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UK to Morocco

Postby treadmill » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:50 pm

Looking at contract from UK to Morocco and being new to international work looking for some help. Have applied to change op licence to international. TM has international cert.. What documentation would I need to allow transport both for goods and vehicle including tolls etc. Journey would be via France, Spain into Gibraltar. Thanks in advance any help would be appreciated
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Grumpy_old_trucker » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:17 pm

Algeciras ferry, ferry from Gib goes once a week and as far as I know it doesn’t take accompanied freight.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Gidders » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:34 pm

I believe there are quite a lot of ferries from southern Spain( Almeria,Motril,Malaga,Algeciras) to Tangier or a couple of ports in northern Morocco.Never been to Morocco myself.I do recall a friend from 35 to 40 years ago (lived near Sleaford? but forgotten his name)who used to do Morocco a lot.If I remember correctly he used to take bits of ladies undergarments down there where they would be made into complete garments for return.He could have been winding me up though.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Mazzer2 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:18 pm

I would look at using the direct ferries to Spain, Poole/Portsmouth to Santander using them means you have still got 6 days to work with when you get to Spain, it used to be about 100 euro cheaper to go through France not sure if that is still the case. For tolls get an AS 24 box as this will cover both France and Spain, get a couple of fuel cards Repsol is probably the most common fuel station in Spain and does fuel cards.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Franglais » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:26 pm

New to International work and looking at Morocco for a first contract?
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Be careful....
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Some people jump in and swim.
Some jump in and drown.
Those poor drowned persons make no posts.
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Morocco is deep water.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Suedehead » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:13 pm

Wind up
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby treadmill » Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:58 am

Thanks for all the replies. Its not a wind up, just an opportunity has come up and we will risk one truck on one run initially. If it doesn't work out we can take the hit and if it does it could be quite lucrative
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Franglais » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:12 am

Mazzer2 wrote:I would look at using the direct ferries to Spain, Poole/Portsmouth to Santander using them means you have still got 6 days to work with when you get to Spain, it used to be about 100 euro cheaper to go through France not sure if that is still the case. For tolls get an AS 24 box as this will cover both France and Spain, get a couple of fuel cards Repsol is probably the most common fuel station in Spain and does fuel cards.
I dunno how quick Morocco customs are today, but getting a 48hr break when taking a load in wasn't a problem a few years ago.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Simon » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:41 pm

Gidders wrote:I believe there are quite a lot of ferries from southern Spain( Almeria,Motril,Malaga,Algeciras) to Tangier or a couple of ports in northern Morocco.Never been to Morocco myself.I do recall a friend from 35 to 40 years ago (lived near Sleaford? but forgotten his name)who used to do Morocco a lot.If I remember correctly he used to take bits of ladies undergarments down there where they would be made into complete garments for return.He could have been winding me up though.


There used to be two big companies who did well out of a similar job, Maas and John Mann. The job was, rolls of denim from the UK to Poland, unload, wait for the denim to be cut, reload. Poland to Morocco, unload, wait for the cut denim to be sewn into jeans, reload. Morocco to Falkirk to unload, reload with rolls of denim, do it all again.
(It might have been Morocco to cut, Poland to sew, it was 20+ years ago and I didn't do it)
Mass is now Centrex and John Mann retired very comfortably thank you.
So taking ladies undergarments to Morocco to be sewn together is nothing at all unusual or surprising.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Suedehead » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:05 am

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Its a shame that this legend is not around any more. He had certainly been there and had the T shirt.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Wheel Nut » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:48 am

Suedehead wrote:
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Its a shame that this legend is not around any more. He had certainly been there and had the T shirt.


But Will is still around
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Gidders » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:52 pm

Simon wrote:
Gidders wrote:I believe there are quite a lot of ferries from southern Spain( Almeria,Motril,Malaga,Algeciras) to Tangier or a couple of ports in northern Morocco.Never been to Morocco myself.I do recall a friend from 35 to 40 years ago (lived near Sleaford? but forgotten his name)who used to do Morocco a lot.If I remember correctly he used to take bits of ladies undergarments down there where they would be made into complete garments for return.He could have been winding me up though.


There used to be two big companies who did well out of a similar job, Maas and John Mann. The job was, rolls of denim from the UK to Poland, unload, wait for the denim to be cut, reload. Poland to Morocco, unload, wait for the cut denim to be sewn into jeans, reload. Morocco to Falkirk to unload, reload with rolls of denim, do it all again.
(It might have been Morocco to cut, Poland to sew, it was 20+ years ago and I didn't do it)
Mass is now Centrex and John Mann retired very comfortably thank you.
So taking ladies undergarments to Morocco to be sewn together is nothing at all unusual or surprising.



