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Tachograph disc

Postby ian24661 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:59 pm

When you insert an anologue tachograph disc in to a tachograph how do you know which way round to insert it so your driving is recorded on the correct side or do they only fit in one way
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby Wheel Nut » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:15 pm

It is possible to insert cards the wrong way up, in general the wax on the card should face up as you look at it from the drivers seat.

A hinged analogue will fold open and the rear of the chart sits on the chart table, you can then see the stylus or stylii.

On an analogue cassette it still goes wax face up for driver 1 and beneath the separator plate for driver 2

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I think there used to be some stipulation that you or the ministry were able to open the head without removing the card to view the trace. Long gone also.
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby ROG » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:27 pm

Wheel Nut wrote:It is possible to insert cards the wrong way up,

If inserted upside down then it fits but will not do a trace - of course I have NEVER done that :oops: :oops: :oops:

If you can see the 'recording/trace pins' then the shiney side faces them.
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby Paul@PSTT » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:41 pm

What a pity that such elimentary information wasn't passed on during training :lol: :lol:
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby alamcculloch » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:42 pm

On older motors where the tacho head is behind the steering wheel the white side faces the road when the thing is closed. Those new ones with a drawer the white faces the sky.
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby ROG » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:46 pm

alamcculloch wrote:On older motors where the tacho head is behind the steering wheel the white side faces the road when the thing is closed. Those new ones with a drawer the white faces the sky.

That's why I said what I did in my last post - the bit about the recording needles :wink:
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby ROG » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:47 pm

Peter Smythe wrote:What a pity that such elimentary information wasn't passed on during training :lol: :lol:

could have been trained in a truck with a digi and only had the analogue explained which could easily be forgotten :idea: :?:
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby Wheel Nut » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:54 pm

alamcculloch wrote:On older motors where the tacho head is behind the steering wheel the white side faces the road when the thing is closed. Those new ones with a drawer the white faces the sky.


Which white side? :lol:
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby alamcculloch » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:02 pm

The cards that I am issued with are a buff colour on the non trace side.
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby Paul@PSTT » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:03 pm

could have been trained in a truck with a digi and only had the analogue explained which could easily be forgotten


That's called grasping at straws! What's wrong with demonstrating with an old tacho head? Or showing the trainee in a suitably equipped vehicle if one is available.

Hard fact is that the majority of trainers just overlook this minor detail! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby EBGBz » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:12 pm

It is a shame that with both styles of tacho still being in equal existence (before analogue is completely lost) that training schools are only able to offer training on one type of tacho (to pass the test, should the tacho show me/tell me question arise). Alternatively, there are agencies around that will provide additional training to get you up to speed with what the logistics world is working with. I think I'm fortunate enough to have only had to use one type of tacho (found in volvos approx 10 years old), so I'm sorted for the time being and I can learn about digital tachos at a later date from drivers in the newer vehicles at work
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby alamcculloch » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:15 pm

When I was training the tacho was mentioned but not really part of the course,mind you this was pre theory and hazard perception tests.I suppose its changed days now.
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby Wheel Nut » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:19 pm

Peter Smythe wrote:
could have been trained in a truck with a digi and only had the analogue explained which could easily be forgotten


That's called grasping at straws! What's wrong with demonstrating with an old tacho head? Or showing the trainee in a suitably equipped vehicle if one is available.

Hard fact is that the majority of trainers just overlook this minor detail! :lol: :lol:


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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby topmixer11 » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:38 pm

REMEMBER check the disc codes against the tacho codes in vehicle must match or will not record correctly ,saying that most are now universal but get em from a boot sale :lol: you could get caught out
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby Data Academy » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:17 pm

Peter Smythe wrote:What a pity that such elimentary information wasn't passed on during training :lol: :lol:


Couldn't agree more.......we start to train this in the theory and have a tacho head in the classroom.

ROG wrote:could have been trained in a truck with a digi and only had the analogue explained which could easily be forgotten :idea: :?:


So....no excuse 25 quid buys an analogue one from the breakers.......sorted
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby DAF95XF » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:29 pm

alamcculloch wrote:The cards that I am issued with are a buff colour on the non trace side.


I keep getting issued with tachos, but the trouble is the chances of me driving the 2 trucks fitted with them are slim as I wouldnt get everything on and if I did I'd be weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell over weight....... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby garnerlives » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:55 am

DAF95XF wrote:
alamcculloch wrote:The cards that I am issued with are a buff colour on the non trace side.


I keep getting issued with tachos, but the trouble is the chances of me driving the 2 trucks fitted with them are slim as I wouldnt get everything on and if I did I'd be weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell over weight....... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby DAF95XF » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:08 pm

garnerlives wrote:
DAF95XF wrote:
alamcculloch wrote:The cards that I am issued with are a buff colour on the non trace side.


I keep getting issued with tachos, but the trouble is the chances of me driving the 2 trucks fitted with them are slim as I wouldnt get everything on and if I did I'd be weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell over weight....... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


7.5 tonners?? :lol:


They've been upgraded to 12.5 tonners, but yeah thats what they are.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby theseatonslicer » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:22 am

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s218 ... acho04.jpg

Writing goes face up so when you close the tacho it makes contact with the scribes.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s218 ... etacho.jpg

On the cassette tacho, make sure you get the chart underthe 2 teeth at the top or it will chew the tacho to pieces! I know this through experience!
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby Wheel Nut » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:52 am

theseatonslicer wrote:
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Writing goes face up so when you close the tacho it makes contact with the scribes.

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On the cassette tacho, make sure you get the chart underthe 2 teeth at the top or it will chew the tacho to pieces! I know this through experience!


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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby Coffeeholic » Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:09 pm

theseatonslicer wrote:On the cassette tacho, make sure you get the chart underthe 2 teeth at the top or it will chew the tacho to pieces! I know this through experience!

Experience or inexperience? :wink: :P :P
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby theseatonslicer » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:35 pm

Inex at the time!! LOL Never repeated since!
I,ve got a pic of the Volvo tacho (pop up) at work, i,ll post it on monday, took me 5 minutes to find the damn thing! I was cursing and panicking!!
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby EBGBz » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:35 pm

Don't have a photo of the volvo pop up, but the disc goes in trace side facing you, and operation is really simple, just twist the knobs on the dash by the key to the appropriate setting and job's a good 'un. My current volvo doesn't have one of these, but one of the cassette type mounted above your head with buttons rather than knobs.
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby theseatonslicer » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:42 pm

Wheel nut, how do you post pics like that? I,m a bit simples like!
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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby ROG » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:45 pm

theseatonslicer wrote:Wheel nut, how do you post pics like that? I,m a bit simples like!

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Re: Tachograph disc

Postby theseatonslicer » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:51 pm

Ta, i've just bin applying a link. Der!!
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