box Office Movies on Sky.

Coffeeholic:

Wheel Nut:
My HGV licence doesn’t allow me to watch TV …

But your digi card can get you Box Office Movies on Sky.

Yeah, and free phone top ups

Welcome to TrucknetUk M4RKii

I’m still trying to figure out how simply attending a course can be an indication of professional competence

tachograph:
I’m still trying to figure out how simply attending a course can be an indication of professional competence

cos your going to be trained by someone that more professional then you coffee is thing of it so you mite like to ask how he teach it

delboytwo:

tachograph:
I’m still trying to figure out how simply attending a course can be an indication of professional competence

cos your going to be trained by someone that more professional then you

I had my first 7 hour session on Wednesday and from "someone more professional than me " I learned that:

EU Regulations.

• Driving Time = Time spent at the wheel for purpose of controlling motion of vehicle.

• Rest = Uninterrupted period of rest of at least 1 hour.

WTD.

• Immediately after working six hours you should have a 30 minute break. (Not too unexpected that one )

Digital Tachographs.

• The Driver card “Stores average of 28 days of activity data”.

I kind of stopped disagreeing and just let him get on with it after a while

On the plus side the coffee was free

And I had to smile when a bloke who reckons that training is a waste of time said that for a split break you should have 30 minutes break then 15 minutes break

Still the day was different and it made a change to talk to a real pro

tachograph:

delboytwo:

tachograph:
I’m still trying to figure out how simply attending a course can be an indication of professional competence

cos your going to be trained by someone that more professional then you

I had my first 7 hour session on Wednesday and from "someone more professional than me " I learned that:

EU Regulations.

• Driving Time = Time spent at the wheel for purpose of controlling motion of vehicle.

• Rest = Uninterrupted period of rest of at least 1 hour.

WTD.

• Immediately after working six hours you should have a 30 minute break. (Not too unexpected that one )

Digital Tachographs.

• The Driver card “Stores average of 28 days of activity data”.

I kind of stopped disagreeing and just let him get on with it after a while

On the plus side the coffee was free

And I had to smile when a bloke who reckons that training is a waste of time said that for a split break you should have 30 minutes break then 15 minutes break

Still the day was different and it made a change to talk to a real pro

it sounds like a good trainer he must be reading the regs backwards

delboytwo:

tachograph:
~snip~

it sounds like a good trainer he must be reading the regs backwards

I think he passed the National/International CPC many years ago and apart from a cursory glance probably hasn’t read the regulations since.

To make things even worse this guy runs a driver agency as well as being the CPC holder for another company so it would be reasonable to expect him to know the regulations even if he wasn’t an instructor

tachograph:
I had my first 7 hour session on Wednesday and from "someone more professional than me " I learned that:

EU Regulations.

• Driving Time = Time spent at the wheel for purpose of controlling motion of vehicle.

• Rest = Uninterrupted period of rest of at least 1 hour.

WTD.

• Immediately after working six hours you should have a 30 minute break. (Not too unexpected that one )

Digital Tachographs.

• The Driver card “Stores average of 28 days of activity data”.

I wish there was an effective system for checking out these so called trainers.

This is just not fair to those who are paying to get this information

ROG:

tachograph:
I had my first 7 hour session on Wednesday and from "someone more professional than me " I learned that:

EU Regulations.

• Driving Time = Time spent at the wheel for purpose of controlling motion of vehicle.

• Rest = Uninterrupted period of rest of at least 1 hour.

WTD.

• Immediately after working six hours you should have a 30 minute break. (Not too unexpected that one )

Digital Tachographs.

• The Driver card “Stores average of 28 days of activity data”.

I wish there was an effective system for checking out these so called trainers.

This is just not fair to those who are paying to get this information

I agree ROG but I thought these courses were supposed to be approved by JAUPT, so why don’t they check the content of courses before giving approval.

I accept that it may not be so easy to check the content of some courses but surely when it comes to something like the drivers regulations it can’t be that hard to check, I mean they only have to have someone learn the regs so they can check them against the course before giving approval.

tachograph:
I thought these courses were supposed to be approved by JAUPT, so why don’t they check the content of courses before giving approval.

As far as I know, JAUPT just approve a course if it looks ok - they do not check the validity of the content - anyway, JAUPT have a staff of about 6 or something silly like that

The only way that they will know if a course is no good is if someone contacts them…

There does not seem to be any controls over anything - bit like the RT(WTD)R

tachograph:
I had my first 7 hour session on Wednesday and from "someone more professional than me " I learned that:

EU Regulations.

• Driving Time = Time spent at the wheel for purpose of controlling motion of vehicle.

• Rest = Uninterrupted period of rest of at least 1 hour.

WTD.

• Immediately after working six hours you should have a 30 minute break. (Not too unexpected that one )

Digital Tachographs.

• The Driver card “Stores average of 28 days of activity data”.

On the plus side the coffee was free

I can’t wait, looks like it might be in for a very good day based on that. Four arguments and free coffee, what’s not to like?

Coffeeholic:

tachograph:
I had my first 7 hour session on Wednesday and from "someone more professional than me " I learned that:

EU Regulations.

• Driving Time = Time spent at the wheel for purpose of controlling motion of vehicle.

• Rest = Uninterrupted period of rest of at least 1 hour.

WTD.

• Immediately after working six hours you should have a 30 minute break. (Not too unexpected that one )

Digital Tachographs.

• The Driver card “Stores average of 28 days of activity data”.

On the plus side the coffee was free

I can’t wait, looks like it might be in for a very good day based on that. Four arguments and free coffee, what’s not to like?

If you get an instructor like the one I had you’re in for a field day

tachograph:

Coffeeholic:
I can’t wait, looks like it might be in for a very good day based on that. Four arguments and free coffee, what’s not to like?

If you get an instructor like the one I had you’re in for a field day

I’ve already been told some of the little gems the guy who is doing our courses has come out with. I’ll probably end up being thrown out or walking out before the end of the day, there is no way I am going to sit quietly and let him get away with teaching ■■■■■■■■.

Thanx for the responses.
And as they went on they proved a point. We’re all going to be grandmothers with a mouth full of eggs.
Our place has just gone through a NVQ2 training stage and that was a nightmare. After 30yrs of having my Class 1, I would never of thought of checking my load was secure before setting off. Or doing a first works. (Those kind of eggs.)

But ta any ways.