electronic logs

[The Kraut]

Obviously when I wanted to use an 8 hour sleeper break yesterday it didn't work well for me, I had used too many hours before going into sleeper mode, after 8 hours I checked and I only gained 1 hour and 45 minutes, not worth it so I stayed for the full 10.

The 8 hr break only extends your 14, if you have used 9:15 driving time you will only have left 1:45 after the break. Same with total hours, if you used 13 you will only have left 1 hour on duty time. If you can fit in a 2 hr break first, your new starting point for the new 14 would be at the end of your 2 hr break after you take the 8 hr.
I always try to get a 2 hr at a shipper or receiver (if it takes a bit longer) so I can use the 8 hr break if it's necessary. The 2 hr break must not be on sleeper, it can also be off duty, but the 8 hr break must be logged as sleeper.
Sometimes it helps to be at a customer on time, with a 10 I would be late. Used the split sleeper berth provision now several times and I love it with the e-log

[Pat Hasler]

Another advantage with elogs is crossing the border. As some of the comments here are from Canadian residents and the hours of service in the frozen north, I love the way it automatically changes from US to Can rules, that extra 2 hours driving just appears and on return even if I have used the full 14 hours of US time, when it changes back to US rules it still allows me the extra time, I have no idea why ?

[The Kraut]

Another advantage with elogs is crossing the border. As some of the comments here are from Canadian residents and the hours of service in the frozen north, I love the way it automatically changes from US to Can rules, that extra 2 hours driving just appears and on return even if I have used the full 14 hours of US time, when it changes back to US rules it still allows me the extra time, I have no idea why ?

I've crossed the border to Canada only one time after driving here in the States. Took a 34 hr reset in Canada and when I crossed the border to the States I got my full 70 hrs minus the hrs I drove that day (34 vs. 36 hrs rule).
Never been back in Canada since 2013 and have no intention to go there anymore...
Don't know why you have more than the 14 available when you cross back to the States

[Pat Hasler]

The first time I crossed in a situation where I knew I had used all but 10 minutes of Canadian HOS I got to the border and logged off duty before it changed just to stop me going into an infringement situation, it was less than half a mile to the nasty truck stop at Champlain NY, I had no idea about the extra time being allowed until a later trip.

[robinhood_1984]

it was less than half a mile to the nasty truck stop at Champlain NY, I had no idea about the extra time being allowed until a later trip.

Which one? I stopped for diesel and a shower at the Irving truckstop in Champlain about two weeks ago and it wasn't that bad. I saw there was a Mobil truck stop on the other side of the 87 opposite the McDonald's which also has truck parking.

[Pat Hasler]

I like that Irving stop, They have amazing Pizza, I have spent several nights there, I am talking about the other pile of crap at the very last exit LOL.
The other Mobil stop you mentioned cook fresh breakfasts etc but they hand them to you on paper plates with plastic forks and if you ask for a knife they just stare at you with a lost expression, I tried it once and all she said was "Where are you from ?"
"Civilisation, it's down the highway about 100 miles" I said

[Pat Hasler]

Did two 8's in a row again this week. On Tuesday morning running up 91 just north of New Haven CT and the red check engine light came on, I stopped and saw it had lost coolant to bellow the sensor, I found a leak from the radiator, I called dispatch and the kid said "I'll call a tow truck"
"Noooo, I am about half a mile from exit 9, there's a little fuel stop there, I will top off now and get there and buy some more"
I drove to the stop, bought two extra cans and headed on my way to B&J in Waterbury VT, it lost about half a gallon. Next day the truck was booked into Albany for a PM anyway. Wednesday morning they got a new radiator, I went on a 8 hour sleeper break while the fitted it and ran down to NYC to originally take another 2 hours, I arrived at out NYC yard at 7.00pm, if I took 2 hours I thought it would give me more than the time I needed to get to Bethlehem PA for the 7.00am appointment, it didn't, it only gave me to 5.00 am so I decided to take a full 10 hours but after I had slept and woke at 3.00 am I just checked and found I had been given 10.5 hours so off I set, stopped for fuel and a shower at the pilot on exit 7 of 78, arrived in Bethlehem at 5.30, backed into the spot and hit the off duty spot again for 2 hours, that gave me until 5.00pm, I ran to Fairless Hills PA , hooked to a loaded tank for B& J again and got to Milford CT for the night.
So two 8 hour sleeper breaks in a row is fully legal, elog said so.

[russjp]

I'm liking mine the more I use it, I find I can max my hours out every day, plan my day ahead and it keeps me legal too. I wouldn't want to go back on paper logs now if I'm honest.


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[neilg14]

Having never used or even seen an electronic log, do they record your speed ?
I've got a mate at H&R that was one of 5 that originally tested the electronic log for them and his was on the qualcom, are they all on qualcom or are there stand alone electronic log machines as well ?
What happens when you get to a scale and they call you inside and want to see it ?

[russjp]

Having never used or even seen an electronic log, do they record your speed ?
I've got a mate at H&R that was one of 5 that originally tested the electronic log for them and his was on the qualcom, are they all on qualcom or are there stand alone electronic log machines as well ?
What happens when you get to a scale and they call you inside and want to see it ?

We have Shaw in our trucks so I'm guessing there's a few different systems available. The units are wired into the truck main ecu allowing it to monitor speeds, engine running time etc and I'm guessing ours have some type of shock sensor too as if you have to brake sharply or if you strike an animal etc you can send a five minute report back to wherever your data is stored in case it's needed for legal/insurance purposes. If we get stopped at a scale all we need is an email address from the DOT guys and we can send them our last 14 days of logs

[Pat Hasler]

Having never used or even seen an electronic log, do they record your speed ?
I've got a mate at H&R that was one of 5 that originally tested the electronic log for them and his was on the qualcom, are they all on qualcom or are there stand alone electronic log machines as well ?
What happens when you get to a scale and they call you inside and want to see it ?

From what I have seen they don't record the speed, when mine has been checked by DOT I have often gone down hills at well over the limits and as the cop has scrolled and gone through the logs nothing is shown. However ! ... The qualcom or peoplenet system providing the logs and messages does record speed, even if you don't have elogs, I know that because before we had elogs I got several calls about my speed LOL.

[neilg14]

Thanks Russ & Pat.