This months T&D

theres alot of out of focus photos in it, :smiling_imp: im glad theres some decent shots of andrew biltons magnum in the pics forum :laughing:i thought my eyes had gone funny then i saw a bit of card stuck to the front of the mag with some red n blue plastic stuck in it i looked thru em and all didnt become clear. :laughing:
im sorry but 3d photography in a mag its not big and its not clever :unamused: the 3d glasses well lets just say they dont work :unamused: come on lads im not happy, normally i look at the photos then read it.ive had to read it first this month cuz i cant look at the bloody photos.all i can say is leave the 3d to sky tv.
ps will there be a reprint with proper photos,cuz i know the bloke that took em can take a photo or 2 cuz ive seen his webpage
thanks,kind regards, disgruntled and a little confused T&D buyer

Those things simply do not work for me.

Ruined a good read i think one or two pics would have been enough :neutral_face:

Carl:
theres alot of out of focus photos in it, :smiling_imp: im glad theres some decent shots of andrew biltons magnum in the pics forum :laughing:i thought my eyes had gone funny then i saw a bit of card stuck to the front of the mag with some red n blue plastic stuck in it i looked thru em and all didnt become clear. :laughing:
im sorry but 3d photography in a mag its not big and its not clever :unamused: the 3d glasses well lets just say they dont work :unamused: come on lads im not happy, normally i look at the photos then read it.ive had to read it first this month cuz i cant look at the bloody photos.all i can say is leave the 3d to sky tv.
ps will there be a reprint with proper photos,cuz i know the bloke that took em can take a photo or 2 cuz ive seen his webpage
thanks,kind regards, disgruntled and a little confused T&D buyer

T&D should be scrapped. Awful magazine.

thought you might enjoy seeing fiona’s ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  in 3D! :wink:

truckerjon:
thought you might enjoy seeing fiona’s ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  in 3D! :wink:

no i would enjoy seeing her ā– ā– ā– ā–  in the flesh not a magazine. :wink: :bulb: :bulb: :bulb:

Rob K:
T&D should be scrapped. Awful magazine.

In fairness, they face the same problem as Channel 5, there is just nothing interesting to write about any more. A 100 mile journey with some cream cakes is just not as exciting as the Long Distance Diaries of blokes doing the run to Saudi, which is what they used to write about 25 years ago.

Harry Monk:
In fairness, they face the same problem as Channel 5, there is just nothing interesting to write about any more. A 100 mile journey with some cream cakes is just not as exciting as the Long Distance Diaries of blokes doing the run to Saudi, which is what they used to write about 25 years ago.

We could do long distance diaries again, but there is one deciding factor that stops it …
simply expense, if we doubled the cover price then we could do a lot of things, but would you buy it at that price?

the price of simply printing and distributing the magazine has risen dramatically over the last few years, way above the proportianate cost , but that cost has not been passed on to you, we have tried to absorb as much as we can, but that does mean the most expensive parts have had to beome less frequent

All the magazines are not a charity, they are a business, I hope you believe me when I say that we are trying so very hard to give content, keep the cover price as low as we can, and still make a profit( be it a thin one).

It no secret that advertising in the magazines subsidises the cover price, it is also no secret that all major advertising spenders over the last two-three years have cut back on the advertisng budgets… that hurts, but we have tried as hard as we can not to pass that loss of revenue on to to the people who buy the magazines.

The 3D issue was something different, it raised interest from advertisers and as far as we know is a first in our field. If we dont get the revenue in from advertisers there is only two ways to go, raise the cover price, or fold…

Rikki-UK:

Harry Monk:
In fairness, they face the same problem as Channel 5, there is just nothing interesting to write about any more. A 100 mile journey with some cream cakes is just not as exciting as the Long Distance Diaries of blokes doing the run to Saudi, which is what they used to write about 25 years ago.

We could do long distance diaries again, but there is one deciding factor that stops it …
simply expense, if we doubled the cover price then we could do a lot of things, but would you buy it at that price?

I can’t see how Long Distance Diaries would double the cost of T&D, most used to be written by the drivers themselves for a page rate of, IIRC, Ā£25 a page.

Personally, I’m not interested in the loadspace of a Vauxhall Astra van, or the latest Waylon Jennings album and so I haven’t bought T&D for years.

This is ā€œcustomer feedbackā€, take it or leave it :wink:

If you can produce legible a monthly LDD with images suitable for print and are willing to do it for £25 per page. then I am sure Will will take your hand off ( and probably have your babies)

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I think the pictures came out well. it took me a few times of trying before they became clear, but the pic on page 11 of the bridge is great! the smaller pictures are easier to see in 3D. try putting the magazine on a flat surface rather than juggling it on your knees.
As for more diaries, what about some of the VDB drivers contributing stories about thier journeys around Europe?