John Mann.That's the man.I remember him from years ago.Thanks,Simon.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Big Ben » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:53 am

treadmill wrote:Looking at contract from UK to Morocco and being new to international work looking for some help. Have applied to change op licence to international. TM has international cert.. What documentation would I need to allow transport both for goods and vehicle including tolls etc. Journey would be via France, Spain into Gibraltar. Thanks in advance any help would be appreciated

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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Simon » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:57 pm

[quote="Gidders"John Mann.That's the man.I remember him from years ago.Thanks,Simon.[/quote]

No problem mate.
I was wracking my brain trying to remember his name, to no avail.
I had to leave that almost written post, go away and do something else before it popped up in my head :roll: :lol:
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Gidders » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:37 pm

Simon wrote:[quote="Gidders"John Mann.That's the man.I remember him from years ago.Thanks,Simon.


No problem mate.
I was wracking my brain trying to remember his name, to no avail.
I had to leave that almost written post, go away and do something else before it popped up in my head :roll: :lol:[/quote]


By coincidence,there's a picture of John Mann's truck in another thread. "North Africa?"
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Grumpy_old_trucker » Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:19 pm

Many years running with John Mann’s drivers when I worked for G&S international, Saturday night on the Pride of Bilbao out of Portsmouth, usually quite a few of their lads on it and ran down through Spain with them.
There was some great characters on that firm, never did North Africa myself but used to see them down at Algeciras, we loaded a lot round that area as we had a yard at Chipiona just south of Seville.
Thought that the Morocco work had dried up but I hear that one or two guys are still running down there from the UK.

Is there any money in it nowadays? Very much doubt it.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby the maoster » Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:38 pm

Living where I do there are still a few of the old Mann boys around propping up the bars. Some proper stories out of them guys
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Wheel Nut » Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:45 pm

They have been shipping a lot of trailers unaccompanied in recent years. There is a bit of a drug/migrant problem at the ports.

Davies Turner and Daly Transport. DTS were big players too.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Grumpy_old_trucker » Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:59 pm

the maoster wrote:Living where I do there are still a few of the old Mann boys around propping up the bars. Some proper stories out of them guys

If memory serves me right the yard was at Heckington, John was a friend of my late brother, met him quite a few times many years ago, the question was always the same “come and work for me”, the answer was always the same, “No John I’m happy where I am”.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Tarmaceater » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:52 pm

I heard that local kids were paid to disrupt foreign hauliers in Morocco, apparently stones and rocks thrown at trucks , red lines cut while moving in slow traffic so you are stranded with no air to move on .
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Mazzer2 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:09 pm

New shipping route opening from UK to Morocco will take 3 days
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Grumpy_old_trucker » Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:36 pm

Mazzer2 wrote:New shipping route opening from UK to Morocco will take 3 days

Not the same outfit that started running a freighter from the UK to La Rochelle years ago?
Can’t remember where it shipped from, could’ve been Hull or Immingham, don’t think it was from the south coast ports.
Didn’t last long if memory serves me right.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Mazzer2 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:11 pm

Grumpy_old_trucker wrote:
Mazzer2 wrote:New shipping route opening from UK to Morocco will take 3 days

Not the same outfit that started running a freighter from the UK to La Rochelle years ago?
Can’t remember where it shipped from, could’ve been Hull or Immingham, don’t think it was from the south coast ports.
Didn’t last long if memory serves me right.


It is being run by United Seaways and sailing from Poole to Tangiers on a weekly basis
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Gidders » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:30 pm

There used to be a ferry from Poole to somewhere in Portugal back in the 80s.All I recall is that apparently it used to roll around a bit judging by the many shades of green on the faces of drivers as they disembarked.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Tarmaceater » Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:09 pm

The freighter from Poole to Portugal went to Porto which was the dock of Leca de Palmeiria next to Matosinhos , but I think it went to unaccompanied trailers only and no drivers and there was a roll on , roll off service to Vigo in Northern Spain which is not far from Porto.
At some time , drivers did accompany their vehicles on the above services.
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Re: UK to Morocco

Postby Tarmaceater » Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:13 pm

A lot of John Mann drivers met and married local girls in Morocco as the rent for flats was cheap and the cost of living , Tony Bradfield had an apartment there and a local lass .So in theory you could have a wife in every port , one in England and a few in Morocco.
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