Just heard on 5 Live news that the government are to introduce a plan to charge foreign trucks £2 per day. They say the current system is unfair as foreign trucks do not need to pay anything in the UK. However, UK trucks will also have to pay this charge but will be able to reclaim it back… I’m not going to comment on this just yet, i would like you lot to have a go first 
£2 per day hardly seems worth the bother and will it even cover the admin costs? £2 just seems like a half-arsed effort.
Plus more money the UK haulier has to lay out, how long will it take to claim it back? Or how long before they decide you can no longer claim it back.
Coffeeholic:
£2 per day hardly seems worth the bother and will it even cover the admin costs? £2 just seems like a half-arsed effort.Plus more money the UK haulier has to lay out, how long will it take to claim it back? Or how long before they decide you can no longer claim it back.
Probably some devious plan in which the figure will rise to £200 per day and then when British operators go to claim it back they’ll just say sorry we’ve changed our minds because EU rules won’t allow it. 
Foreign lorries face £10 daily charge on UK roads
A proposal to charge foreign-registered lorries up to £10 a day to drive on the UK’s roads is due to be outlined…
Update
OK,you cant claim it back,as UK Hauler,but the Gov will reduce another tax that you get it back
Forget the proposed £10 a day charge make the buggers buy diesel and put the foreign hauliers on the same footing as our hauliers. Then haulage will be reasonably fair for everyone. The more mileage the foreigners do the more they pay and its collected at the pumps. Leave the British haulage companys out of this daft idea as it will only get messy and end in tears.
BigBear.
BigBear:
Forget the proposed £10 a day charge make the buggers buy diesel and put the foreign hauliers on the same footing as our hauliers. Then haulage will be reasonably fair for everyone. The more mileage the foreigners do the more they pay and its collected at the pumps. Leave the British haulage companys out of this daft idea as it will only get messy and end in tears.
None of that is a legal option unless the UK leaves the EU, and no matter what that is not going to happen.
What other taxes are UK hauliers going to be ‘let off’? It will have to be something more than just the ‘tax disc’ because that would leave most UK hauliers still paying more than today. If you run a truck 5 days a week that will still be over £2500 a year. That’s more than the cost to tax trucks currently, two or three times more in a lot of cases. Many trucks run 6 or 7 days a week so an even bigger deficit. Before this is welcomed I think we need to know exactly what the UK hauliers will be getting ‘let off’ to offset this new road user charge. If this does end up costing UK hauliers more then I wonder where they could make savings to cover it? Fuel, maintenance, insurance? Can’t really make much savings there so that would leave wages as being the easiest target.
Unless the cost of this new charge is fully recoverable by reduction in other things then I think it’s best not get too excited about sticking it to Johnny Foreigner as it could come back to bite us on the arse as we end up paying for the pleasure of taxing the foreigners.
Coffeeholic:
BigBear:
Forget the proposed £10 a day charge make the buggers buy diesel and put the foreign hauliers on the same footing as our hauliers. Then haulage will be reasonably fair for everyone. The more mileage the foreigners do the more they pay and its collected at the pumps. Leave the British haulage companys out of this daft idea as it will only get messy and end in tears.None of that is a legal option unless the UK leaves the EU, and no matter what that is not going to happen.
So how can it be legal for the rest of Europe to charge lorries from the UK?
Treat European hauliers the same as UK and charge them Road Tax and fuel duty, also charge them UK fuel duty for anything over 100l in the tank when they arrive at our shores!
Martin:
Coffeeholic:
BigBear:
Forget the proposed £10 a day charge make the buggers buy diesel and put the foreign hauliers on the same footing as our hauliers. Then haulage will be reasonably fair for everyone. The more mileage the foreigners do the more they pay and its collected at the pumps. Leave the British haulage companys out of this daft idea as it will only get messy and end in tears.None of that is a legal option unless the UK leaves the EU, and no matter what that is not going to happen.
So how can it be legal for the rest of Europe to charge lorries from the UK?
Because any charge, be it distance or daily based, is also charged to their own trucks and leaving the UK hauliers out of this new scheme isn’t legal as long as we are in the EU and leaving the EU isn’t going to happen any time soon, if ever. In the above BigBear was saying forget the £10 per day charge which all trucks, including UK, would pay and instead limit the diesel they could bring in forcing them to buy it here, and that also isn’t legal. A distance charge, instead of a daily charge, could be brought in so that the more miles they do the more they pay but again it would have to be applied to UK trucks as well, and that’s going to be way more of a cost to bear. When Germany had a daily user charge it would have cost you €8.00 to do a days driving there. However, with the change to a distance based charge the same day can now cost you well over €100.00, and that is the same for German and foreign, including UK, trucks.
