40mph limit on sc about to be discussed on vine. should be interesting. wonder if they will pick stereotype “angry yorkshire man” to speak on behalf of hgvs and “posh plumstead woman” to represent 4 x 4 drivers held up by lorries.
Juggernaut. Massive. Hurtling. Breakneck speeds.
All will be mentioned at a guess.
Even vine admitted in his link on ken Bruce’s show that he didn’t reslise that the limit on single carriageway for hgv’s was 40mph.
As a car driver it used to infuriate me being stuck at 40 on the A52 eastbound however being a cat C driver I understand why I think it the right speed limit for LGV’s
I don’t understand the ‘speed limits are dangerous’ arguments.
If the lorry (should that be juggernaut?) was doing 50, someone would still want to do 60, but then it’d take them longer to pass due to the truck doing 50.
I agree that some roads deserve a higher limit, A616 for example, but across the board? How many drivers HAVE to do 50 in roadworks because that’s the limit, or on the limiter no matter the weather etc, increasing speed limit would have those same drivers doing the new limit everywhere.
BRAKE suggests that overtaking is dangerous and wants cars to follow us at 40mph 
Even Rutherford is talking crap. I could stop a truck faster than he could stop a Ford Focus
And how about different speed limits for different roads? How would that be less confusing?
How would it be policed, even more cameras?
It is the tipper drivers fault 
Mr ceva driver sounds like a complete RDC loving, union crazy, rulebook ■■■■■■■
Wheel Nut:
It is the tipper drivers fault
I think Mr Ceva Driver is confused. What tipper do you know would be doing less than 50mph on a dc?
I can’t think of any.
damoq:
Wheel Nut:
It is the tipper drivers faultI think Mr Ceva Driver is confused. What tipper do you know would be doing less than 50mph on a dc?
I can’t think of any.
Me. I had the sticker to prove it. Stupid law that I only follow because I feel I give the government too much money already.
Wheel Nut:
[…single carriageway limit…] ‘… How would it be policed…?’
Now then, being ‘…policed…’ is an old fashioned concept outdated by regressive cut-backs, privatisation and the preferred use of agencies using diktats from abroad to manipulate us etc.
Maybe we should accept that our role is to be ‘managed’ by suited, grey men behind camera monitors and beyond, rather than placing any trust in the old fashioned notion of red-blooded Old Plod in a Jag’ 
My answer to your Q is that behaviour on SC’s will be left to deteriorate in the way that much when left to ultra-liberal values/neglect will invariably deteriorate. However, as fogies like us dwindle and become more frail, our successors will undoubtedly be encouraged to be proud and make profit from it.
So to say it as it is, the real police are now busy prioritising the subordination of those worried about Islamophobia and coercing the nation to be PC about things they didn’t grow up with, not niff-naff stuff that affects all of us on SC’s every working day 
After getting nicked for 46mph last December I have kept to the limit in the hope and belief that I might be holding up a copper in his own car on his way home for his tea, or a camera operator or traffic warden.
But on Monday I HAD to get home before 6.30 and was in a hurry, so upped it to 50mph all day, and I must say it felt really fast after 9 months of being a good boy!
I think 40s enough. You dont often hear of workers in other industries complaining because they cant work fast enough!
Regarding the 40 limit on sc’s, it seems that the government logic is that trucks should always be doing 10 mph less that other road users on all types of road. I’ve often wondered why they don’t go the whole hog and make us do 20 in a 30 zone, etc, etc. If the argument that we need to travel slower is to have any grounds, surely when the road has a 40 limit for other vehicles, it would only be safe in a truck to do 30 in their ‘away with the fairies’ World.
Now I’m not saying this is a great idea, just wondering why, when they seem to think we are only safe when doing a lesser speed than other road users, it’s quite safe for us to do the same speed in a accident black-spot or similar?
DoYouMeanMe?:
Regarding the 40 limit on sc’s, it seems that the government logic is that trucks should always be doing 10 mph less that other road users on all types of road. I’ve often wondered why they don’t go the whole hog and make us do 20 in a 30 zone, etc, etc. If the argument that we need to travel slower is to have any grounds, surely when the road has a 40 limit for other vehicles, it would only be safe in a truck to do 30 in their ‘away with the fairies’ World.
Now I’m not saying this is a great idea, just wondering why, when they seem to think we are only safe when doing a lesser speed than other road users, it’s quite safe for us to do the same speed in a accident black-spot or similar?
Be careful what you wish for! They have this system in France 70k/mh for cars, 30 for poids lourd in villages
Was talking about this a coupla weeks ago with another CE friend, and I came up with the idea of raising the limit to fifty on certain good quality A roads with a single carriageway.
It’s simple - on these safe stretches have an orange line painted kerbside, with attendant lollipop signs beginning and ending. Much like the no stopping clearway white line. Bung it in the highway code and its a win-win all round. Less frustration by car drivers = less silly overtaking stunts, trucks run more efficiently and arrive earlier.
Comments please! Ta
Socketset:
Was talking about this a coupla weeks ago with another CE friend, and I came up with the idea of raising the limit to fifty on certain good quality A roads with a single carriageway.It’s simple - on these safe stretches have an orange line painted kerbside, with attendant lollipop signs beginning and ending.
Even easier, Raise the limit to 50mph on main trunk roads, these roads (i think) are distinguished by green road signs.
Socketset:
‘…[R]aising the limit to fifty on certain good quality A road … safe stretches …’
Do you mean ‘…safe…’ as in:
Perfect road surface; no push-bikes; no emerging rabbits at dawn/dusk, no suicidal hedgehogs, no mopeds, no pavements, no pedestrians, no tractors, no texting idiots, no buses, no proper Policing, no proper road laws (only a rubbish highway ‘Code’), no breakdowns, no corners, no noise considerations being simply indicated by a helpful orange stripe to highlight such play-zones for Metro-couple, Corsa-boy & Clio-girl, etc to run to their liking with impunity
Let’s go
waynedl:
I don’t understand the ‘speed limits are dangerous’ arguments.If the lorry (should that be juggernaut?) was doing 50, someone would still want to do 60, but then it’d take them longer to pass due to the truck doing 50.
I agree that some roads deserve a higher limit, A616 for example, but across the board? How many drivers HAVE to do 50 in roadworks because that’s the limit, or on the limiter no matter the weather etc, increasing speed limit would have those same drivers doing the new limit everywhere.
This is the problem, unlike coach drivers we cant be trusted.
kevin0410:
Even easier, Raise the limit to 50mph on main trunk roads, these roads (i think) are distinguished by green road signs.
Just because it’s a main trunk road does not mean it’s safe to do 50 in an HGV. Classic example; A40 from Llandovery to Brecon. I am sure there are many others.
I may have said this before 
But if you worked in a sausage factory and there was a sign on the wall saying “Only make 40 sausages an hour” then why would you want to make 50?