Harry Monk:
This is ā€œcustomer feedbackā€, take it or leave it :wink:

Classsic ! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Rikki-UK:
If you can produce legible a monthly LDD with images suitable for print and are willing to do it for £25 per page. then I am sure Will will take your hand off ( and probably have your babies)

Do you want me to write an article from driving on Hebrides? I did it for the Polish trucker’s online mag for much less than 25… And I got load of good quality pictures…

Only problem will be that it will be nearly 3 years old :slight_smile:

Rikki-UK:
If you can produce legible a monthly LDD with images suitable for print and are willing to do it for £25 per page. then I am sure Will will take your hand off ( and probably have your babies)

I don’t do it any more but there are plenty of TruckNet members who post their diaries on here for free, perhaps Will could cull their posts for publication for those drivers- the vast majority- who do not have the internet…

I am sure the £25 page rate is outdated now, but if any active Euro-trucker wants to go 50/50 with me and can take some half-decent photos, I will type up their diary into an instantly publishable form and give Truck & Driver the best four pages they have published for a decade.

I don’t do it any more but there are plenty of TruckNet members who post their diaries on here for free, perhaps Will could cull their posts for publication for those drivers

We could and there are many great posts on here and diaries, and as part of the T&C’s of using this website we do reserve the right to reuse, but we dont on the whole, we take comments and opinion but as far as articles go we dont lift them from here… we would much prefer if they submitted directly so we can credit the author. also while the forums are a valuable source of information and feedback the magazines do not want to leech of the community side of our titles.

Rikki-UK:
If you can produce legible a monthly LDD with images suitable for print and are willing to do it for £25 per page. then I am sure Will will take your hand off ( and probably have your babies)

Are there some digits missing here? If not, then you should be ashamed of yourself. You can get £25 for sending in a 2 line joke to one of the weekly womens mags like Chat or Take-A-Break.

Funny, it was only last month you were on bragging about how good the T&D sales figures actually are and the vast amounts of profit it was making. But yet here you are basically telling us it’s on its last legs and you can only afford to pay pennies for content. :unamused:

Rikki-UK:
We could and there are many great posts on here and diaries, and as part of the T&C’s of using this website we do reserve the right to reuse, but we dont on the whole, we take comments and opinion but as far as articles go we dont lift them from here… we would much prefer if they submitted directly so we can credit the author. also while the forums are a valuable source of information and feedback the magazines do not want to leech of the community side of our titles.

I’m already in discussion with a TruckNet member who still does long-haul European work but does not have perfect command of English, I have offered to type up his diaries and submit them to T&D in an instantly publishable form complete with edited photographs for a 50/50 split, I will await his reply!

I have been reading T&D and Trucking for years,and living in Ireland means quiet a bit dearer :frowning: I’m afraid to say Trucking is streets ahead of T&D,If there was descent content I would be prepared to pay more would you? :arrow_right:

scaniaireland:
I have been reading T&D and Trucking for years,and living in Ireland means quiet a bit dearer :frowning: I’m afraid to say Trucking is streets ahead of T&D,If there was descent content I would be prepared to pay more would you? :arrow_right:

Who was the editor of Trucking and where is he now? He’d could probably turn T&D into a decent mag. The current editor would be better off doing children’s colouring books from what I’ve seen. :unamused:

Rob K:
Are there some digits missing here? If not, then you should be ashamed of yourself. You can get £25 for sending in a 2 line joke to one of the weekly womens mags like Chat or Take-A-Break.

Funny, it was only last month you were on bragging about how good the T&D sales figures actually are and the vast amounts of profit it was making. But yet here you are basically telling us it’s on its last legs and you can only afford to pay pennies for content. :unamused:

Rob, T&D is still the best selling magazine, and the Road Transport Group does make a profit in what is very difficult times, but lets not be niave here or try to make petty points.

Times are hard, advertising revenues are well down, fact of life, another fact of life is that costs have risen, print costs alone have risen far beyond inflation. Now you tell us your a business man, how do you control those rising costs, and declining advertising subsidies when you know there is a ceiling on what what the customers will pay for the product. If you have any understanding about how business works you will understand that in tough times you try to innovative. Only time will tell wether the 3D issue on over the counter sales works, but I am sure you will see that the advertisers have taken the concept on board and gone with it. and as thet subsidise the cover price, the price you pay is that a bad thing.

I did not bring up the Ā£25 thing… someone else did… and that is very long way below what any freelancer would expect, which is why i said if anyone is seriously prepared to do a four page article with print grade photos we would take their hand off… for me as a freelancer for various magazines Ā£25 would not get you a paragraph and certainly not an image.

In the same way that poeple here drive trucks to pay their bills, we produce magazines and websites , we do that because we also have families and mortagages to pay… yes we do have a passion for the industry as most here do. but we dont decry anyone makng a living driving a truck and dont see why we should have to defend having a job writing about the industry or running a website