Martin:
Treat European hauliers the same as UK and charge them Road Tax and fuel duty, also charge them UK fuel duty for anything over 100l in the tank when they arrive at our shores!
The plan is to charge them a road user charge, or tax, but you cannot charge them a fuel duty or limit the amount that can be brought in. Limiting fuel into a country to 200 or 300 litres, as it used to be for countries such as France and Germany, finished in 1992.
You could make a Law that every vehicle driven in UK musst have the Steering Wheel on the right Site,and every driver driving in UK musst have a minimum of 2 Years driving experience in driving on the Left site.
I am more worried by how long it will take to implement any system. It would be too simple for a truck to buy the tax at the passport control. It would have to be done online by the hauliers and then enforced by ANPR cameras IMO.
WDYT?
Foreign truckers
to pay £10 a day
VICTORY for hauliers furious at charges in Europe while European drivers pay nothing for the upkeep of our roads
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Can anyone throw some light on this government proposal which was on TV this morning. I sincerly hope it would not stand a chance of going through. Who pays? the driver as usual, or would this be passed on to the customer. Bang goes this years’pay deal.
skoowif:
Can anyone throw some light on this government proposal which was on TV this morning. I sincerly hope it would not stand a chance of going through. Who pays? the driver as usual, or would this be passed on to the customer. Bang goes this years’pay deal.
No idea what ya talking about, soz 
Why not make British vehicles exempt from paying tolls on European mainland roads instead? My system would be easier to implement.
skoowif:
Can anyone throw some light on this government proposal which was on TV this morning. I sincerly hope it would not stand a chance of going through. Who pays? the driver as usual, or would this be passed on to the customer. Bang goes this years’pay deal.
The story you’re referring to is “Foreign lorries face £10 daily charge on UK roads”.
The government are proposing to charge foreign trucks £10 per day to run on UK roads but because they can’t discriminate against foreign trucks they propose to also charge UK hauliers and then reimburse them.
edit: Just noticed it’s being discussed here 
Actually, you can limit the amount that you bring in, somebody on here will help me out with this one, but there are some regs that only allow you to have a certain amount of fuel when you board a ship. Not sure what is is though. If they said £10 then I may have mis-quoted on the £2 (only heard the story once and turned radio up as I realised what they were talking about). No matter what happens, they should be charged and NOT the UK trucks, never mind reimbursing the cost. We have to pay for a tax disc when we get over there, they should do the same over here
tachograph:
skoowif:
Can anyone throw some light on this government proposal which was on TV this morning. I sincerly hope it would not stand a chance of going through. Who pays? the driver as usual, or would this be passed on to the customer. Bang goes this years’pay deal.The story you’re referring to is “Foreign lorries face £10 daily charge on UK roads”.
The government are proposing to charge foreign trucks £10 per day to run on UK roads but because they can’t discriminate against foreign trucks they propose to also charge UK hauliers and then reimburse them.
Long overdue. £10 a day sounds about right, providing it is enforced as well as the congestion charge. Dunno why they can’t just apply it to foreign trucks using the same number plate recognition technology?
They said the congestion charge would be unworkable, and that worked so why not this one? Why can’t foreign trucks be discriminated against? UK hauliers paid 4 figures for a tax disk, foreigners pay jack ■■■■ right? Seems they’re ripe for some “discrimination” just to level the playing field!
BigBear:
Forget the proposed £10 a day charge make the buggers buy diesel and put the foreign hauliers on the same footing as our hauliers. Then haulage will be reasonably fair for everyone. The more mileage the foreigners do the more they pay and its collected at the pumps. Leave the British haulage companys out of this daft idea as it will only get messy and end in tears.BigBear.
Yeh, double the price of derv at the pumps, and then make it 100% reclaimable for any UK citizen against their paid taxes.
If you don’t pay tax, don’t live in the uk, or can’t be arsed to claim then the full whack stands, and as it is at the pumps, you dont pay = you don’t move!
If I typed something like this on “Daily Mail” I’d get redded to oblivion by the middle-englander armies of 4x4 drivers out there!
tachograph:
skoowif:
Can anyone throw some light on this government proposal which was on TV this morning. I sincerly hope it would not stand a chance of going through. Who pays? the driver as usual, or would this be passed on to the customer. Bang goes this years’pay deal.The story you’re referring to is “Foreign lorries face £10 daily charge on UK roads”.
The government are proposing to charge foreign trucks £10 per day to run on UK roads but because they can’t discriminate against foreign trucks they propose to also charge UK hauliers and then reimburse them.
edit: Just noticed it’s being discussed here
Of course, thanks.