Thank you all very much all bases covered ,as for the bunching up of text without spaces you are correct it does put you of a little however i now know what to do ,well will try, the other reason is the ENGLISH GRAMMAR IS MY GRAMMAR ,not your oxford .that is why i will not go down the book route i have edited it and tried to smarten it up my self so please just read it as if i am in the pub talking to you or waiting for a ferry in Brindisi.thank you .dbp